Elections Trump's approval rating

[Daverisimo]

Uhhh..."illegal immigration"? That was a lot bigger of an issue than the Palestine one, and affected FAR more people. Not that Palestine wasn't an issue, but it was merely a sprinkle on a sundae of shit, that drove away some young people, and pockets of Muslims.

They lost because they were bad in all categories. It's hard to nail down just one or two. The prior administration was a complete shit show from top to bottom. That's why they lost.

Literally nothing you say means anything to me. You're a partisan hack, and you almost make me wish Trump would invade Canada in the hope that you'd get thrown into a labor camp.

 

[HereticBD]

Literally nothing you say means anything to me. You're a partisan hack, and you almost make me wish Trump would invade Canada in the hope that you'd get thrown into a labor camp.

Wow, good comeback. Vapid dipshit.

And you wonder why you lose. "Someone disagreed with me? Block, delete, ignore."

LOL. Keep living in your own world, bud. It's getting smaller by the day, and the best part is that you don't even see it. Keep on truckin'. Working out great for ya. By all means, never learn. The world will be a far better place, when people like you are just left talking to themselves.

 

[Mike]

Anti-immigration is un-American. We need better processing; the issue is with staffing and policy which yes, need to be improved. We are a nation of immigrants and unlike a lot of Latin Americans, a lot of people don't have native American blood that dates back thousands of years in the Americas. We literally have a state called New Mexico and a lot of Spanish names for cities and so forth.

There's also the fact that the US and imperial core are the cause for a lot of immigration due to our meddling.


Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


"The New Colossus" is a sonnet written by Emma Lazarus in 1883 to raise funds for the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. The poem contrasts the Statue of Liberty with the ancient Colossus of Rhodes, highlighting the Statue's role as a symbol of hope and freedom for immigrants rather than a monument to conquest and war.

The poem's most famous lines, "Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," express the Statue of Liberty's welcoming spirit to those seeking refuge and a better life. Lazarus personifies the statue as "Mother of Exiles," a figure who offers sanctuary to the "wretched refuse" of other nations, emphasizing the United States' role as a haven for the oppressed.

The poem's message has been widely interpreted and discussed, with some arguing that it contains a whiff of condescension in its use of terms like "wretched refuse," while others see it as a powerful and humane plea for compassion. Despite these debates, "The New Colossus" has become an enduring symbol of American ideals of liberty and inclusivity.

In recent years, the poem has been invoked in discussions about immigration policy and national identity, with some critics using it to challenge exclusionary policies and others questioning its relevance to contemporary debates.

I used to live in that shit hole, so you don't gotta tell me NM exists lol. Nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.

Anyways the average working class person really isn't going to want a history lesson on how centuries of policy got us here. I've spoken at length about this before when I used to actually post here, but for a very long time now the left has had this issue with packaging up shit working class people don't want, and trying to spin it and tell us we actually love it.

Well a lot of working class people are able to see with their own eyes that massive immigration with no real plan or control helps one group, corporate America. Because they get more chattel to stuff into the wood chipper that they call the modern working class. It fucks over everyone else. Having grown up an impoverished minority, I've lived in a lot of areas with a high immigrant population. Living in such areas has always been nothing but negatives for me.

Increased competition for jobs, housing, education, etc. Lower wages and benefits because they love intentionally bringing in people from the third world since they frequently will not oppose unsafe working conditions, low pay, harassment, unpaid overtime, lack of raised or promotions etc. They always except whatever the lowest bare minimum is from an employer, and won't stand up with you for workers rights ever.

Many of them also immediately self segregate into areas with only people from their country, only want to speak their language and interact with their people. Show nothing but disdain and disrespect to American born citizens every chance they get, and just generally act incredibly tribalistic and petty for a group of people acting like everyone here OWES them something for some reason. I don't care what an old sign says or how we've historically handled immigration so we can keep wages and rights for the working class as low as possible.

I'm smart enough to see that this is what's going on, despite the bullshit reasons the left is always coming up with that we bring them here out of compassion. Anyone that's grown up poor here knows what a crock of shit that idea is. It's easier to keep their neo feudalism going when they just import the third world here again every time living standards start to go up.

 

[badascan]

They can pay losers to wear masks and hold signs on street corners but can't get them to answer the surveys? I don't believe CNN... Never trust these propagandists, they've discredited themselves over and over...

 

[deviake]

I used to live in that shit hole, so you don't gotta tell me NM exists lol. Nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.

Anyways the average working class person really isn't going to want a history lesson on how centuries of policy got us here. I've spoken at length about this before when I used to actually post here, but for a very long time now the left has had this issue with packaging up shit working class people don't want, and trying to spin it and tell us we actually love it.

