Crime Tyre Nichols video to be released soon. 5 Memphis cops fired and charged with murder for his death

No worries....
I think the presenters point about how the Trooper immediately felt the need to deny or defend not having Tik Tok over defending the racial accusations backed by data says a lot about that Trooper. Not like she was a random Black lady just upset about getting a ticket playing the race card.
So by questionable , do you mean it deserves the call-out, additional suspension, or some follow up to make sure it didn't involve targeting or profiling? Kind of similar how you said you approach suspicious vehicles?

It deserves some attention, but it is young turks, so I don’t trust them to do that but his dept who has access to the reasons for the stops and tickets.
What I found interesting about that story was the part about blacks being stopped less
At night. I don’t have too much to say about that other than there are ways to tell the race of a driver on a traffic stop. Maybe the officer knows the car and driver to be suspended? Maybe a purple caddy with gold rims could be vehicular profiling (more on that in a min). Maybe the officer is watching the car? My point is that no officer I ever worked with would simply say “see black driver, stop same.” I think it has more to do with cops working high crime/more black areas being more aggressive with proactive policing and that is a by-product of that.

As for the vehicular profiling. Give me your opinion. We responded to a burglary in progress. A woman came downstairs in an affluent area and observed a couple of black males in her apartment. As we arrived, we observed the same guys running between houses and gave chase but lost him. So I began to check vehicles in the neighborhood and after ruling out the nicer ones and ones that came back to that neighborhood , I found a beat-up Lexus with dark tinted windows with the seat all the way back. Blunt innards and empty baggies everywhere. So I ran the plates and got a name. We pulled up his pic and did a line up to show her and she picked out the registered owner of the vehicle. We got a conviction and solved other burglaries in the area.

Now, my question for you is do you think that was wrong, or possibly good police work?
 
It deserves some attention, but it is young turks, so I don’t trust them to do that but his dept who has access to the reasons for the stops and tickets.
What I found interesting about that story was the part about blacks being stopped less
At night. I don’t have too much to say about that other than there are ways to tell the race of a driver on a traffic stop. Maybe the officer knows the car and driver to be suspended? Maybe a purple caddy with gold rims could be vehicular profiling (more on that in a min). Maybe the officer is watching the car? My point is that no officer I ever worked with would simply say “see black driver, stop same.” I think it has more to do with cops working high crime/more black areas being more aggressive with proactive policing and that is a by-product of that.

As for the vehicular profiling. Give me your opinion. We responded to a burglary in progress. A woman came downstairs in an affluent area and observed a couple of black males in her apartment. As we arrived, we observed the same guys running between houses and gave chase but lost him. So I began to check vehicles in the neighborhood and after ruling out the nicer ones and ones that came back to that neighborhood , I found a beat-up Lexus with dark tinted windows with the seat all the way back. Blunt innards and empty baggies everywhere. So I ran the plates and got a name. We pulled up his pic and did a line up to show her and she picked out the registered owner of the vehicle. We got a conviction and solved other burglaries in the area.

Now, my question for you is do you think that was wrong, or possibly good police work?
Young Turks do some great work and they do some horrible hatchet jobs that appeal to their base. No different than any online leaning op-ed news source. Same coin different side.
I only sent that link because it contained the stop in question. I wasn't calling for TYT to be the judge on this. I was getting at a more formal investigation internally or through oversight from another legal structure.
It would be great if we could trust LEAs to be their own watchdogs however its current state it clearly shows they need watchdog groups and public outrage to keep them honest.
Every area is not "a black neighborhood " every cop accused of this is not strictly working in "black areas." So I'm sure that can be an answer for some of it, but its not the answer for all of it.

Also, just because your fellow officers don't introduce themselves as "Hi, I'm Bob the racist " doesn't mean some of them aren't. They also aren't really going to tell a self proclaimed good cop, " hey I shakedown drug dealers. I rape prostitutes. I also steal time." That seems unrealistic. I'll even argue many people who I consider racist have an unconscious bias & may not realize it or are in denial about it. Keep in mind based off perspective and life experience our definitions of "racial & racism" are probably vastly different.

For your example: If there was a confirmed burglary in progress and the witness was credible and identified Black males as the suspects. I don't think there is a racial component to that.
Then, if you noticed an out of place vehicle in the vicinity with drug paraphernalia in it & ran the tags to get the I.D. again no racial component in that. The tags were out of the area, there was drug paraphernalia in the car, owner matched the description of the witness. Just happened to be Black.
Thats different than lets pull over or run the plates 4 the purple Caddy with Gold wheels just because.
Most Blacks I know with nice car & nice things obtained them through their jobs or legal business. Myself included. I have been collecting muscle cars & sports cars since before I could drive. So I got unjustly profiled a lot.
 
