Economy Trump vs. Musk

BluntForceTrama said:
Not at all. Cutting to the chase to avoid wasting time with someone like you….Merely pointing out what’s really important.

See that’s what’s wrong with technicals like yourself tend to miss. You don’t keep your eye on the ball. You can’t see the forest through the trees. You don’t get nuance.

You don’t get what’s important here And thats why you don’t get it. You neglect the mindset that Trump caters to. And I can assure you it’s much wider and larger than the technicals.
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It's not even technical knowledge, it's you literally don't understand who is who in that industry.

So again, what does Musk bring to the AI game that other companies can't do?
 
avenue94 said:
It's not even technical knowledge, it's you literally don't understand who is who in that industry.

So again, what does Musk bring to the AI game that other companies can't do?
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Raw power, neural networks, physical AI

this is not only argued, but proven, Tesla's full self driving is using vision only, and the neural nets is the reason why it's superior to all others, and the core of it is mimmicking human behavior and that transfers to humanoid robots. Elon is the only person in the AI sphere that has merged AI with physical products like robotics and driving, and humanoid is going to be the next big thing.
 
avenue94 said:
It's not even technical knowledge, it's you literally don't understand who is who in that industry.

So again, what does Musk bring to the AI game that other companies can't do?
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You’re as sharp as a bowling ball lol
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koquerelle said:
for my sherbro @LeonardoBjj
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- Is that Red Forman? Dude carried that awful That's 70's on his shoulders.
 
chardog said:
Raw power, neural networks, physical AI
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Outside of neural networks, they don't build either of the two. That's what ODMs are for. You are aware data center owners don't actually design or build their own racks or GPUs right? At most they codesign some and tweak ODM designs.

And a sovereign customer is more likely to want to develop their own models since that's kind of the point of being sovereign, to not rely on other countries.
chardog said:
this is not only argued, but proven, Tesla's full self driving is using vision only,
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And yet Tesla is lagging behind in FSD because vision only is heavily limited.
chardog said:
and the core of it is mimmicking human behavior and that transfers to humanoid robots.
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Tesla has yet to demonstrate anything groundbreaking here. Hence their "robots" were controlled by humans during their announcement. No point in betting on what's currently vaporware from a company that routinely overpromises and underdelivers.
BluntForceTrama said:
You’re as sharp as a bowling ball lol
<{Heymansnicker}>
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Says the guy who can't even describe one thing that Musk does uniquely in AI and is onyl repeating "just trust me bro, it's too complex to explain"
 
Why is the Trump administration being so shady on Epstein hmmm....

Pam blondi kash patel Dan bongino suddenly changing their tunes? I wonder why.

 
avenue94 said:
Outside of neural networks, they don't build either of the two. That's what ODMs are for. You are aware data center owners don't actually design or build their own racks or GPUs right? At most they codesign some and tweak ODM designs.
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the neural networks are everything, lidar and vision are nothing without them.
avenue94 said:
And a sovereign customer is more likely to want to develop their own models since that's kind of the point of being sovereign, to not rely on other countries.

And yet Tesla is lagging behind in FSD because vision only is heavily limited.
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this is where people heavily underestimate elon's first principles. Waymo has gone absolutely nowhere fast, they are geofenced, unscalable models. Elon is the godfather of electric vehicles in china (hence hated by Bannon), he pioneered the system in china and changed it forever, and stuck to his first principles regarding vision vs waymo.

straight from the chinaman, the next best driving systems:


Tesla is a generation ahead, and he got that conclusion by riding a cybertruck in who knows how old of a software version, many new iterations have gone through the months that have improved greatly.

vision alone is an advantage, less complexity to develop faster, it's the bare minimum needed, first principles..... even the chinese are figuring that elon was right all along, and because they were focused on Lidar, Tesla has an insurmountable lead, so Xpeng has decided to go vision only approach. Xpeng, Huawei, they would absolutely crush all other manufacturers in self driving, with the exception of Tesla, which inspired the entire chinese market.





Tesla is ahead, lol @ lagging behind, name the brands that beats it.

avenue94 said:
Tesla has yet to demonstrate anything groundbreaking here. Hence their "robots" were controlled by humans during their announcement. No point in betting on what's currently vaporware from a company that routinely overpromises and underdelivers.

Says the guy who can't even describe one thing that Musk does uniquely in AI and is onyl repeating "just trust me bro, it's too complex to explain"
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it may take a while, and promises may be delayed, 2019 was when I ordered the cybertruck, I got it eventually..... but you must have forgot

elon has brought science fiction to life before


ford, GM, VW, BMW, MBZ, Toyota, Honda, they're all at least a decade behind at this point and the lead is only growing for Tesla, once you can turn your EXISTING vehicle into a money making robotaxi, things are going to change big time, when liabilities turn into assets. We're only six days away from finding out if it's vaporware or not.
 
Trump the master, keeping calm. Take some meds Elon and then go back to defeating the woke mass formation psychosis that is the left/democrats

 
MrShady said:
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I know people like to dump on Joe Rogan as a science bro without real knowledge, but what mainstream media is reporting about Epstein's hyoid bone?

