Economy Trump's April 2nd Tariffs

[avenue94]

No I'm voting for the democrats to change and be a much more palatable party in the near future so that maybe they can actually do it

Kamala Harris wasn't going to. Maybe the next one will

Why would the lesson they take from a protest vote like yours be swing to the left when you voted for a far right candidate instead of a far left option?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Well then I guess they need to do something to win Bigly and get some kind of mandate going huh

There's no win big enough, other than a giant Senate majority, which is functionally impossible. The only remotely feasible hope would be to win enough consecutive Presidencies to wait out Alito and Thomas.... but that isn't going to happen either, certainly not with people dragging their heels to "teach Democrats a lesson" they can do nothing with

 

[Gutter Chris]

Consider? I am so interested to know what is your hesitation? I mean you got what you wanted hypothetically.

Did I misunderstand you? I thought you were asking me if I'd vote for a party that was going to pass national Healthcare even if they were trying to pass anti gun laws ?

If that is the correct take...I would not like it but maybe with the current Supreme Court I would take the risk because I think they would uphold the right . I would have to see exactly what the conditions were at the exact moment to make the best decision I could

This is also what my problem with politics is. My 2 big issues are kind of an extreme right one and an extreme left one and I'm always being asked to make a major sacrifice that I don't want to make and it frustrates me. I just want the democrats to drop the gun control and make my life easier for once

 

[Gutter Chris]

There's no win big enough, other than a giant Senate majority, which is functionally impossible. The only remotely feasible hope would be to win enough consecutive Presidencies to wait out Alito and Thomas.... but that isn't going to happen either, certainly not with people dragging their heels to "teach Democrats a lesson" they can do nothing with

What should I do Pete? The 2 parties are putting me in what I feel is a difficult position

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Why not vote third party or stay home at that point?

I never understood the adamant refusal go against 2 party

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Depending on the context I would say that at the state and local level there's a good argument for voting GOP over Dems.

But Trump is a uniquely bad candidate. If someone voted GOP up and down the ballot except for Trump that I could understand much better.

I have voted R in IL state elections in the past. I would have voted for John kasich over Hillary if only given two choices (I would have voted jill stein though in a kasich, Clinton, stein race).

But I'd vote for a literal bag full of shit over Donald Trump. And at this point 99% of Republicans have thrown away any modicum of decency that they had by all of them going full authoritarian with Trump. They're all now guilty by aiding and abetting this damage to our economy and our democracy at large.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Well for example, Trump ran on these stupid tariffs which presumably we all agree are really bad and yet many of his voters are acting surprised even though tariffs were his signature economic policy on the campaign trail. To me that's being uninformed.

You don't think the GOP needs change? You haven't noticed the dark turn they've taken under Trump's leadership? We're less than 100 days into his second term and we're staring down the barrel of a constitutional crisis and a recession.

"My own party"

You consider yourself a Democrat? And you voted for Trump? Why not vote third party or stay home at that point?

Yes my own party

Until November I never votes republican. I feel like I'm repeating myself at this point. I want the democrats to get so blown out that they come back a much more streamlined party Lazer focused on economic issues and silent about cultural

 

[MMA IAN]

It's the Democrats fault that Trump is starting a trade war? He could just not do that right? Although at this point the damage might be done.

This is the most retarded take i have seen in a while, whatever Trump does in office is a direct result of the people who voted Trump because they supported him or were retarded enough to buy his lies.

There are only 2 type of Trump voters, retards and supporters and ill leave to everyone's conscience to think which side they belong to.

The dems had the opportunity to not lie about Biden for 4 years, then had the option to pick someone other than the worst presidential candidate they could think of.

They didn't just drop the ball they tied their own shoelaces together because they thought they were unbeatable and ate fucking shit for it, so yes, they have blood on their hands for Trumps actions. Trump does too but he wouldn't be in the position to do what he is doing if the dems weren't arrogant pieces of shit and listened to what people wanted.

The dems could have stopped Trump from winning but they didnt.

If they'd run a serious candidate and lost it'd be a different story, but they chose not to so they absolutely share some blame.

 

[AWilder]

Well then I guess they need to do something to win Bigly and get some kind of mandate going huh

we should send them a message by voting trump a 4th time

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

What should I do Pete? The 2 parties are putting me in what I feel is a difficult position

Vote for the third party that next most closely aligns to your beliefs? Instead if the one in which you claim is against your beliefs?