Young Turks do some great work and they do some horrible hatchet jobs that appeal to their base. No different than any online leaning op-ed news source. Same coin different side.
I only sent that link because it contained the stop in question. I wasn't calling for TYT to be the judge on this. I was getting at a more formal investigation internally or through oversight from another legal structure.
It would be great if we could trust LEAs to be their own watchdogs however its current state it clearly shows they need watchdog groups and public outrage to keep them honest.
Every area is not "a black neighborhood " every cop accused of this is not strictly working in "black areas." So I'm sure that can be an answer for some of it, but its not the answer for all of it.

Also, just because your fellow officers don't introduce themselves as "Hi, I'm Bob the racist " doesn't mean some of them aren't. They also aren't really going to tell a self proclaimed good cop, " hey I shakedown drug dealers. I rape prostitutes. I also steal time." That seems unrealistic. I'll even argue many people who I consider racist have an unconscious bias & may not realize it or are in denial about it. Keep in mind based off perspective and life experience our definitions of "racial & racism" are probably vastly different.

For your example: If there was a confirmed burglary in progress and the witness was credible and identified Black males as the suspects. I don't think there is a racial component to that.
Then, if you noticed an out of place vehicle in the vicinity with drug paraphernalia in it & ran the tags to get the I.D. again no racial component in that. The tags were out of the area, there was drug paraphernalia in the car, owner matched the description of the witness. Just happened to be Black.
Thats different than lets pull over or run the plates 4 the purple Caddy with Gold wheels just because.
Most Blacks I know with nice car & nice things obtained them through their jobs or legal business. Myself included. I have been collecting muscle cars & sports cars since before I could drive. So I got unjustly profiled a lot.

Fair enough. Muscle cars being profiled? How so? Checking you for a mullet? I am not a fan of any news shows, but especially tyt.
 
Fair enough. Muscle cars being profiled? How so? Checking you for a mullet? I am not a fan of any news shows, but especially tyt.
Consistently being pulled over and asking how I got said car for being so "young." Even had a serious ticket thrown out once when I got my 1st new Corvette in my early twenties. Despite them running the tags and verifying it was mine, after multiple officers told me I shouldn't be learning on somebody's car....They still wrote the ticket as if the car wasn't mine. The magistrate was PISSED. Threw the ticket out & apologized . He couldn't believe that they still were using verbiage on the ticket and in the report that mentioned the car not being mine.

TYT is no different than others. They are way too far left on some issues even for me. Their Trump & election coverage was filled with a lot of false promises and foot in their mouth moments.
They are responsible for pandering clowns like Dave Rubin & Jimmy Door. However, they call out corporate Democrats just as much as the Republicans. They have some good stories that are true and that can be fact checked. I dont need them to tell me what to think or how to interpret the stories they present though.
So why especially them????
 
Consistently being pulled over and asking how I got said car for being so "young." Even had a serious ticket thrown out once when I got my 1st new Corvette in my early twenties. Despite them running the tags and verifying it was mine, after multiple officers told me I shouldn't be learning on somebody's car....They still wrote the ticket as if the car wasn't mine. The magistrate was PISSED. Threw the ticket out & apologized . He couldn't believe that they still were using verbiage on the ticket and in the report that mentioned the car not being mine.

TYT is no different than others. They are way too far left on some issues even for me. Their Trump & election coverage was filled with a lot of false promises and foot in their mouth moments.
They are responsible for pandering clowns like Dave Rubin & Jimmy Door. However, they call out corporate Democrats just as much as the Republicans. They have some good stories that are true and that can be fact checked. I dont need them to tell me what to think or how to interpret the stories they present though.
So why especially them????

The worst I ever saw from tyt was the Kyle rittenhouse coverage
 
I call them The Young Turds because they are pieces of shit. I don't know if I have ever watched any of their stuff though so the turd thing is just a guess on my part.
 
The worst I ever saw from tyt was the Kyle rittenhouse coverage
I purposefully did not watch or engage in any of the Rittenhouse stuff. Sometimes you don't have to take a side. Especially when you feel both parties have dirty hands & got exactly what they were looking for. What did they say that was untrue or dishonest ???
 
