UFC 211 - Stipe vs JDS II - Dallas

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That was in response to your suggestion that Andrade dominated hill. Hill certainly lost a clear decision but it seems disingenuous to claim she was "dominated". She certainly had her moments in that fight and was never in any real danger of being finished.

She got dominated. I had Andrade dec and was shitting myself the whole fight i was amazed Hill survived.
 
couple value plays i really like
cejudo by decision -117 and jj by dec +153

im suprised to see so many on andrade. If she doesnt get the early knockout i cant see how she keeps pace with jj and wins a decision. Not saying i would be shocked if jj gets caught although shes been rocked she still hasnt been put away. The over 3.5 at -170 is another i really like.

also love the overs on yair edgar and cejudo pettis.

Andrade threw 342 strikes over 3 rounds against Hill and looked fine - 322 were sig strikes and looked fine. I think if you are relying on Andrade gassing you're in for a bad night.
 
JDS Stipe pick 'em? I think JDS won the first fight but one fight has clearly regressed while another has improved. JDS looked great against Rothwell but let's be honest stylistically it was a perfect matchup for JDS.
 
That was in response to your suggestion that Andrade dominated hill. Hill certainly lost a clear decision but it seems disingenuous to claim she was "dominated". She certainly had her moments in that fight and was never in any real danger of being finished.
What? Hill got absolutely mauled.
 
Andrade threw 342 strikes over 3 rounds against Hill and looked fine - 322 were sig strikes and looked fine. I think if you are relying on Andrade gassing you're in for a bad night.
On paper that's correct. The problem is, that Joanna is an expert in mind fuck and great at making opponets hate her. Andrande is no Gadelha, but she might be one of those pround and emotional Brazilian fighters, who are a very potential targets for mind games to fight angry, overextend and get countered and gassed. I have money on Andrande, but if it looks like Joanna is getting under Andrande's skin badly, I'm going to try to hedge it deep.
 
What do people think about;

Masvidal by KO or Maia by Sub @ 2.00
Frankie by dec or Yair by kO @ 1.67
Cejudo over Pettis @ 1.35
Joanna vs Andrade @ 1.6

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Just Watched Dos Santos last 3 fights, need to watch Miocic last 3/4 fights, but if hes improved like i think he has his odds are mighty tempting (1.9 Paddypower/Betfair)
 
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Just Watched Dos Santos last 3 fights, need to watch Miocic last 3/4 fights, but if hes improved like i think he has his odds are mighty tempting (1.9 Paddypower/Betfair)
You're already going into your tape study knowing who you want to bet on, so you might as well place your bet now.
 
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Andrade threw 342 strikes over 3 rounds against Hill and looked fine - 322 were sig strikes and looked fine. I think if you are relying on Andrade gassing you're in for a bad night.

im not saying it wont be a close fight and I understand why some are taking Andrade inside the distance based on the value but jj has been so dominant and if this goes to decision more often than not she wins.
 
im not saying it wont be a close fight and I understand why some are taking Andrade inside the distance based on the value but jj has been so dominant and if this goes to decision more often than not she wins.

She has been dominant but we've seen cracks in the armour. Claudia beat her first time that was a bad decision, and she was two rounds down in the rematch until she gassed. She was also rocked in the Claudia rematch and against KK. She's not IMO Mighty Mouse she is beatable and Andrade is going to pose questions no one has asked of her. If she can keep that Pitbull off her for five rounds fair play. I don't think she can. Albeit i've only watched Andrade tape so far JJ is next so my mind could change.
 
You're already going into your tape study knowing who you want to bet on, so you might as well place your bet now.

Disagree with this. I normally have a lean before tape, sometimes what I think is a heavy lean, but i've changed my mind a number of times after tape. For instance at the moment i am big on Andrade against JJ, but i will pull the plug if i feel my gut was off after watching tape. I approach tape with a very open mind.
 
Disagree with this. I normally have a lean before tape, sometimes what I think is a heavy lean, but i've changed my mind a number of times after tape. For instance at the moment i am big on Andrade against JJ, but i will pull the plug if i feel my gut was off after watching tape. I approach tape with a very open mind.

Joanna Violence and JDS gonna make fools bleed come UFC211. Yáll can talk all you want but the heat is on its way.
 
^^ I don't really buy the JJ has a bad chin argument. I mean this is fighting you are going to get rocked sometimes. Its not like she got put to sleep. JJ completely dominated KK the whole fight and sure she got caught towards the end but bounced back and won the fight. Similar to what we saw Saturday, Cub owned the majority of the fight and got caught toward the end. This is fighting its gonna happen but I don't think Cub has a bad chin now...

Honestly at this weight class I am not that concerned about a clean ko. It is more a matter of how you react when you get rocked and in JJ's case she always does a good job of recovering and staying in the game.
 

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this guy is such a loser. His podcasts are now 18 minutes long with the first 5 minutes of him rambling on about his insane winning percentage and how he never loses. Then he babbles for the remaining 15 minutes or so most of the time contradicting his pick by saying he can see how the other guy can win also
 
^^ I don't really buy the JJ has a bad chin argument. I mean this is fighting you are going to get rocked sometimes. Its not like she got put to sleep. JJ completely dominated KK the whole fight and sure she got caught towards the end but bounced back and won the fight. Similar to what we saw Saturday, Cub owned the majority of the fight and got caught toward the end. This is fighting its gonna happen but I don't think Cub has a bad chin now...

Honestly at this weight class I am not that concerned about a clean ko. It is more a matter of how you react when you get rocked and in JJ's case she always does a good job of recovering and staying in the game.

I agree especially when she has fought 15 rounds in the last 3 fights you are bound to get rocked eventually with the majority of the fight being standup. The esparza fight in 13 was close but since then she has won unaminous deciisons in 3 of the last 4 fights with the other fight being a knockout of penne.
 
Being hit by KK and Claudia is completely different to Andrade smashing you.

Anyhow, i don't think Andrade has to win by ko, she can win a decision.
 
I agree especially when she has fought 15 rounds in the last 3 fights you are bound to get rocked eventually with the majority of the fight being standup. The esparza fight in 13 was close but since then she has won unaminous deciisons in 3 of the last 4 fights with the other fight being a knockout of penne.

I'm assuming you're referring to the Gadelha fight in 2014? The Esparza fight was in 2015 and JJ absolutely smashed her.

I was hoping Andrade would be a bigger underdog here, but I guess that was wishful thinking. Like Sham's been saying, JJ hasn't fought anyone like Jessica before. I expect JJ to get tagged at some point and the question for me is can she recover like she has in the past.
 
Being hit by KK and Claudia is completely different to Andrade smashing you.

Anyhow, i don't think Andrade has to win by ko, she can win a decision.

Agree, I wouldn't be shocked if Andrade wins by decision, but my gut says that she will win by submission
 
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