Elections Trump's approval rating

[Kassitus]

Sorry, I’m not getting on any train that Trump wants me to get on.


It’s easy to be all “rah rah, Trump is the best” right now, he’s just doing a flurry of shit and the effects of that shit aren’t felt yet. We’ll see how his approval is once prices go up instead of down, the debt gets blown up again, and protections for workers are gutted.

Maybe he can bring the housing prices down but for everything else the MO will be keeping prices the same while wages increase. Nobody can reverse inflation.

 

[essie]

You shouldn't give up, but you should definitely pivot away from the current ultra progressive mindset the Dems have. The people got a taste of that, and they didn't like it. They were trying make common phrases like "Ladies and Gentlemen" offensive. That's just silly and one of a billion silly things that turned regular folks off.

It's not a secret that all the Dems have to do is drop the crazy uber-progressive nonsense, and they'll win more often than not. Whether or not they get that, remains to be seen.

I think if you look at what Dems were saying in Jan 21 it sounds so much like this. And the gop did not pivot they doubled down and won. I don’t know what the future holds but my politics will always be about inclusion and kindness and I think there is a big tent for that but maybe I’m wrong.

 

[Osculater]

You just named the two groups of people who love bad news more than anyone.

Check mate, Coleman.

Bring on the pain!!!!

 

[oldshadow]

You shouldn't give up, but you should definitely pivot away from the current ultra progressive mindset the Dems have. The people got a taste of that, and they didn't like it. They were trying make common phrases like "Ladies and Gentlemen" offensive. That's just silly and one of a billion silly things that turned regular folks off.

It's not a secret that all the Dems have to do is drop the crazy uber-progressive nonsense, and they'll win more often than not. Whether or not they get that, remains to be seen.

They think they didn't go far enough to the crazy left and they are going to double down.

Look at their reactions to what Trump is doing now.

Throwing fits about illegal aliens that are criminals being deported and fraud and waste being exposed.

 

[Fergelmince]

Trump in 2021 had a higher disapproval rating than Biden does now. I’m not skating past him winning the popular vote. Trump 24 and Trump 16 are the two most unpopular presidents at the start of their term. Trump won and there’s also 75 million people who voted against him. If you think republicans will hold office for the rest of time fair enough. Democrats were in the same if not a better spot four years ago and here we are. Enjoy the win.

Biden currently has the lowest of any living president, while Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president. the 75 million can just sit down because they are the minority to 78 million who voted for Trump, voted for a republican house, voted for a republican senate, and the thing that makes you guys lose your mind - enjoy a 6-3 majority in SCOTUS. Enjoy the delusion.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Trump is more popular this time than last. I think it is because of the team he surrounded himself with. Musk, Gabbord, RFK. RFK had a lot of fans, these 3 were big losses for the Dems. Also Biden bombed it bad at the end and Kamala wasn't liked. These two made Trump look better.

I think people have woken up to how fucking criminal the treatment the Dems and their cronies in the media gave him the first time around.

 

[HereticBD]

I think if you look at what Dems were saying in Jan 21 it sounds so much like this. And the gop did not pivot they doubled down and won.

Because they were fighting idiocy, and not common sense. It was also a weird time. Before the pandemic, Trump was poised to win re-election quite handily. He fucked up and was punished for it. Then the Dems fucked that up even worse than Trump did, and gave him a pass.

I don’t know what the future holds but my politics will always be about inclusion and kindness and I think there is a big tent for that but maybe I’m wrong.

You can still have a big tent, without inviting freaks along. I don't think I've ever asked you this, but what do you think of biological men being allowed to compete in women's sports and being housed in women's prisons and rape shelters? If you're welcoming to that, then you've gone too far. It's supporting incomprehensibly stupid shit like that, that has the Dems where they are right now.

You can have empathy for people, without welcoming obvious bad actors into your tent and trying to reconfigure society as we know it to appease them.

 

[essie]

Biden currently has the lowest of any living president, while Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president. the 75 million can just sit down because they are the minority to 78 million who voted for Trump, voted for a republican house, voted for a republican senate, and the thing that makes you guys lose your mind - enjoy a 6-3 majority in SCOTUS. Enjoy the delusion.

“while Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president.”

That’s just objectively not true. Trump’s approval right now is the second lowest of any incoming president only to his first term. Biden, Obama, Bush and so on all had higher approval ratings. These are just objective facts. As for sitting down cause we are the minority? Well Republicans wouldn’t even admit Biden was a legitimate president for his term so no we’re not sitting down.

 

[essie]

Because they were fighting idiocy, and not common sense. It was also a weird time. Before the pandemic, Trump was poised to win re-election quite handily. He fucked up and was punished for it. Then the Dems fucked that up even worse than Trump did, and gave him a pass.

You can still have a big tent, without inviting freaks along. I don't think I've ever asked you this, but what do you think of biological men being allowed to compete in women's sports and being housed in women's prisons and rape shelters? If you're welcoming to that, then you've gone too far. It's supporting incomprehensibly stupid shit like that, that has the Dems where they are right now.

You can have empathy for people, without welcoming obvious bad actors into your tent and trying to reconfigure society as we know it to appease them.

But you do know like I view what Trump is doing as idiocy and cruelty, right? We both think we have common sense. Look, you won. I’m not trying to take that away from you and I know it feels amazing to rub it in our faces. I’m hurting so much right now and all I’m trying to do is lend a small voice to the other side. I think democrats stopped listing to the other side and that helped in their loss.

I don’t mind answering about trans people but I’m wondering if you’re curious or going to dunk on me?

 

[Fergelmince]

“while Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president.”