I purposefully did not watch or engage in any of the Rittenhouse stuff. Sometimes you don't have to take a side. Especially when you feel both parties have dirty hands & got exactly what they were looking for. What did they say that was untrue or dishonest ???

iirc, they kept calling him a murderer after his acquittal was the main one and the one host walked it back after threats of a lawsuit
 
Funny side note: I am currently involved in a stupid twitter argument where a guy is trying to say that Ashli Babbitt was murdered in a more horrid way than this kid. I said that there were much better options for capital police to shoot that day such as the assholes holding down cops and beating them with clubs and he called me a bootlicker. I think it is qanon shaman himself I am arguing with
 
So one of the cops sent a pic of the bloodied and cuffed Tyree to 5 folks including a civilian woman. I had come across twitter posts and a post on here claiming one of these cop’s girlfriends had a possible affair with him. Thought it sounded pretty implausible at the time but this is makes it seem possible.

“In the newly released documents, police officials said that one of the five officers, Demetrius Haley, admitted to sending a photograph of Mr. Nichols to at least five people, including two fellow officers, a civilian employee of the department and a female acquaintance. A sixth person also received the photo, the records state.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/07/...te=1&user_id=b73c5aad8cb1d03f04ae9cd25d89f821
 
So one of the cops sent a pic of the bloodied and cuffed Tyree to 5 folks including a civilian woman. I had come across twitter posts and a post on here claiming one of these cop’s girlfriends had a possible affair with him. Thought it sounded pretty implausible at the time but this is makes it seem possible.

“In the newly released documents, police officials said that one of the five officers, Demetrius Haley, admitted to sending a photograph of Mr. Nichols to at least five people, including two fellow officers, a civilian employee of the department and a female acquaintance. A sixth person also received the photo, the records state.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/07/...te=1&user_id=b73c5aad8cb1d03f04ae9cd25d89f821
Document and share the evidence of a violent crime you just committed. They should add a decade on to this guy's sentence just for being a complete fucking moron.
 
Document and share the evidence of a violent crime you just committed. They should add a decade on to this guy's sentence just for being a complete fucking moron.

I mean, if they can successfully argue this was a targeted stop based on personal grudge that makes the case for a murder charge stronger
 



This is just like the Gun Trace Task Force in Baltimore.

They deliberately picked cops with violent tendencies for the unit because the whole point is to rough up people in high crime neighborhoods.
 
Some officers pled guilty and are looking at decades in prison, others were acquitted of some charges, including civil rights violations resulting in death. They somehow caught witness tampering charges-maybe from staging a coverup.

This was one of the most brutal police beatings I have ever seen. I just hate that it is once again, ben crump, that will get very rich off of this incident.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/j...s-fatal-beating/ar-AA1rEtnM?ocid=BingNewsSerp
 

3 former Memphis officers acquitted in fatal beating of Tyre Nichols after he fled a traffic stop

Memphis, TennesseeAP —
Three former Memphis officers were acquitted Wednesday of all state charges, including second-degree murder, in the fatal beating of Tyre Nichols after he ran away from a traffic stop, a death that sparked nationwide protests and prompted renewed calls for police reforms in the U.S.

An out-of-town jury from a majority-white county took about 8 1/2 hours over two days to find Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley and Justin Smith not guilty on all charges after a nine-day trial in state court in Memphis, which is majority-Black. After the jury’s verdict was read, the defendants hugged their lawyers as relatives of the former officers cried. One relative yelled, “Thank you, Jesus!”

Martin Zummach, Smith’s attorney, told The Associated Press by text: “It’s easy to defend a good person. It’s nerve racking to represent an innocent man. “

The three defendants still face the prospect of years in prison after they were convicted of federal charges last year, though they were acquitted of the most serious charges then, too. Two other former officers previously pleaded guilty in both state and federal court, including Emmitt Martin, who defense attorneys blamed for the majority of the violence.

Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, fled a traffic stop after he was yanked out of his car, pepper-sprayed and hit with a Taser. Five officers who are also Black caught up with him and punched, kicked and hit him with a police baton, struggling to handcuff Nichols as he called out for his mother just steps from his home. Nichols died Jan. 10, 2023, three days after the beating.

Footage of the beating captured by a police pole camera also showed the officers milling about, talking and laughing as Nichols struggled with his injuries, video that prompted intense scrutiny of police in Memphis.

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Civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who represents Nichols’ family, issued a statement expressing outrage at the outcome of the trial.

“Today’s verdicts are a devastating miscarriage of justice,” the statement reads. ”The world watched as Tyre Nichols was beaten to death by those sworn to protect and serve.”

Memphis District Attorney Steve Mulroy said he respects the jury but thinks the evidence was there for every charge that prosecutors brought.

“Was I surprised that there wasn’t a single guilty verdict on any of the counts or any of the lesser-included offenses, given the overwhelming evidence that we presented? Yes, I was surprised. Do I have an explanation for it? No.”