This segment, which you have helpfully provided, shows conclusively that Patel is incompetent in concluding that Epstein committed suicide. Here is a longer clip with a transcript:

Do you remember that HBO autopsy show Dr Michael Baden He's a famous forensic I don't think I scientist So uh he's a pathologist and he reviewed the case and it was his determination that it was a homicide because of the way his neck was broken Mhm And what he said was it was indicative of a liature strangulation and it was because of the positioning on the neck where the marks were that it wasn't indicative of someone hanging by their weight which had been higher on
the chin and there's a specific break of the bones and the vertebrae that's consistent with someone who is just strangled to death
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The private pathologist Dr Michael Baden said of the morning TV show Fox and Friends Mr Epstein experienced a number of injuries among them a broken bone in his neck that are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation I think the evidence points to rather than suicide said Dr Baden who observed the autopsy done by city officials Dr Baden a former New York City medical examination and a Fox News contributor said "I have not seen in 50 years where that occurred in suicidal hanging case." Uh findings by Dr Baden were strongly disputed by the city's chief medical examiner Dr Barbara Samson who previously ruled that Mr Ebs's death on August 10th in the Metropolitan Correctional Center was a suicide I stand firmly behind our determination of the cause and manner of death in this case Dr Samson said in the interview on Wednesday she added "In general fractures of the hyoid bone and cartilage can be seen in suicides and homicides The hyoid bone is near the Adam's apple."

Joe Rogan makes an error in confusing the hyoid bone with a neck vertebra (hyoid bone is in the front and unattached to vertebrae in the back). A hyoid bone fracture is more consistent with homicidal manual strangulation (or less likely ligature) than with suicidal hanging. From: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/forensicsasphyxia.html
Hyoid bone:
There is a break of the vertebra, called a hangman's fracture, that would be consistent with old-style trapdoor execution hanging. From: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/forensicsasphyxia.html
  • Judicial hanging: modality of public execution for capital crimes

From Patel's response, it looks like Patel has never heard of the hyoid bone, which means that he has concluded suicide without considering the relevant information.

Joe Rogan did a better job than CNN, NBC, Fox, etc.
 
gatchaman said:
I know people like to dump on Joe Rogan as a science bro without real knowledge, but what mainstream media is reporting about Epstein's hyoid bone?

This segment, which you have helpfully provided, shows conclusively that Patel is incompetent in concluding that Epstein committed suicide. Here is a longer clip with a transcript:

Do you remember that HBO autopsy show Dr Michael Baden He's a famous forensic I don't think I scientist So uh he's a pathologist and he reviewed the case and it was his determination that it was a homicide because of the way his neck was broken Mhm And what he said was it was indicative of a liature strangulation and it was because of the positioning on the neck where the marks were that it wasn't indicative of someone hanging by their weight which had been higher on
the chin and there's a specific break of the bones and the vertebrae that's consistent with someone who is just strangled to death
...
The private pathologist Dr Michael Baden said of the morning TV show Fox and Friends Mr Epstein experienced a number of injuries among them a broken bone in his neck that are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation I think the evidence points to rather than suicide said Dr Baden who observed the autopsy done by city officials Dr Baden a former New York City medical examination and a Fox News contributor said "I have not seen in 50 years where that occurred in suicidal hanging case." Uh findings by Dr Baden were strongly disputed by the city's chief medical examiner Dr Barbara Samson who previously ruled that Mr Ebs's death on August 10th in the Metropolitan Correctional Center was a suicide I stand firmly behind our determination of the cause and manner of death in this case Dr Samson said in the interview on Wednesday she added "In general fractures of the hyoid bone and cartilage can be seen in suicides and homicides The hyoid bone is near the Adam's apple."

Joe Rogan makes an error in confusing the hyoid bone with a neck vertebra (hyoid bone is in the front and unattached to vertebrae in the back). A hyoid bone fracture is more consistent with homicidal manual strangulation (or less likely ligature) than with suicidal hanging. From: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/forensicsasphyxia.html
Hyoid bone:
There is a break of the vertebra, called a hangman's fracture, that would be consistent with old-style trapdoor execution hanging. From: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/forensicsasphyxia.html
  • Judicial hanging: modality of public execution for capital crimes

From Patel's response, it looks like Patel has never heard of the hyoid bone, which means that he has concluded suicide without considering the relevant information.

Joe Rogan did a better job than CNN, NBC, Fox, etc.
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But he still carries water for this administration and at the end of the podcast glazed Kash it was hard to watch.

The Joe Rogan that actually questions and holds people to account for their claims (for example when Candace Owens was on and he absolutely made her look ridiculous) is long gone
 
Confucamus said:
If true, they could have leaked just the stuff about Trump. There would be no worry of mutually assured destruction, as Trump would not have won if it came out that he was banging kids on Epstein's island. Democrats did everything they could to prevent Trump from winning. Weaponizing the DOJ against him, trying to get his name removed from state ballots, etc. They absolutely would have released incriminating evidence against Trump if there was any in there.
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You know good and well if they had leaked a heavily redacted set of documents, or just those containing the Trump name, there'd have been a firestorm.
 
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