 

[curryjunkie]

Good think about that every time you talk about ar 15s , mag restrictions and healthcare fixes that enrich the very companies that are the problem

Lol the dnc just took an ass whippin doing it your way. Maybe we can try mine next round ?

this is your way now....hows that going?

 

[Rod1]

What should I do Pete? The 2 parties are putting me in what I feel is a difficult position

Always vote for the least worst option, that's simple as fuck.

 

[Limbo Pete]

What should I do Pete? The 2 parties are putting me in what I feel is a difficult position

Well I can't tell you what to do, but I can say that the rationalization given here for what you have done... isn't logical. And that's fine, but if you genuinely feel like voting for Donald Trump will make Democrats somehow warp into the Bernie Zone or whatever, you're wrong. All voting for the GOP does is give them the actual power to do things you say you hate.

 

[curryjunkie]

We lost a cost of living election. Kamala ran well to the middle compared to Biden in 20 who beat Trump by a wider margin than Trump beat Kamala. I'm a Michigan voter too and while we both have to suffer under Trump at least I didn't enable it. You say you want national healthcare but you voted for Donald Trump lol. Sounds like you are able to compromise and vote for candidates that don't support all of your views, it just so happens you only hold one party to that standard.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Why would the lesson they take from a protest vote like yours be swing to the left when you voted for a far right candidate instead of a far left option?

Well I was thinking maybe they would notice the fake populism of the right resonating and come back with an actual genuine version of it that actually helps people.

I was thinking that perhaps after being abandoned by the working class they might do something to court those people and bring them back

I was also thinking that after being out of power for a while they would start throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks and come back with some new ideas or a renewed passion to fight.

 

[Darkavius]

Did I misunderstand you? I thought you were asking me if I'd vote for a party that was going to pass national Healthcare even if they were trying to pass anti gun laws ?

If that is the correct take...I would not like it but maybe with the current Supreme Court I would take the risk because I think they would uphold the right . I would have to see exactly what the conditions were at the exact moment to make the best decision I could

This is also what my problem with politics is. My 2 big issues are kind of an extreme right one and an extreme left one and I'm always being asked to make a major sacrifice that I don't want to make and it frustrates me. I just want the democrats to drop the gun control and make my life easier for once

Not sure why this is a considered a major sacrifice. I mean at a certain age you won't even be able to lift a gun properly or shoot as well because of old people vision, but at least if you're old and immobile you could get a decent looking nurse to wipe your ass. I mean there's that or you could have a gold gun with a chainsaw on it and if you die we'll just throw you in a ditch.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

we should send them a message by voting trump a 4th time

Just to be safe, let's make it a half dozen

 

[Rod1]

The dems had the opportunity to not lie about Biden for 4 years, then had the option to pick someone other than the worst presidential candidate they could think of.

And Republicans had the opportunity to not have Trump as the candidate but alas, here we are.

They didn't just drop the ball they tied their own shoelaces together because they thought they were unbeatable and ate fucking shit for it

Could they have done better? fuck yes, but then again so could Republicans, but somehow Republicans choosing Trump to be their candidate is not important.

, so yes, they have blood on their hands for Trumps actions. Trump does too but he wouldn't be in the position to do what he is doing if the dems weren't arrogant pieces of shit and listened to what people wanted.

Trump wouldn't be in the position he is if MAGAtards had not made him the Republican candidate twice and if GOP had some balls to actually rein him in and stop him from doing stupid shit.

he dems could have stopped Trump from winning but they didnt.

So could have Republican voters...

If they'd run a serious candidate and lost it'd be a different story, but they chose not to so they absolutely share some blame.

Funny how you consider Trump a serious candidate but not Kamala, anything to take any sort of accountability.

GOP is the party of toddler and manchildren definitively, "I dindu nuffin, its all the Dems fault for my own choices and actions".



Trump: "Im going to fuck shit up if i win"
Kamala: "He is literally saying that he is going fuck shit up if he wins, literally"

Retards: "im going to vote Trump"

Trump fucks shit up

"ITS THE FAULT OF DEMOCRATS"

 

[Gutter Chris]

this is your way now....hows that going?

I dunno it's still a bit early to tell and we won't know where the dnc really is til the next presidential primary.

Tell ya what. Trump runs for a third term I will vote Democrat no matter what because I do find that to be a bit too threatening for me.

That fair ?

 

[curryjunkie]

This is baffling. You claim to want national Healthcare and instead of voting for the party that made some progress toward it you voted for the party that actively opposes it.

its the guns, he loves the guns more than the healthcare..