He said he spoke to Nichols’ family briefly and, “They were devastated. … I think they were outraged, and we can understand why they would be outraged, given the evidence.”

Defense attorneys said Martin was responsible for the most violence

Former Memphis officers Desmond Mills Jr. and Martin, who were also involved in the beating, did not stand trial in state court after they agreed to a plea deal with prosecutors. They also pleaded guilty in federal court, where sentencing for all five officers is pending.

At trial, defense attorneys emphasized that Martin kicked and punched Nichols several times in the head.

The defense also seemed to score points with their use-of-force experts, who testified that the three officers on trial acted in compliance with police department policies and widely accepted law enforcement standards. Attorneys for Bean and Smith called character witnesses who testified that the men were good officers who did their job the right way.

Mills testified for the prosecution, saying he regrets his failure to stop the beating, which led to Nichols’ death from blunt force trauma. Nichols suffered tears and bleeding in the brain, Dr. Marco Ross, the medical examiner who performed the autopsy, said in court testimony.

The officers had been charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct and official oppression. In addition to beating Nichols, prosecutors also said the officers failed to intervene and failed to tell medical personnel that Nichols had been hit repeatedly in the head.

The defense argued that Nichols was resisting arrest

Mills acknowledged on the stand that he had a duty to intervene, but didn’t. He admitted Nichols never punched or kicked any of the officers.

But Mills also bolstered the defense’s case when he said Nichols was actively resisting arrest and not complying with orders to present his hands to be cuffed. Under cross-examination, he indicated he would not have struck Nichols if Nichols had put his hands behind his back. He also agreed that an officer is not safe until a suspect is handcuffed and searched for a weapon.

Zummach noted in closing arguments that credit and debit cards that did not belong to Nichols were found in his car when it was searched after the beating and said it was likely why Nichols ran from the traffic stop. Defense lawyers have argued that the fatal beating would not have taken place if Nichols had just allowed himself to be handcuffed.

“This is Emmitt Martin’s and Tyre Nichols’ doing,” Zummach said.

The jury for the state trial was chosen in Hamilton County, which includes Chattanooga, after Judge James Jones Jr. ordered the case be heard from people outside of Shelby County, which includes Memphis. Defense lawyers for the officers had argued that intense publicity made seating a fair jury difficult.

In December, the U.S. Justice Department said a 17-month investigation showed the Memphis Police Department uses excessive force and discriminates against Black people.

The five officers, the city of Memphis and the police chief are being sued by Nichols’ family for $550 million. A trial has been scheduled for next year.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/07/us/tyre-nichols-memphis-officers-trial
 

3 former Memphis officers acquitted in fatal beating of Tyre Nichols after he fled a traffic stop

Memphis, TennesseeAP —
Three former Memphis officers were acquitted Wednesday of all state charges, including second-degree murder, in the fatal beating of Tyre Nichols after he ran away from a traffic stop, a death that sparked nationwide protests and prompted renewed calls for police reforms in the U.S.

An out-of-town jury from a majority-white county took about 8 1/2 hours over two days to find Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley and Justin Smith not guilty on all charges after a nine-day trial in state court in Memphis, which is majority-Black. After the jury’s verdict was read, the defendants hugged their lawyers as relatives of the former officers cried. One relative yelled, “Thank you, Jesus!”

Martin Zummach, Smith’s attorney, told The Associated Press by text: “It’s easy to defend a good person. It’s nerve racking to represent an innocent man. “

The three defendants still face the prospect of years in prison after they were convicted of federal charges last year, though they were acquitted of the most serious charges then, too. Two other former officers previously pleaded guilty in both state and federal court, including Emmitt Martin, who defense attorneys blamed for the majority of the violence.

Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, fled a traffic stop after he was yanked out of his car, pepper-sprayed and hit with a Taser. Five officers who are also Black caught up with him and punched, kicked and hit him with a police baton, struggling to handcuff Nichols as he called out for his mother just steps from his home. Nichols died Jan. 10, 2023, three days after the beating.

Footage of the beating captured by a police pole camera also showed the officers milling about, talking and laughing as Nichols struggled with his injuries, video that prompted intense scrutiny of police in Memphis.

ef1e72e0-45d4-4048-abe8-003b778a8cc1.jpg

Civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who represents Nichols’ family, issued a statement expressing outrage at the outcome of the trial.

“Today’s verdicts are a devastating miscarriage of justice,” the statement reads. ”The world watched as Tyre Nichols was beaten to death by those sworn to protect and serve.”

