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Black folx be like, “can I renounce my citizenship and get some credit cards tho?”
International Trump's 2025 Immigration Plan - Mass Deportation and Giant Camps
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Please show me where I said that. Man, you're all over the place. You seem to just have these childish one liners you like to throw at anybody who makes you look bad, regardless if they're relevant or not. Seriously, you've done nothing but make yourself look stupider with each post. Take the L.
Why not both? I'm all about human rights, but where does a country's right to sovereignty come in? What about the rights of legal citizens? The wall is something the country needed, the left just argued against it because Trump said he'd build it. That's it. I really don't understand the level of tribalism it would take for me to criticize someone who proposes stronger border security.
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It shouldn't even be a question. If any American went down to Central America and committed crimes while attacking cops, we may never see the light of day again. What people are ignoring is the areas around the migrant shelters have turned into dangerous, loud and crime ridden areas. I pass by a few daily and it looks like you are in a 3rd world country. What Hochul ignores is that this is her fault for allowing it. The fact we are letting single young men without back round checks in at all is unbelievable.
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This is what is going t lose Biden the election. Hochul opened the city to Migrants, and is still ignoring the minorities in poor surrounding areas that need services like Homeless shelters, Drug addiction centers, elderly programs and assistance, as well as increased tech and police posts to help prevent gang violence and crime. Section 8 housing with heating issues, dilapidated parks that are now tent cities, unsafe public transit......but lets spend 100s of millions on unvetted migrants.
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Dunno if you saw any of the clips related to a community center in a black area of Boston being converted into a migrant shelter.
If not, listen to the last 30 seconds of this one (there were other videos). The woman basically says that white people in charge want black people in the streets being animals lol.
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Oh sh*t! Dr. Phil putting Biden and Harris on notice
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Sounds like January 6th but they aren't white so u mad
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If Joe Biden said those things you'd be singing a different tune.
You don't think Trump's promises here sounded authoritarian? I doubt the president has the power to even consider these measures but they're terrifying even at face value. Doesn't "weed out" sound a lot like "purge"?
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If you needed to wait 48-hours to try to slip the last word in, go ahead.
You're still an idiot for believing trump has any intention of pulling this off. And I'm sorry if pointing out his previous failure offends you.
And yes, a physical border wall would be much more simple to accomplish than what he's proposing now.
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Sorry I don't live on here, bud. Hope you understand. I never commented on whether or not I thought the wall would be finished. This is you, once again, pathetically backtracking and trying to divert attention away from your own stupid assertion that the wall was simple to build. Take the L and think before you speak next time.
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It's impossible imo. I don't think the resources are there and it's impossible to execute. This one is just talk. It may be his intention but will not get this done when in office imo.
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Sorry buddy, but I'm gonna stand by everything I said.
Trump failed on his promise to build a wall. Trump will fail with this immigration promise. And yes, wait for it, it would have been much more simple to build a physical wall than it would be to set up dozens of camps and deport hundreds of thousands.
Tell you what sport, you think this conversation was such a win for you, go ahead and print out all the back in forth and post it on your fridge.
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Good and he needs to go after the NGOs and fake charities that are supporting this invasion.
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Well, the bill was released.
As I predicted..and leaks indicated…it’s primarily a foreign aid bill with some open borders dog shit tacked on.
What’s funny is watching Lankford do damage control and try to explain on X how it’s actually quite restrictionist by using language that doesn’t exist in the bill itself….
…All while Chris Murphy is on his X feed doing an itemized run down on the bill that conradicts everything Lankford is saying.
This was always an Ukraine and Israel bill.
It was always a campaign ploy for Biden to try to pin his border crisis on Republicans by saying “he tried something, they wanted it to continue”
Of course there is a few cheap date America Last RINO’s that are more than willing to lend an assist.
I almost want house republicans to pass it so everybody can see how the invasion continues the same as it’s been the last 3 years. Unfortunately that would make them complicit and lead to a primary blood bath.
Not necessary. This is a Hail Mary by Democrats to gain some sort of advantage in the immigration debate but they really don’t have a prayer of pinning any of this on Republicans. Biden said surge the border, illegals have doubled under his administration, and many democrats tout open borders. Republicans will take their chances.
Interesting. We went from “the borders aren’t open” to the “border never closes”. Yay “bipartisanship”
As I predicted..and leaks indicated…it’s primarily a foreign aid bill with some open borders dog shit tacked on.
What’s funny is watching Lankford do damage control and try to explain on X how it’s actually quite restrictionist by using language that doesn’t exist in the bill itself….
…All while Chris Murphy is on his X feed doing an itemized run down on the bill that conradicts everything Lankford is saying.
This was always an Ukraine and Israel bill.
It was always a campaign ploy for Biden to try to pin his border crisis on Republicans by saying “he tried something, they wanted it to continue”
Of course there is a few cheap date America Last RINO’s that are more than willing to lend an assist.