Well a lot of working class people are able to see with their own eyes that massive immigration with no real plan or control helps one group, corporate America. Because they get more chattel to stuff into the wood chipper that they call the modern working class. It fucks over everyone else. Having grown up an impoverished minority, I've lived in a lot of areas with a high immigrant population. Living in such areas has always been nothing but negatives for me.

Increased competition for jobs, housing, education, etc. Lower wages and benefits because they love intentionally bringing in people from the third world since they frequently will not oppose unsafe working conditions, low pay, harassment, unpaid overtime, lack of raised or promotions etc. They always except whatever the lowest bare minimum is from an employer, and won't stand up with you for workers rights ever.

Many of them also immediately self segregate into areas with only people from their country, only want to speak their language and interact with their people. Show nothing but disdain and disrespect to American born citizens every chance they get, and just generally act incredibly tribalistic and petty for a group of people acting like everyone here OWES them something for some reason. I don't care what an old sign says or how we've historically handled immigration so we can keep wages and rights for the working class as low as possible.

I'm smart enough to see that this is what's going on, despite the bullshit reasons the left is always coming up with that we bring them here out of compassion. Anyone that's grown up poor here knows what a crock of shit that idea is. It's easier to keep their neo feudalism going when they just import the third world here again every time living standards start to go up.

When I said policy, that's what I was referring to. We need way more personnel to deal with immigration and I don't want to see guest visas and the like used to undermine native born (relatively speaking) American labor. Part of the reason they're able to be used that way is due to the gutting of unions and slow processing. It's complicated. I don't think blaming the immigrants is fair, it's the system and that they're used as a political football.

I don't know what left you're referring to, liberals/the Democrats are center right. There is no major leftwing party in the US. It's center right and far right. The only thing the Democrats are left on is identity, much of which is because that's the only thing that doesn't piss off their donors.

From my understanding immigration expands the economy. Things don't stay the same size as people multiply.

 

[Deaths Head]

Hey weirdo, time for an update

I had a small victory tonight someone living with us who’s the SECOND biggest Trump supporter finally had his first meltdown after at least 3 years talking about how great Trump is ….this actually happened 2 hours ago that means it’s a significant win in the great picture this guy is of person of interest……after he complained about his wages and prices ..he’s finally getting it . Took 3 years but and that’s only bc I never discussed politics ever with him .

His rambling got him nowhere but aggravated what a waste of time and years he realized in the energy he put on that guy . Lol

 

[Mike]

When I said policy, that's what I was referring to. We need way more personnel to deal with immigration and I don't want to see guest visas and the like used to undermine native born (relatively speaking) American labor. Part of the reason they're able to be used that way is due to the gutting of unions and slow processing. It's complicated. I don't think blaming the immigrants is fair, it's the system and that they're used as a political football.

I don't know what left you're referring to, liberals/the Democrats are center right. There is no major leftwing party in the US. It's center right and far right. The only thing the Democrats are left on is identity, much of which is because that's the only thing that doesn't piss off their donors.

From my understanding immigration expands the economy. Things don't stay the same size as people multiply.

I'd say many people felt like the Dems policies on immigration and identity politics are SO FAR to the extreme left, that it disenfranchised people like myself to the degree they felt pushed out of the party. You can't just ignore people entirely on issues they feel are important and say tough shit, you have go with use because we're the lesser of two evils.

Any argument that market forces or whatever over time are going to even things out is a.nonstartsr for me personally. Because that's assuming the system won't be manipulated every step of the way. And we've seen now that it absolutely will be. They've kept finding artificial reasons to massively import these people because they want to use them to suppress worker wages, rights, and benefits here. Constantly create.an.artificial supplementary workforce that will happily work for a ham sandwich, wont want annoying things like breaks, medical insurance, a living wage, paid overtime etc.


It was a good hustle for them for awhile but the working class has caught on. I.cant walk twenty feet in an American city without running into mentally deranged homeless people and tent cities, so you really can't keep serving me this bullshit sandwich that you wanna bring anyone here to help improve their quality of life. The government doesn't give a shit about the people. They just want more serfs.

 

[AWilder]

Rename this the maga cope thread

 

[Deaths Head]

They can pay losers to wear masks and hold signs on street corners but can't get them to answer the surveys? I don't believe CNN... Never trust these propagandists, they've discredited themselves over and over...