Memphis District Attorney Steve Mulroy said he respects the jury but thinks the evidence was there for every charge that prosecutors brought.

“Was I surprised that there wasn’t a single guilty verdict on any of the counts or any of the lesser-included offenses, given the overwhelming evidence that we presented? Yes, I was surprised. Do I have an explanation for it? No.”

He said he spoke to Nichols’ family briefly and, “They were devastated. … I think they were outraged, and we can understand why they would be outraged, given the evidence.”

Defense attorneys said Martin was responsible for the most violence

Former Memphis officers Desmond Mills Jr. and Martin, who were also involved in the beating, did not stand trial in state court after they agreed to a plea deal with prosecutors. They also pleaded guilty in federal court, where sentencing for all five officers is pending.

At trial, defense attorneys emphasized that Martin kicked and punched Nichols several times in the head.

The defense also seemed to score points with their use-of-force experts, who testified that the three officers on trial acted in compliance with police department policies and widely accepted law enforcement standards. Attorneys for Bean and Smith called character witnesses who testified that the men were good officers who did their job the right way.

Mills testified for the prosecution, saying he regrets his failure to stop the beating, which led to Nichols’ death from blunt force trauma. Nichols suffered tears and bleeding in the brain, Dr. Marco Ross, the medical examiner who performed the autopsy, said in court testimony.

The officers had been charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct and official oppression. In addition to beating Nichols, prosecutors also said the officers failed to intervene and failed to tell medical personnel that Nichols had been hit repeatedly in the head.

The defense argued that Nichols was resisting arrest

Mills acknowledged on the stand that he had a duty to intervene, but didn’t. He admitted Nichols never punched or kicked any of the officers.

But Mills also bolstered the defense’s case when he said Nichols was actively resisting arrest and not complying with orders to present his hands to be cuffed. Under cross-examination, he indicated he would not have struck Nichols if Nichols had put his hands behind his back. He also agreed that an officer is not safe until a suspect is handcuffed and searched for a weapon.

Zummach noted in closing arguments that credit and debit cards that did not belong to Nichols were found in his car when it was searched after the beating and said it was likely why Nichols ran from the traffic stop. Defense lawyers have argued that the fatal beating would not have taken place if Nichols had just allowed himself to be handcuffed.

“This is Emmitt Martin’s and Tyre Nichols’ doing,” Zummach said.

The jury for the state trial was chosen in Hamilton County, which includes Chattanooga, after Judge James Jones Jr. ordered the case be heard from people outside of Shelby County, which includes Memphis. Defense lawyers for the officers had argued that intense publicity made seating a fair jury difficult.

In December, the U.S. Justice Department said a 17-month investigation showed the Memphis Police Department uses excessive force and discriminates against Black people.

The five officers, the city of Memphis and the police chief are being sued by Nichols’ family for $550 million. A trial has been scheduled for next year.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/07/us/tyre-nichols-memphis-officers-trial

Wow. One of the worst beatings I have seen by police. I am surprised that a jury would find the officers not guilty. I am sure ben crump is shitting flaming kittens from his bigoted ass about now
 
I will never understand the mentality of people who sit on juries and will excuse any level of misconduct from police.

This isn't making them or the general public safer. It just incentivizes misconduct and sloppy police work.

There is no justification whatsoever for what those guys did.

Nichols was pulled over because their unit hadn't hit their bullshit quota for the night and was then beaten to death because the culture of the unit was to be hyper-aggressive.

The lack of accountability is insane, especially for that incompetent chief, who was brought in to create an anti-crime unit after the one that she ran in Atlanta murdered a 90 year old woman in her own home and was disbanded by APD.

When you let people fail onwards and upwards, it just makes more and more problems.
 
This beating reminded me of the Kelly Thomas beating in seattle(I think) where he was screaming for his dad after the one cop put on his “ass beating gloves” that one is tough to watch
 
I'm so confused how three of the officers got off on this?

The video seems pretty open and shut. They pulled over this guy on a routine stop (without any probably cause) and then immediately terrorized him. No explanation or talk at all. Just immediately and aggressively pulled him out of the car while screaming at him.

Yes he shouldn't have fled, but they literally caused the guy to be terrified by immediately screaming multiple conflicting instructions such as get on the ground when he's already on the ground, hitting, tazing and pepper spraying him, etc.

Then they beat the fuck out of him and bragged about it with each other "I was hitting him with straight haymakers dawg..."

They repeatedly threatened Nichols with violence, even as he appeared to comply with their commands or was already on the ground. He was also never told why he was being pulled over or that he was under arrest.

WTF that's murder.

 
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