I almost want house republicans to pass it so everybody can see how the invasion continues the same as it’s been the last 3 years. Unfortunately that would make them complicit and lead to a primary blood bath.
Not necessary. This is a Hail Mary by Democrats to gain some sort of advantage in the immigration debate but they really don’t have a prayer of pinning any of this on Republicans. Biden said surge the border, illegals have doubled under his administration, and many democrats tout open borders. Republicans will take their chances.
Interesting. We went from “the borders aren’t open” to the “border never closes”. Yay “bipartisanship”
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New York Times: What to Know About the Migrant Crisis in New York City
Over 100,000 migrants have arrived in the city over the last year. Why are they coming to New York? And what will happen to them next?
A homeless shelter caseworker, Astrild Siolkowski, 26, helps a Venezuelan migrant family who recently arrived in New York.Credit...Victor J. Blue for The New York Times
By Hurubie Meko
Dec. 6, 2023
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As of the beginning of December more than 150,100 migrants had arrived in New York City since the spring of 2022.
Officials have struggled to respond as people from all over the world have arrived, sometimes by the thousands each week. Many have sought shelter with the city, which has a legal obligation to give beds to anyone who asks. Last fall, the city’s homeless shelter population hit a record. It has only grown since then.
Mayor Eric Adams has called it a humanitarian crisis that will cost the city about $12 billion over three years. In the fall, he declared a state of emergency. In recent weeks, city officials have said they are running out of room.
The mayor has repeatedly asked the federal government — and has even traveled to Washington — for more funds and for expedited work authorizations for migrants, so they can become self-sufficient. He has said that President Biden has “failed” the city by not doing more.
“While New York City will continue to lead, it’s time the state and federal government step up,” Mr. Adams said at a recent news conference.
As the city struggles to respond, Mr. Adams has also begun to discourage migrants from seeking refuge in New York City. In early October, he traveled to Mexico, Ecuador and Colombia to meet with migrants and spread the message that New York City “has reached capacity.”
Economists said that Venezuela’s economic decline has been among the most drastic they have seen, other than in war. The country’s finances have teetered under an authoritarian socialist government. In 2019, the Trump administration also imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s state-owned oil company as a way to cripple the administration of President Nicolás Maduro — a strategy that was briefly eased under President Biden.
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About seven million Venezuelans have left home. While most stay in Latin America, more have set out for the United States in recent months.Credit...Federico Rios for The New York Times
The vast majority of Venezuelans are staying in other countries in Latin America and the Caribbean. But many have been making the long and dangerous trip to the United States in recent months. About 100 Venezuelans were apprehended annually at the border between 2015 and 2018. More than 150,000 were apprehended between October 2021 and the end of August 2022.
More recently, a large number of migrants have also been coming from countries in Africa. Some are also coming from China.
After crossing the southern border, thousands have made their way to New York with the help of officials in Texas. Gov. Greg Abbott has sent thousands in a campaign to provoke outrage and force the federal government to tighten border security. But Mr. Abbott’s buses account for only a small fraction of the people who have arrived; El Paso, a Democrat-led city, has also sent new arrivals to New York at the migrants’ request, officials there have said, and some people have made their own way.
More than 67,200 migrants were staying in city homeless shelters as of late November, according to city data. In total, 122,100 people were staying in homeless shelters across the city, officials said.
The city has proposed using a variety of locations as emergency housing for migrants. It has housed people in hotels, emergency tent shelters on Randall’s Island, school gymnasiums and office buildings and is now looking to new places, like the parking lot of a state psychiatric hospital.
Many of the proposals have been met with pushback from residents, and in some cases the city has retreated. At one point, Mr. Adams seriously considered housing migrants on cruise ships. In all, the city had opened more than 214 shelter sites, including 18 humanitarian relief centers, for asylum seekers by September.
As more and more migrants have arrived, Mr. Adams has changed his messaging and his approach to sheltering them.
He has asked a judge to relieve the city of some of its legal obligations under its unique “right to shelter” mandate. He used an executive order to suspend some of the requirements under the mandate this spring, in anticipation of an influx of new migrants.
What to Know About the Migrant Crisis in New York City
Over 100,000 migrants have arrived in the city over the last year. Why are they coming to New York? And what will happen to them next?
A homeless shelter caseworker, Astrild Siolkowski, 26, helps a Venezuelan migrant family who recently arrived in New York.Credit...Victor J. Blue for The New York Times
By Hurubie Meko
Dec. 6, 2023
Leer en español
As of the beginning of December more than 150,100 migrants had arrived in New York City since the spring of 2022.
Officials have struggled to respond as people from all over the world have arrived, sometimes by the thousands each week. Many have sought shelter with the city, which has a legal obligation to give beds to anyone who asks. Last fall, the city’s homeless shelter population hit a record. It has only grown since then.
