Elections Trump's approval rating

[Confucamus]

Do you think Biden won a landslide in 2020?

Yup.

He won every single swing state too but with a much wider margin in the popular vote. Again, even going by tipping point state margin of victory Trump was at +1.7. Obama's tipping point margin in 08 was 9.0. So does that mean that was like a super duper landslide or? There are margins to this thing and by almost every measurable 24 was a close election.

Who cares? Because Trump didn't win the popular vote by the widest margin ever doesn't mean he didn't win the popular vote. You guys need to move on from this already. There will be other elections.

He would rank 44 out of 60 in terms of percentage of EC votes taken, nowhere close to a "landslide".

List of United States presidential elections by Electoral College margin - Wikipedia

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312-226 isn't an electoral landslide? Okay bud. This is beyond pathetic at this point.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Minorities voted for Trump in record numbers.

But not everyone that voted for Trump is part of his base or the MAGA movement. MAGA is still overwhelmingly white with grievance politics as one of its main pillars.

That's true of any election. The base is always that 20-30% that's extremely committed, while the rest have a more casual approach.

The people gloating about what a massive, sweeping victory 2024 was are part of the conservative base.

 

[Rational Poster]

Yup.


Who cares? Because Trump didn't win the popular vote by the widest margin ever doesn't mean he didn't win the popular vote. You guys need to move on from this already. There will be other elections.


312-226 isn't an electoral landslide? Okay bud. This is beyond pathetic at this point.

Trump only won by 1.5-2% of the vote against the worst Dem candidate in modern politics without a full season to campaign.

 

[AWilder]

Trump only won by 1.5-2% of the vote against the worst Dem candidate in modern politics without a full season to campaign.

I'd love to see a full camp harris

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I'd love to see a full camp harris

Full camp anyone would have put a better performance.

Harris stumbled onto her title shot. She was a last-second replacement and laughingly low in the rankings.

 

[Rod1]

312-226 isn't an electoral landslide? Okay bud. This is beyond pathetic at this point.

Using your own definition he would rank 44 out of 60 presidential elections if you think lower 30th percentile is a landslide then everything is a landslide.

 

[Rod1]

That doesn't change the fact that he's since gained voters, many of whom used to be considered a lock for a blue vote.

I never said otherwise.

 

[Rod1]

Yeah it turns out pissing people off is dangerous.

Works for Donald Trump

 

[essie]

Yup.


Who cares? Because Trump didn't win the popular vote by the widest margin ever doesn't mean he didn't win the popular vote. You guys need to move on from this already. There will be other elections.


312-226 isn't an electoral landslide? Okay bud. This is beyond pathetic at this point.

Move on? I'm not that worried about it just in my opinion it wasn't a landslide. I would say the last landslide was Obama 08 but maybe we have different standards, it's okay to agree to disagree here.

 

[Confucamus]

Trump only won by 1.5-2% of the vote against the worst Dem candidate in modern politics without a full season to campaign.

Not only is that nobody else's problem but hers, but as bad as she was she polled higher than Biden. It would have been an even more dominant Trump victory if Biden didn't back out.

Move on? I'm not that worried about it just in my opinion it wasn't a landslide. I would say the last landslide was Obama 08 but maybe we have different standards, it's okay to agree to disagree here.

Fine by me. Obama was definitely a landslide and I was happy he won in 08.

 

[Rational Poster]

Not only is that nobody else's problem but hers, but as bad as she was she polled higher than Biden. It would have been an even more dominant Trump victory if Biden didn't back out.


Fine by me. Obama was definitely a landslide and I was happy he won in 08.

Doesn't really change the point that Trump barely squeaked by the worst Dem candidate in our life.

I wasn't excusing her poor performance, I was using it to demonstrate how bad of a candidate she was that Trump barely beat.

 

[Confucamus]

Doesn't really change the point that Trump barely squeaked by the worst Dem candidate in our life.

"Barely squeaked by" using the popular vote as your evidence. We don't elect people via the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 but was still elected President. Tell me, using the same logic you use to judge how narrow Trump's win was, by what percentage did Trump win the 2016 election?

 

[Rational Poster]

"Barely squeaked by" using the popular vote as your evidence. We don't elect people via the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 but was still elected President. Tell me, using the same logic you use to judge how narrow Trump's win was, by what percentage did Trump win the 2016 election?

I wasn't using the popular vote, but the margin for victory in swing states.

 

[Confucamus]

I wasn't using the popular vote, but the margin for victory in swing states.

So what's the answer?

 

[Rational Poster]

So what's the answer?

What answer? Trump barely squeaked by Hillary as well, it was even tighter iirc.

It was a difference of like 30,000-40,000 votes split between 3 states that determined that election.

 

[essie]

Not only is that nobody else's problem but hers, but as bad as she was she polled higher than Biden. It would have been an even more dominant Trump victory if Biden didn't back out.


Fine by me. Obama was definitely a landslide and I was happy he won in 08.

Simpler times lol

 

[Mike]

Works for Donald Trump

We only ever got Trump because the Dems spent years trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they want an open border, the trans shit, and lying about how things are going for the poor and middle class.

 

[Mike]

Well, no. The dems lost for two reasons, both of which were pretty foolish, but their poor messaging on these fronts is pretty damable.

The first, and most important, is the economy. To the extent that anyone switched from voting D in 2020 to voting R in 2024, it was mostly because of that. I think that this was short sighted, given that even the most cursory research into Trump and Harris' respective stated economic policies would reveal that Trump is far worse, but given the choice between a status quo that wasn't working for most people and a radical change of course, it's no surprise that a lot of people chose the latter.

The second is Palestine. I don't think that too many people switched from Biden to Trump because of this (though there were undoubtedly some), Harris' support of Israel ABSOLUTELY served to suppress votes that otherwise would've gone to her. Again, I think that this was short sighted on the part of voters who stayed home because of this issue given that Trump is far worse, but the fact that Harris couldn't see this coming is pretty ridiculous.

I didn't even get into the economy that much in that post because half these people like to gaslight that the Dems "fixed" the economy and everything is fine comrades. But you'll see in my other posts I.bitch at length that the economy is most def not fine for the working class and we're smart enough that constantly lying to us about it pissed us off.


As far as the Palestine thing I bet more people are mad about aid money going to Israel and the Ukraine while things are in the state they're in here, over caring all that much about the genocide. But openly supporting and hand waving away genocide sure did make it hard for the Dems to look like the good guys in that situation. Trump is talking about ending the war so that's already better than what we were hearing from Dems on the issue.

 

[Daverisimo]

Trump is talking about ending the war so that's already better than what we were hearing from Dems on the issue.

Ending the war by ethnically cleansing Gaza and turning it into a golf course. K.

The dems had (and mostly still have) piss poor messaging on Palestine, but Trump and the Republicans are openly genocidal monsters.

 

[Mike]

Ending the war by ethnically cleansing Gaza and turning it into a golf course. K.

The dems had (and mostly still have) piss poor messaging on Palestine, but Trump and the Republicans are openly genocidal monsters.

Right but it's not america so all that most people care about is make the problem go away so we stop hearing about it and money stops getting spent on it. Sounds fucked up but we both know it's true.