Trump/Ukraine v15: +++WOW+++Donald Trump Bribery Scandal Intensifies

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I just can't shut off the common sense that saw Joe Biden bragging about withholding aid (which actually happens all the time) and doing exactly what Dems are accusing Trump of, but the dems saying Trump can't demand he be investigated, or even throw it out casually in an nonthreatening phone call with somebody in a position to do it.

I am not interested at this time in the crowd-strike servers. I do think Trump has a certain level of authority as the elected President, and that a complete undermining of it is unnecessary. I keep hearing leftists around here reading the same script that has the word "debunked" in it and on a couple occasions I'm pretty sure it was used incorrectly. About this issue I'm not sure.

Except what he did isn't exactly what Trump did. Biden withholding aid was the official US policy at the time. Shokin's firing was what the US deemed to be in their national interest and by the US, I mean Obama's administration as well as Congress. Now if you want to show where Burisma being investigated AGAIN was what Congress wanted, I'll concede that those two are EXACTLY the same thing. If you wanted to investigate Biden (either one) it should be done on the US side of things. I seriously doubt either committed crimes in the Ukraine, the most likely crimes to have been committed would have been in the United States. I guess you just want Biden continuously investigated till you get the results you want.

I don't use words incorrectly, and I'm guessing you can clearly see how that crowdstrike server is a personal benefit to Trump...because there's no way he could legally access the contents of it without the DNC's permission.
 
Except what he did isn't exactly what Trump did. Biden withholding aid was the official US policy at the time. Shokin's firing was what the US deemed to be in their national interest and by the US, I mean Obama's administration as well as Congress. Now if you want to show where Burisma being investigated AGAIN was what Congress wanted, I'll concede that those two are EXACTLY the same thing. If you wanted to investigate Biden (either one) it should be done on the US side of things. I seriously doubt either committed crimes in the Ukraine, the most likely crimes to have been committed would have been in the United States. I guess you just want Biden continuously investigated till you get the results you want.

I don't use words incorrectly, and I'm guessing you can clearly see how that crowdstrike server is a personal benefit to Trump...because there's no way he could legally access the contents of it without the DNC's permission.
The witnesses said Trump sent out emails indicating what his intentions were. People voted for Trump because he wanted to change foreign policy. This feels as much like Trump changing establishment policy being treated like a crime as anything.
 
All those nothing burgers added up to an impeachment inquiry and this latest one might tip the scales.

The democrats lost 10 points yesterday, today they gained 30

They now have the energy to push obstruction, extortion, and get Trump and Giuliani In front of a mic


So you admit that it was all a series of nothing burgers.

BTW impeachment is no big accomplishment. It's a political action and all it takes is the votes. They could have done it after the midterms but they wanted it closer to the election because that stable of left wing commies can't win.
 
It's very unhealthy to be so consumed by another person on the internet that you go back and look at their posting history so extensively. That's borderline stalkerish behavior and you should see a psychiatrist about that. Just quick math let's me know that you went through at least 3,240 posts of his.....weird as fuck.

Not really.... All you have to do is hover over the name and check all posts. It only takes a second, but heaven forbid I criticize somebody that's on the same team as you.

I was just curious because his posts were littered all over every War Room thread I looked at and he was starting shit with a lot of people.

Some of it was actually kind of funny, but reporting people on a forum like this is petty, unless it's spam, scat porn, or something to that effect.
 
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Today will surely be a good day for Trump.

Today he will be exonerated
 
It is by now very clear what the deal was and that trump's people were up to their asses in crooked shit
 
The President using the most powerful position in the world to leverage personal gain is antithetical to the rule of law. There is no greater corruption possible. Abuse of power of the highest order.
... over an ally, whose position is dependent, for a domestic political favor
 
Well, at least this shitshow helped divert some attention from the democratic debates. All of those powerful leaders on one stage is more than the public can handle.
 
Hill going to accuse Republicans of spreading putin propaganda
 
Looks like Trump is finally taking Mitch's advice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/21/donald-trump-impeachment-republican-establishment-072227

President Donald Trump is aggressively courting Senate Republicans as impeachment bears down, and on Thursday, he'll come face to face with two of the most unpredictable jurors in any Senate trial: Mitt Romney and Susan Collins.

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Romney has said it would be “wrong and appalling” for Trump to request foreign countries to dig up dirt on Joe Biden, prompting Trump to call Romney a “pompous ass.” But the Utah Republican seemed to be keeping an open mind heading into the meeting, even if impeachment comes up.

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“It’s the president’s meeting. Whatever he wants to talk about, he can talk about,” Romney said. “I wasn’t expecting an invitation, but I’m happy to hear what the president wants to talk about.”

A separate group of Republican senators, including Mike Lee of Utah, will meet with White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the matter. Cipollone is regarded by Senate Republicans as the chief impeachment strategist at the White House and the meeting is likely to include some discussion of the forthcoming Senate trial that will occur if the House impeaches Trump.
 
They are really going to need bolton or rudy
 
So apparently Nunes is deeper in this than just partisan political dependence.. he actually worked with Parnas in 2018 too according to Parnas' lawyer. Small world huh?
 
So apparently Nunes is deeper in this than just partisan political dependence.. he actually worked with Parnas in 2018 too. Weird.
Early in the going, I thought Pence was clean and would be a good replacement.
Most of them are besmirched now.
 
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