Trumpites, please explain how Trump can win

[Thunderflash500]

What a horrible analogy. Bigly horrible.

Not really. It's pretty spot on. You can have double the amount of pieces, it doesn't matter if you're in checkmate.

 

[HomerThompson]

I know, a lot of liberals are practicing unnecessary self-shame right now. Pretty lame.

They're the smart ones, who are trying to separate themselves from the loons like yourself. It's what most Libs should be doing, if they ever want to see their team in the White House again.

Let's just say you're both wrong. Merry Christmas!

 

[Jack V Savage]

The crux of the election was the white working class, particularly in the rust belt. I'm tired of the baseless assertion of "PC has run amok, version #865" acting as confirmation bias.

Yeah, people can write their 2020 posts with that. "If only (losing party) had shared my greatest concerns and policy preferences, they would have won."

 

[Fawlty]

Let's just say you're both wrong. Merry Christmas!

bah humbug

 

[Jack V Savage]

When I'm looking at that swing, I don't think of it in terms of being a photo finish, as priors suggest she had a small but decent lead across those states. So rather than any small factor making the difference in a coin flip, to me it's more about the 2-3% pull away from the democrats that happened in each state. Your opinion of the Comey circus being the factor that pushed the line down seems reasonable and I've heard it from several people who know a lot more than I do, but it's not clear whether that impact had more to do with the news itself, or low confidence in Clinton, as she was quite vulnerable. Maybe the conditions that caused her vulnerability are more important.

Could be.

The problem with trying to understand politics is that there is so much information and so few tests that you can justify almost any take if you try hard enough, and anyway everyone has an opinion and few even feel the need to justify them.

 

[Fawlty]

Could be.

The problem with trying to understand politics is that there is so much information and so few tests that you can justify almost any take if you try hard enough, and anyway everyone has an opinion and few even feel the need to justify them.

I agree super strongly with the uncertainty. I genuinely wonder, if we conducted a presidential election at noon, and then another at noon the next day, would there be 1-2% swings or would it look nearly the same? This is unclear. And the large number of undecided voters this year complicates it even more. I felt like the 2012 election was really straightforward by comparison, but I didn't know as much back then and might have gotten lucky.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I agree super strongly with the uncertainty. I genuinely wonder, if we conducted a presidential election at noon, and then another at noon the next day, would there be 1-2% swings or would it look nearly the same? This is unclear. And the large number of undecided voters this year complicates it even more. I felt like the 2012 election was really straightforward by comparison, but I didn't know as much back then and might have gotten lucky.

I very much suspect that what you speculate on is true, but like you say, it's unclear and there's no real way to know.

The thing about 2012 is that the polling error (again bigger than it was in 2016) was in the direction of the guy expected to win so the election didn't cause anyone to feel like they needed to question anything (expect the people who fell for the "skewed polls" CT).

 

[RhinoRush]

Yeah, that's pretty much the opposite of my thinking, but it would be better than the current system, which is supposed to be democratic but allows for quirky outcomes that reflect neither the will of the people nor the preferences of the best.

lmao. Keep living in your bubble JVS.

 

[Eazy123]

Oh, wow.

I love threads like this.

Can't eat all that crow in one sitting. Better get a doggy bag.

 

[BOWHUNTER]

Trump is the anti-establishment voice. People are seriously sick of the Clintons and the Bush's.

The masses will come out in droves to vote for him. He is a lock as far as Im concerned to be POTUS. Hillary is a total lying cunt, and everyone knows it. It's a vote between more of the same fucking bullshit, or something different, not sure in reality what that difference will be but if iots somehow worse then teh status quo, it's only 4 years of it.

I am in it for the lulz, and teh Tostito's wall lmao.

March 2 truth bomb!!!! Daddy did it

 

[BOWHUNTER]

No, they won't. They already haven't. He can't even win a single majority within the GOP.

Then you should simply draw us the board showing the tally, Mr. Russert.

Brah what happened? did the masses come out on droves to vote for Daddy? admit it he is your Daddy. Daddy loves you do not fight it

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You're an idiot.


If you don't realize we don't live in a democracy, they you have no right to talk about the electoral college.

I'm taking the broadest definition of democracy.

You're one of the morans that latches on to the one thing you learned in PolySci 1300 and goes on 30-page debates about whether we're in a democracy vs a republic vs a constitutional republic, etc. I'm not interested in that sort of argument.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Yes, which is kinda silly when you call the basic rules a technicality. The EC isn't some obscure rule trotted out in some trick play. It's the name of the game. Bemoaning it after the fact is just sour grapes.

Well, I've been bemoaning it since 2000.

And the only reason people weren't bemoaning it before then was because the EC win almost always coincided with the popular vote. Everyone has an inner sense of fairness.

The larger point of my post is that gloating about winning via a method that NO ONE was anticipating on winning by (I heard exactly zero Trumpeters saying they'll win the EC but lose the PV-) is pretty pathetic.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

You vote for JDrag and this is what you get--LOSER MENTALITY.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Winning on a technicality. Exactly my point.

Pissum Jenkins, the epitome of SORE LOSER. Look son, Hillary lost, the left is obsolete. All your self hating white friends, all your BLM thuggies, all your SJW and cucklords out there going the way of the Dodo. Who the fuck wants to pander to a bunch of circus freaks? LOL.

It's time for you to broaden your horizons and get out of your bubble. Your life of hate has always clouded your judgement. The Electoral College is the way we decide. Not all the overpopulated retards in California. HILLARY LOST, YOU LOST, SUCK IT UP.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

hilarious thread, people bringing up past elections when the PV didn't match the Electoral college, like this margin of victory was staggeringly higher....

uh the population is like 20x higher than it was for Hayes/Tilden, not sure if serious