Mayor Eric Adams has called it a humanitarian crisis that will cost the city about $12 billion over three years. In the fall, he declared a state of emergency. In recent weeks, city officials have said they are running out of room.
The mayor has repeatedly asked the federal government — and has even traveled to Washington — for more funds and for expedited work authorizations for migrants, so they can become self-sufficient. He has said that President Biden has “failed” the city by not doing more.
“While New York City will continue to lead, it’s time the state and federal government step up,” Mr. Adams said at a recent news conference.
As the city struggles to respond, Mr. Adams has also begun to discourage migrants from seeking refuge in New York City. In early October, he traveled to Mexico, Ecuador and Colombia to meet with migrants and spread the message that New York City “has reached capacity.”
Why are large numbers of migrants coming to New York City now?
Many arrivals to New York City last year were Venezuelans who had entered through the southern border. More than seven million refugees and migrants had left Venezuela, a country of 29 million people, as of February, according to Response for Venezuelans, a joint effort between the International Organization for Migration and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. It’s the second largest external displacement crisis in the world, according to the U.N. commission.Economists said that Venezuela’s economic decline has been among the most drastic they have seen, other than in war. The country’s finances have teetered under an authoritarian socialist government. In 2019, the Trump administration also imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s state-owned oil company as a way to cripple the administration of President Nicolás Maduro — a strategy that was briefly eased under President Biden.
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About seven million Venezuelans have left home. While most stay in Latin America, more have set out for the United States in recent months.Credit...Federico Rios for The New York Times
The vast majority of Venezuelans are staying in other countries in Latin America and the Caribbean. But many have been making the long and dangerous trip to the United States in recent months. About 100 Venezuelans were apprehended annually at the border between 2015 and 2018. More than 150,000 were apprehended between October 2021 and the end of August 2022.
More recently, a large number of migrants have also been coming from countries in Africa. Some are also coming from China.
After crossing the southern border, thousands have made their way to New York with the help of officials in Texas. Gov. Greg Abbott has sent thousands in a campaign to provoke outrage and force the federal government to tighten border security. But Mr. Abbott’s buses account for only a small fraction of the people who have arrived; El Paso, a Democrat-led city, has also sent new arrivals to New York at the migrants’ request, officials there have said, and some people have made their own way.
How is the city responding?
The city transformed a former hotel in midtown into a migrant intake center and created a new agency to help coordinate their arrivals, but the city’s response has, at times, been fragmented and reactive as the shelter system has become more strained.More than 67,200 migrants were staying in city homeless shelters as of late November, according to city data. In total, 122,100 people were staying in homeless shelters across the city, officials said.
The city has proposed using a variety of locations as emergency housing for migrants. It has housed people in hotels, emergency tent shelters on Randall’s Island, school gymnasiums and office buildings and is now looking to new places, like the parking lot of a state psychiatric hospital.
Many of the proposals have been met with pushback from residents, and in some cases the city has retreated. At one point, Mr. Adams seriously considered housing migrants on cruise ships. In all, the city had opened more than 214 shelter sites, including 18 humanitarian relief centers, for asylum seekers by September.
As more and more migrants have arrived, Mr. Adams has changed his messaging and his approach to sheltering them.
He has asked a judge to relieve the city of some of its legal obligations under its unique “right to shelter” mandate. He used an executive order to suspend some of the requirements under the mandate this spring, in anticipation of an influx of new migrants.
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Volunteer groups and city workers have met new arrivals at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, in an effort to connect them with services and shelter.Credit...Dakota Santiago for The New York Times
The mayor has also instituted a rule requiring single adult migrants to reapply for shelter every 30 days. Families with children will now have to reapply after 60 days to remain in shelters.
This summer, dozens of men, many from Africa, slept on the sidewalk outside an intake center in Manhattan after officials said the shelters were at capacity.
In recent months, the Adams administration has discouraged migrants from coming, distributing fliers at the southern border telling them that there is “no guarantee” they will receive shelter or services.
“Housing in N.Y.C. is very expensive,” the fliers said. “Please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the U.S.”
The city has also helped migrants leave the city for other counties in New York, angering some officials in other parts of the state. As Mr. Adams toured Latin America, many migrants on his route said they would continue their journeys on toward the United States and New York anyway, despite his warnings.
Gov. Kathy Hochul has said that she would ask the State Legislature to allocate $1 billion in the next budget to help the city. The state has already given $1 billion, she said, and is paying for the new tent shelter on Randall’s Island.
The city’s spending has sometimes come under scrutiny.
DocGo, a medical services firm that once contracted with the city to provide Covid testing and vaccinations, has moved hundreds of migrants outside the city under a no-bid $432 million contract. The contract called for the group to house migrants and to provide them with food and services like case management, transportation and round-the-clock security. But migrants have said they were lied to and that representatives of the company gave them documents that falsely claimed they were eligible to work.
