Crime Tyre Nichols video to be released soon. 5 Memphis cops fired and charged with murder for his death

[WklySportsMemes]

You don't think police presence changes anything? I think it does.

Even if it does why does law enforcement choose to make themselves less visible with more & more covert vehicles, continously hiding for traffic enforcement, & so much of the budget going to undercover, task force, sting operations????

Have you seen all the new and newer regular patrol car/truck designs? They are intentional urban camouflage with ultra low profile lights and accessories. Mostly darker greys , bluish or black in color with very little low visibility markings.

That screams more we want to collect revenue and catch crimes in the act vs preventing crime with a visible presence.

 

[nhbbear]

Because at least PA isn't a state you can just ID passengers unless they are being suspected of a crime. And being in a high crime area doesn't cut it.

And if WV

https://www.moorelawfirmwv.com/blog/2021/june/fourth-circuit-issues-ruling-on-failure-to-ident/



Yes but I70 40 miles out of Pittsburgh is roughly the PA/WV border...

The section of WV that runs between PA and Ohio is like 7 miles. Interesting that the law changed in WV in 2021

 

[nhbbear]

cops help prevent crime by not being everywhere..... you know because if they arent there they cant shoot or beat people or steal their drugs or money. but you do have one good point... much needed education wont help cops until the culture has more humanity than insects do and presently that is not the case.

the problem we have are there are a LOT of bad cops that abuse people bully people and break the law. then you have the larger majority who don't do anything like that but who keep silent out of tacit agreement or cowardice. so basically nearly all cops are terrible people by commission or omission with exceptions so few that its negligible.

its a cultural problem primarily.

Yeah, ok

 

[mkess101]

cops help prevent crime by not being everywhere..... you know because if they arent there they cant shoot or beat people or steal their drugs or money. but you do have one good point... much needed education wont help cops until the culture has more humanity than insects do and presently that is not the case.

the problem we have are there are a LOT of bad cops that abuse people bully people and break the law. then you have the larger majority who don't do anything like that but who keep silent out of tacit agreement or cowardice. so basically nearly all cops are terrible people by commission or omission with exceptions so few that its negligible.

its a cultural problem primarily.

And oddly, in Minneapolis when the city council voted to defund the police and patrols of certain areas were reduced, it barely took any time at all before those same people were panicked and clamoring for those cops to please get back out there and resume "shooting and beating people and stealing their drugs and money".

So weird!!

 

[IamStryker]

cops don’t prevent crime. education, legal financial opportunity, and mental health/addiction support do. see: every other country but america.

Whoever said they did those things? They probably don't prevent much crime but they are still needed to stop crimes and arrest the people responsible. This is still 100% needed.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

The section of WV that runs between PA and Ohio is like 7 miles. Interesting that the law changed in WV in 2021

Not sure that the law actually changed, as opposed to the court determining their understanding of the law? Would have to look more into it.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

And oddly, in Minneapolis when the city council voted to defund the police and patrols of certain areas were reduced, it barely took any time at all before those same people were panicked and clamoring for those cops to please get back out there and resume "shooting and beating people and stealing their drugs and money".

So weird!!

I am not at all making the case that police don't reduce crime just FYI.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yeah, ok

It really is just a sick cultural problem made up of the largely uneducated in need of major reform.

But the cultural problem runs so deep it will never happen from within... a more superior culture is going to have to impose itself from the outside.

 

[IamStryker]

The boys in blue are always fighting a Jean Claude Van Damme or Jeff Speakman

Lol what a childish take. Does it not occur to people that a gun is always involved? Obviously physically attacking a police officer has to be regarded as a potentially lethal attack because the officers gun can easily be used against him.

 

[IamStryker]

cops help prevent crime by not being everywhere..... you know because if they arent there they cant shoot or beat people or steal their drugs or money. but you do have one good point... much needed education wont help cops until the culture has more humanity than insects do and presently that is not the case.

the problem we have are there are a LOT of bad cops that abuse people bully people and break the law. then you have the larger majority who don't do anything like that but who keep silent out of tacit agreement or cowardice. so basically nearly all cops are terrible people by commission or omission with exceptions so few that its negligible.

its a cultural problem primarily.

Yeah the cultural problem is all on cops. There is no cultural problem with crime right?

 

[mkess101]

I am not at all making the case that police don't reduce crime just FYI.

Okay...did I misread your intent on the post I quoted then?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Okay...did I misread your intent on the post I quoted then?