That’s just objectively not true. Trump’s approval right now is the second lowest of any incoming president only to his first term. Biden, Obama, Bush and so on all had higher approval ratings. These are just objective facts. As for sitting down cause we are the minority? Well Republicans wouldn’t even admit Biden was a legitimate president for his term so no we’re not sitting down.

You keep playing the approval rating card but you keep forgetting who's in charge. You didn't win anything last November. The popular vote and electoral college went to Trump, republicans won the senate, congress and have a 6-3 majority in SCOTUS.

 

[essie]

You keep playing the approval rating card but you keep forgetting who's in charge. You didn't win anything last November. The popular vote and electoral college went to Trump, republicans won the senate, congress and have a 6-3 majority in SCOTUS.

I'm the one playing the approval rating card? This thread is titled "Trump's approval rating" and you said directly that "Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president.". What you said is not only wrong it's actually the exact opposite of the truth. I have never once said Trump didn't win. Unlike some people I have no problem admitting when my side loses an election.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[Fergelmince]

I'm the one playing the approval rating card? This thread is titled "Trump's approval rating" and you said directly that "Trump has a higher approval rating in the first month of his term than any president.". What you said is not only wrong it's actually the exact opposite of the truth. I have never once said Trump didn't win. Unlike some people I have no problem admitting when my side loses an election.

Are you saying polls are a better gauge of approval ratings than elections???

 

[HereticBD]

But you do know like I view what Trump is doing as idiocy and cruelty, right?

That's fine, but you must also understand that the opposing side thought the same about what your party of choice was doing.

Somebody got killed by an illegal immigrant? Oh' well. Let's worry about the damage this might do to the migrant community, and not the family of the person who was raped and tossed in a ditch. That's the Democrat brand of cruelty.

I don’t mind answering about trans people but I’m wondering if you’re curious or going to dunk on me?

Oh' c'mon. I'll be gentle. I'm just curious what you think. If you think that a man can be a woman just by saying so, and get afforded all the rights women have, then I'm just going to tell you that you're misguided and haven't figured out why people are turning against your political leanings.

It's about as viable as trying to argue that the Earth is flat. When Republicans/Conservatives are seriously suggesting that in congress, I'll let you know that they've jumped the shark.

 

[essie]

Are you saying polls are a better gauge of approval ratings than elections???

No but that is what the topic of the thread is. If want to go by elections Trump's victory is in the bottom half of mandate's.

 

[GhostZ06]

pretty sure this isn't true. In fact, I'm pretty sure on quality sources not trump fangirl sources he's utterly terrible in the polls and Americans fucking hate him.

 

[essie]

That's fine, but you must also understand that the opposing side thought the same about what your party of choice was doing.

Somebody got killed by an illegal immigrant? Oh' well. Let's worry about the damage this might do to the migrant community, and not the family of the person who was raped and tossed in a ditch. That's the Democrat brand of cruelty.

Oh' c'mon. I'll be gentle. I'm just curious what you think. If you think that a man can be a woman just by saying so, and get afforded all the rights women have, then I'm just going to tell you that you're misguided and haven't figured out why people are turning against your political leanings.

It's about as viable as trying to argue that the Earth is flat. When Republicans/Conservatives are seriously suggesting that in congress, I'll let you know that they've jumped the shark.

No I agree with you that both sides think they are acting in common sense and me and you are both extremely partisan so we probably aren't the best judges of who is right. I would say right now most (albeit not an overwhelming majority) would agree with you whereas in 2021 most would have agreed with me.

I don't know what you mean about women's rights? The ones that republicans are campaigning to take away, like our right to bodily autonomy? Or? Sorry, just bugs me when conservatives frame the trans debate as being about being pro women or pro women sports when they go out of their way to hate both of those things. But I also don't know genuinely what you mean about the rights women have? I think trans people deserve the same rights as anyone else. If you are asking specifically about sports I believe there are over 500k women athletes in the NCAA and 10 or fewer are trans. Do I want to make legislation to eradicate them? No, I don't. For lower levels I think trans girls should be allowed to play with the gender they identity with.

Do I forsee a scenario where trans women competing in cisgendered women sports becomes a problem? Not really but if it did I would be happy to handle it now, but I'm going to start from a place of kindness and inclusion and until it becomes a problem I'll side with that. I'll side with reducing the rates of suicide for trans kids by not alienating them and making them feel like freaks. Now I want to say I recognize on this your opinion is the majority, not mine. It is very effective politics for the right to fear monger about trans people. America is generally not pro trans but I also don't think they would agree with some of the abject cruelty that the right spews at them, but maybe I am naive.

As for flat earth I think maybe a better analogy is like denying climate change and vax science. Don't think flat earth is that popular but maybe I'm wrong. I hope I didn't say anything in this answer that was inflammatory, I'm really not trying to be hostile or fight.

 

[essie]

pretty sure this isn't true. In fact, I'm pretty sure on quality sources not trump fangirl sources he's utterly terrible in the polls and Americans fucking hate him.

Noted Trump fangirls CBS news.

 

[Fergelmince]

No but that is what the topic of the thread is. If want to go by elections Trump's victory is in the bottom half of mandate's.

Even you would take election wins over approval polls. But just to recap, Conservatives won elections for POTUS, congress, the senate, AND EVERY.SINGLE.SWING.STATE. Oh, and the gains in State legislatures.

 

[essie]

Even you would take election wins over approval polls. But just to recap, Conservatives won elections for POTUS, congress, the senate, AND EVERY.SINGLE.SWING.STATE. Oh, and the gains in State legislatures.

Yep, Biden won every single swing state in 2020 too. I've already said that Trump won. We are in a thread about approval ratings.