Between March and May of this year, nearly 39,000 new immigration court cases were filed in New York City. Applicants can apply for temporary employment authorization 150 days after successfully filing an asylum application, but are not eligible to receive a work document until then.
The city employs caseworkers to connect with newly arrived asylum seekers and help them enroll their children in school and find immigration lawyers. And in June, Mr. Adams announced the creation of the Asylum Application Help Center to bring together immigration legal service providers and pro bono lawyers and to serve thousands of asylum seekers.
By mid-October, the teams at the help center had helped complete more than 5,600 applications, according to officials.
Since the Biden administration announced it would grant work permits to hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants who had already entered the United States in September, about 2,000 people in New York have filed work permit applications.
The city’s help center has assisted 300 eligible people with applications, officials said, and more than 1,700 applications were filed between late September and early October at a clinic run by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the city, state and nonprofits. There are an estimated 15,000 eligible people in the city.
But even as migrants have applied for asylum in record numbers, advocates and immigration lawyers say that without additional legal support, many — perhaps the majority — will miss their application deadline and fall into a more perilous category of immigrant: the undocumented.
Already, many new arrivals in New York have found jobs in the underground economy and joined the existing pool of undocumented workers, where they remain vulnerable to deportation and exploitation.
Emma G. Fitzsimmons, Juan B. Garcia, Jasmine Sheena , Téa Kvetenadze , Jeffery C. Mays and Andy Newman contributed reporting.
Volunteer groups and city workers have met new arrivals at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, in an effort to connect them with services and shelter.Credit...Dakota Santiago for The New York Times
The mayor has also instituted a rule requiring single adult migrants to reapply for shelter every 30 days. Families with children will now have to reapply after 60 days to remain in shelters.
This summer, dozens of men, many from Africa, slept on the sidewalk outside an intake center in Manhattan after officials said the shelters were at capacity.
In recent months, the Adams administration has discouraged migrants from coming, distributing fliers at the southern border telling them that there is “no guarantee” they will receive shelter or services.
“Housing in N.Y.C. is very expensive,” the fliers said. “Please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the U.S.”
The city has also helped migrants leave the city for other counties in New York, angering some officials in other parts of the state. As Mr. Adams toured Latin America, many migrants on his route said they would continue their journeys on toward the United States and New York anyway, despite his warnings.
How much is caring for migrants costing the city?
The city has estimated that it would spend about $5 billion this fiscal year to house and feed migrants. Mr. Adams has said the cost would exceed $12 billion over the next three years, if migrants continued to arrive at the same rate.Gov. Kathy Hochul has said that she would ask the State Legislature to allocate $1 billion in the next budget to help the city. The state has already given $1 billion, she said, and is paying for the new tent shelter on Randall’s Island.
The city’s spending has sometimes come under scrutiny.
DocGo, a medical services firm that once contracted with the city to provide Covid testing and vaccinations, has moved hundreds of migrants outside the city under a no-bid $432 million contract. The contract called for the group to house migrants and to provide them with food and services like case management, transportation and round-the-clock security. But migrants have said they were lied to and that representatives of the company gave them documents that falsely claimed they were eligible to work.
What will happen to the migrants next?
Many migrants have said they are pursuing asylum. But it can take three to four years before a final decision is made in asylum cases, which are often complicated and plagued by delays.Between March and May of this year, nearly 39,000 new immigration court cases were filed in New York City. Applicants can apply for temporary employment authorization 150 days after successfully filing an asylum application, but are not eligible to receive a work document until then.
The city employs caseworkers to connect with newly arrived asylum seekers and help them enroll their children in school and find immigration lawyers. And in June, Mr. Adams announced the creation of the Asylum Application Help Center to bring together immigration legal service providers and pro bono lawyers and to serve thousands of asylum seekers.
By mid-October, the teams at the help center had helped complete more than 5,600 applications, according to officials.
Since the Biden administration announced it would grant work permits to hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants who had already entered the United States in September, about 2,000 people in New York have filed work permit applications.
The city’s help center has assisted 300 eligible people with applications, officials said, and more than 1,700 applications were filed between late September and early October at a clinic run by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the city, state and nonprofits. There are an estimated 15,000 eligible people in the city.
But even as migrants have applied for asylum in record numbers, advocates and immigration lawyers say that without additional legal support, many — perhaps the majority — will miss their application deadline and fall into a more perilous category of immigrant: the undocumented.
Already, many new arrivals in New York have found jobs in the underground economy and joined the existing pool of undocumented workers, where they remain vulnerable to deportation and exploitation.
Emma G. Fitzsimmons, Juan B. Garcia, Jasmine Sheena , Téa Kvetenadze , Jeffery C. Mays and Andy Newman contributed reporting.