No you did not misread... my statement is 100% true but it's also true that police reduced crime both are true.


I have first-hand experience because my cousin caught his fellow cops dealing drugs after stealing them from dealers and when he turned them in he himself was blackballed instead of those dirty cops.... the culture is rotten to the very core. There is a deep rooted cultural problem with policing. Police departments are filled with criminals and bullies and the cowards who don't report them.

And police presence on the streets also reduces crime... we just need less scumbag type of cops with way more education doing a much better job from a more educated place.

But a deep cultural shift like that is not going to happen from within it's going to have to be imposed from the outside.

 

[spamking]

You're the biggest race baiter in the thread currently to be honest.

That's cute. I'm honored that you'd give me so much credit for something I didn't do.

This is what detractors like you do. You make all these sidebar arguments and fake outrage about the real outrage to distract from the topic at hand. The truth about the topic and race issues seems to trigger you.

What exactly am I detracting from? Who's truth? Your truth? You're using the handful of comments I've made about Ben Crump and the stupidity of blaming white supremacy for black officers beating and killing another black man as some evidence that race issues bother me?

Seriously?

You're unraveling and killing any point you made with your goofball behavior.

I tend to get irritated when people twist what I've said to fit their own needs. YOU responded to me first here dude. Next time keep scrolling.

Here is some perspective for you.
Other people are "crying & whining " about the state sponsored torture and execution of a fellow American citizen.

See . . . here you go again. I haven't said anyone is crying or whining about Tyre Nichols death. You know that.
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You're "crying & whining" about Ben Crump & the family having strong legal representation during probably the roughest scariest time in their life.

You're free to whine about what I've said, but at least get it right. I have no issue with a family having legal representation.

Now go ahead and spam some effeminine stale decade old memes because your feelings are hurt. I'll wait for you to comply.

You sound bothered . . . are you bothered? I anxiously await your incorrect take on another one of my posts.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yeah the cultural problem is all on cops. There is no cultural problem with crime right?

This post does not address my position

 

[IamStryker]

This post does not address my position

Ok but your position seems very one sided.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Ok but your position seems very one sided.

No it just on topic..... murder by cops

 

[mkess101]

No you did not misread... my statement is 100% true but it's also true that police reduced crime both are true.


I have first-hand experience because my cousin caught his fellow cops dealing drugs after stealing them from dealers and when he turned them in he himself was blackballed instead of those dirty cops.... the culture is rotten to the very core. There is a deep rooted cultural problem with policing. Police departments are filled with criminals and bullies and the cowards who don't report them.

And police presence on the streets also reduces crime... we just need less scumbag type of cops with way more education doing a much better job from a more educated place.

But a deep cultural shift like that is not going to happen from within it's going to have to be imposed from the outside.

I don't want to just disregard your anecdotal evidence completely but I know a ton of cops and what you're claiming to be the norm isn't at all that way in the departments where I know guys. Not saying it doesn't happen, it absolutely does. And we've had news stories here of dirty cops. But they are the exception and not the rule from my experience.

I guess we all see the world through different eyes and are shaped by our own experiences.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I don't want to just disregard your anecdotal evidence completely but I know a ton of cops and what you're claiming to be the norm isn't at all that way in the departments where I know guys. Not saying it doesn't happen, it absolutely does. And we've had news stories here of dirty cops. But they are the exception and not the rule from my experience.

I guess we all see the world through different eyes and are shaped by our own experiences.

I really don't think you would know if that was the case it's not like they would advertise that kind of thing... And the truth is I've told a whole bunch of cops online that my cousin had this happen to him and not a single cop believed it and that's just what you face if you go up against the deep rooted cultural problem of corruption in policing. You get stonewalled and ostracized.

Most cops are bad people..... there's the percentage that are criminals and thugs and abuse their power and then there's all the cowards who don't report them (don't believe it) and dont something about it and then there's the people in leadership whose role it is to lead who are cowardly or corrupt or stupid themselves and do nothing.

Policing needs a babysitter. It will never change if the problem is addressed from within.

 

[IamStryker]

No it just on topic..... murder by cops

So we can only discuss cops being the problem?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

So we can only discuss cops being the problem?

You were criticizing me for speaking on topic that's the problem you can do whatever you want just don't expect me to be off topic. This thread is about five cops who brutally murdered a person. This threat is about police brutality and corruption.