Why does CNN rank higher then Fox News with actual fact checking by the National broadcast network that checks them ? Not that is hard to do but if you think Fox News is real most the time I’d say your an idiot along with many foolish people gullible people if you’re over 25 years old you have no excuse for a grown adult brain to not understand propaganda and misinformation that bad . Lol

I mean if I was a dummy and wanted entertainment I’d watch FOX news it’s definitely that ( I actually do watch it so I can keep up with the most bizarre spins I’ve ever seen ) ,but if I want something real I’d watch anything else like even international news ,he’ll I used to like WWE to but I understood MMA was far better bc it wasn’t scripted….lol

 

[badascan]

Why does CNN rank higher then Fox News with actual fact checking by the National broadcast network that checks them ? Not that is hard to do but if you think Fox News is real most the time I’d say your an idiot along with many foolish people gullible people if you’re over 25 years old you have no excuse for a grown adult brain to not understand propaganda and misinformation that bad . Lol

I mean if I was a dummy and wanted entertainment I’d watch FOX news it’s definitely that ( I actually do watch it so I can keep up with the most bizarre spins I’ve ever seen ) ,but if I want something real I’d watch anything else like even international news ,he’ll I used to like WWE to but I understood MMA was far better bc it wasn’t scripted….lol

 

[Rod1]

Well that's a load of horseshit.

As far as your "identity politics" argument goes, the Republicans are merely reacting to insanity. The Dems push identity politics in every thing they do. For God's sake, they've even managed to make "green energy" about identity politics, because as we all know(according to those fucking retards), gays and blacks are the most affected by climate change.

GTFO with this nonsense of the right being all about identity politics. It's not the right pushing CRT and DEI. They're just pushing back on it, because it's crazy. All you lefties do is judge people by their skin color or social status. Who do you think you're fooling?

Its amazing how you guys got brainwashed by propaganda, its pretty clear that you guys live in an echo chamber that magnifiest the silliest stuff from the left and minimize the crazy stuff from the right.

Biden administration focused mostly on economic issues and global threats.

Also lol at "Republicans are just pushing back"

Buddy Republicans elected Donald Trump as their Supreme Leader, if Republicans just wanted normal they would had gone with Cruz, Kasich or Rubio but nope, they went with Donald Trump and even after seeing how bad Trump was they still had the chance to correct and pick Haley, but they doubled down on Trump

 

[Mike]

Its amazing how you guys got brainwashed by propaganda, its pretty clear that you guys live in an echo chamber that magnifiest the silliest stuff from the left and minimize the crazy stuff from the right.

Biden administration focused mostly on economic issues and global threats.

Also lol at "Republicans are just pushing back"

Buddy Republicans elected Donald Trump as their Supreme Leader, if Republicans just wanted normal they would had gone with Cruz, Kasich or Rubio but nope, they went with Donald Trump and even after seeing how bad Trump was they still had the chance to correct and pick Haley, but they doubled down on Trump

They have supported the shit every step of the way is the point. And outside of liberal echo chambers, it's incredibly unpopular particularly with the working class. No they didn't run on trans bullshit as a core issue.

They just supported it and never spoke out against it and made sure to frame it like anyone that was against it is a Nazi and should just leave the party if they don't like it. And so they did. They did the same thing with immigration. Just flat out ignored the voters and said we see that you are saying this is an important issue but you know what fuck you. It's us or Trump.

So even on this stuff we refuse to be reasonable you have to side with us or big bad scary Trump wins. No solid plans on what they're going to do, outright refusing to acknowledge that after 4 years with Dems in power many Dems feel like things are getting worse with them in power, not better.

And on top of that they purposely hid that Biden was compromised until we were trapped with Harris. Just completely ignoring that everyone hates her and yet again trying to just gaslight their base into believing their narrative. They just keep pissing off their base either intentionally or because they're so arrogant they thought they would win no matter what. They could just tell us to fuck off with our concerns and we'd vote for them anyways because scary orange man bad.

 

[curryjunkie]

Yes.


Ok?


The meme is definitively true

Perfect

 

[Crazy Source]

COPE

 

[AWilder]

They have supported the shit every step of the way is the point. And outside of liberal echo chambers, it's incredibly unpopular particularly with the working class. No they didn't run on trans bullshit as a core issue.

They just supported it and never spoke out against it and made sure to frame it like anyone that was against it is a Nazi and should just leave the party if they don't like it. And so they did. They did the same thing with immigration. Just flat out ignored the voters and said we see that you are saying this is an important issue but you know what fuck you. It's us or Trump.

So even on this stuff we refuse to be reasonable you have to side with us or big bad scary Trump wins. No solid plans on what they're going to do, outright refusing to acknowledge that after 4 years with Dems in power many Dems feel like things are getting worse with them in power, not better.

And on top of that they purposely hid that Biden was compromised until we were trapped with Harris. Just completely ignoring that everyone hates her and yet again trying to just gaslight their base into believing their narrative. They just keep pissing off their base either intentionally or because they're so arrogant they thought they would win no matter what. They could just tell us to fuck off with our concerns and we'd vote for them anyways because scary orange man bad.

Pretty sad that you have to lie to yourself to justify Trump. Just sad cope.

 

[BjPenn2017]

I had a small victory tonight someone living with us who’s the SECOND biggest Trump supporter finally had his first meltdown after at least 3 years talking about how great Trump is ….this actually happened 2 hours ago that means it’s a significant win in the great picture this guy is of person of interest……after he complained about his wages and prices ..he’s finally getting it . Took 3 years but and that’s only bc I never discussed politics ever with him .

His rambling got him nowhere but aggravated what a waste of time and years he realized in the energy he put on that guy . Lol

Then the toaster and Fridge clapped

 

[Rod1]

They have supported the shit every step of the way is the point. And outside of liberal echo chambers, it's incredibly unpopular particularly with the working class. No they didn't run on trans bullshit as a core issue.

What shit exactly do you think the federal government was doing?

They just supported it and never spoke out against it and made sure to frame it like anyone that was against it is a Nazi and should just leave the party if they don't like it. And so they did. They did the same thing with immigration. Just flat out ignored the voters and said we see that you are saying this is an important issue but you know what fuck you. It's us or Trump.

Really? it was federal policy to frame anyone against it a nazi?

So even on this stuff we refuse to be reasonable you have to side with us or big bad scary Trump wins. No solid plans on what they're going to do, outright refusing to acknowledge that after 4 years with Dems in power many Dems feel like things are getting worse with them in power, not better.

Again, let's assume that this was true for Dems that they were this crazy.

Why didn't Republicans picked anyone else but Trump to lead them? why not a regular Republican?

And on top of that they purposely hid that Biden was compromised until we were trapped with Harris. Just completely ignoring that everyone hates her and yet again trying to just gaslight their base into believing their narrative. They just keep pissing off their base either intentionally or because they're so arrogant they thought they would win no matter what. They could just tell us to fuck off with our concerns and we'd vote for them anyways because scary orange man bad.

Ok, but this doesn't has anything to do with Trump being a "reaction" from the right, because Trump predates all that shit

 

[HereticBD]

Its amazing how you guys got brainwashed by propaganda, its pretty clear that you guys live in an echo chamber that magnifiest the silliest stuff from the left and minimize the crazy stuff from the right.

Biden administration focused mostly on economic issues and global threats.

Yeah, I'm aware of the Democrats desperately trying to reshape their party in the face of an election where all of their policies they enacted over four years, killed them. They were really serious about the border too, right? LOL.

Talk about echo chambers. You fucking idiots lose an election...TERRIBLY, and you're still talking as if there's a campaign going on right now, as if people already didn't already reject your nonsense. Like, nobody is buying your bullshit except for your ever shrinking base. Get over it. Actually, no. Don't get over it. Keep pushing it.

Also lol at "Republicans are just pushing back"

Yes. When one party is stupid enough to try and push gender fluidity, and the other party just goes "Nah, there's just men and women", that's pushing back on the insanity your side was pushing. It was so easy, and wouldn't you know it, it resonated with people who aren't absolutely retarded. Oh', those crafty Republicans must have manifested that issue out of thin air...

Buddy Republicans elected Donald Trump as their Supreme Leader, if Republicans just wanted normal they would had gone with Cruz, Kasich or Rubio but nope, they went with Donald Trump and even after seeing how bad Trump was they still had the chance to correct and pick Haley, but they doubled down on Trump

The "correct pick" won the election. Cry more.

 

[Rod1]

Yeah, I'm aware of the Democrats desperately trying to reshape their party in the face of an election where all of their policies they enacted over four years, killed them. They were really serious about the border too, right? LOL.

Are you talking about Biden or Obama?

Talk about echo chambers. You fucking idiots lose an election...TERRIBLY, and you're still talking as if there's a campaign going on right now, as if people already didn't already reject your nonsense. Like, nobody is buying your bullshit except for your ever shrinking base. Get over it. Actually, no. Don't get over it. Keep pushing it.

Trump literally had to lie about what they were trying to do and he barely won by 2% against an emergency candidate, if he had been open about his tariff war or Project 2025 he would have lost.

Yes. When one party is stupid enough to try and push gender fluidity, and the other party just goes "Nah, there's just men and women", that's pushing back on the insanity your side was pushing. It was so easy, and wouldn't you know it, it resonated with people who aren't absolutely retarded. Oh', those crafty Republicans must have manifested that issue out of thin air...

The "correct pick" won the election. Cry more.

The fuck are on about the gender crap was not a big deal back in 2015-2016 and yet they picked Trump as candidate.

The "correct pick" won the election. Cry more.

Buddy this whole convo is because right wingers are crying, blaming Democrats for Donald Trump.

 

[HereticBD]

The fuck are on about the gender crap was not a big deal back in 2015-2016 and yet they picked Trump as candidate.

It wasn't? Interesting. I remember Obama introducing a "bathroom bill" at around that time. You know, the one that cost North Carolina an NBA All Star game? That's when this shit kicked off. Maybe read up a bit more, before you pop off.

Buddy this whole convo is because right wingers are crying

You keep telling yourself that, big guy.