Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

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Myself as well.
In an insane world, voting for a lunatic might be the sanest choice.

And endlessly entertaining.
yeah we are at a phase where Greg Stillson still gets elected even after what he has done near the end of the movie
 
Some democrat politicians did turn a bit on Obama during the debates to hit at Biden, that is true. But I was referring to the voters and the democrat base in my initial post, in general the democrat voters still stand behind Obama and do regret voting for him. Same cannot be said of republicans and Bush.

Loads of posters here disavow him now on his immigration policy.
 
yeah we are at a phase where Greg Stillson still gets elected even after what has done near the end of the movie
I've been thinking about what the real problem underlying all of this might be, and I think it's a lack of emotional maturity in today's adults.
Bitching and complaining, especially about the fact that others bitch and complain.

Everybody whining about how the other guy is a whiner.
 
Trump has now knocked Biden out. Bernie is toast, but let's hope he is healthy and happy. That leaves the Mother In Law candidate that Trump actually wanted to run against. Liz Warren, the Mother-In-Law you pray you never have.... 2020!!!

3 D Chess???
 
So the best course of action is to have the President and his political appointees make demands that a country open an already closed investigation with the understanding there is a reward in it for them? We have a term for this. Also, in the US our legal system doesn’t appreciate endless investigations of the same person unless new information is presented. Trump and his ilk have not provided Ukraine with anything new.

Actually, yes they have.

  • A new audio tape of Ukrainian Officials discussing how they helped Hillary Clinton was released last night. I'll bet the MSM didn't cover it.
  • A new sworn testimony by the Ukrainian Prosecutor and 3 other Prosecutors on how they were fired for investigating Hunter Biden.

These are new things.

The real problem is that we no longer have a "Free Press". Where is CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times? Why were they not at Hunter Biden's doorstep waiting for an interview or quote over a year ago? Why are they not there now? Why have they not questioned Chinese Officials on the $1.5 Billion deal Hunter struck with them.

Also, where is the reporting that Joe Biden was REQUIRED to disclose any foreign deals made by his family that MIGHT have a conflict of interest with his office? That is the requirement "might".

Joe Biden sold his office. Trump forced the press to mention it and made it a focus. He just eliminated Joe Biden. Joe Biden wanted to "go behind the barn and fight Trump". Well, Trump just handed him his ass and walked away laughing.
 
Actually, yes they have.

  • A new audio tape of Ukrainian Officials discussing how they helped Hillary Clinton was released last night. I'll bet the MSM didn't cover it.
  • A new sworn testimony by the Ukrainian Prosecutor and 3 other Prosecutors on how they were fired for investigating Hunter Biden.

These are new things.

The real problem is that we no longer have a "Free Press". Where is CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times? Why were they not at Hunter Biden's doorstep waiting for an interview or quote over a year ago? Why are they not there now? Why have they not questioned Chinese Officials on the $1.5 Billion deal Hunter struck with them.

Also, where is the reporting that Joe Biden was REQUIRED to disclose any foreign deals made by his family that MIGHT have a conflict of interest with his office? That is the requirement "might".

Joe Biden sold his office. Trump forced the press to mention it and made it a focus. He just eliminated Joe Biden. Joe Biden wanted to "go behind the barn and fight Trump". Well, Trump just handed him his ass and walked away laughing.

Still looking pretty bad for your boy Trump. If Biden goes down in flames because of this then so be it.
 
Trump isn’t going anywhere!

He’s got God on his side. He’s the greatest POTUS there’s ever been.

I pray he will get term after term after term
 
Still looking pretty bad for your boy Trump. If Biden goes down in flames because of this then so be it.

The Democrats likely won't even call a floor vote or cite a crime. You guys are being played.

Also... Glenn Beck just broke this audio out. I have time stamped it to start at the relevant part where you can actually listen to the Ukrainian officials.

Start @ 1:13:55



That is some stunning shit. Where is our MSM? Why is it that Glenn Beck has to break this news?

I have not watched that entire Glenn Beck video, but I heard a few people talking about it today that were stunned with the entire timeline, players, and how bad it is for Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and our MSM.

This is the next phase, they want to keep Hillary Clinton out of the election. Everyone can feel that she is gearing up with her listening tour and recent media appearances.
 
In a way, Fox and the whole right-wing infotainment sphere was created for this moment. Nixon die-hards were convinced that the MSM was out to get him and if they had an alternate-reality media defending him, he could have survived.
I think Nixon would have easily survived had he Fox News behind him and this out of touch electorate who have given up on right and wrong and only focus on sides.

What Trump has done is far more egregious and he will likely survive mostly unscathed with just a House vote of Impeachment but no conviction and maybe/likely being voted out of office in the next general.
 
My goodness goofs, 4 versions already??

Meanwhile in the real world Trump raises 125M+ since this new “this is it” moment. You guys get played so much it’s not even fun to clown on you anymore. In fact I’ve moved on to trying to help you cope. You guys need to stop moving goal posts, just like muh Russia you started with a clear point that was quid pro quo. Now we are talking texts, orange man bad etc etc. the more complicated you make it the less the American people believe it. It’s all unraveling and you still take the bait each and every time. Most of you already lost your sanity but for the few left with any common sense, the next 5 years are going to be rough for you....Truly I feel sorry for you all
 
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My goodness goofs, 4 versions already??

Meanwhile in the real world Trump raises 125M+ since this new “this is it” moment. You guys get played so much it’s not even fun to clown on you anymore. In fact I’ve moved on to trying to help you cope. You guys need to stop moving goal posts, just like muh Russia you started with a clear point that was quid pro quo. Now we are talking texts, orange man bad etc etc. the more complicated you make it the less the American people believe it. It’s all unraveling and you still take the bait each and every time. Most of you already lost your sanity but for the few left with any more of common sense, the next 5 years are going to be rough for you....Truly I feel sorry for you all


If you find this situation complicated you should feel sorry for yourself. It’s really not. Thus why it was summed up in a single text.
 
Not looking good for the Democrats at all. How embarrassing
 
If you find this situation complicated you should feel sorry for yourself. It’s really not. Thus why it was summed up in a single text.

Like I said in version 1, you guys are simple minded masochists that like getting played, that’s my only conclusion from 4 versions so far....I wonder what the next 455 will bring. It’s not like I’ve seen this movie before...
 
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My goodness goofs, 4 versions already??

Meanwhile in the real world Trump raises 125M+ since this new “this is it” moment. You guys get played so much it’s not even fun to clown on you anymore. In fact I’ve moved on to trying to help you cope. You guys need to stop moving goal posts, just like muh Russia you started with a clear point that was quid pro quo. Now we are talking texts, orange man bad etc etc. the more complicated you make it the less the American people believe it. It’s all unraveling and you still take the bait each and every time. Most of you already lost your sanity but for the few left with any more of common sense, the next 5 years are going to be rough for you....Truly I feel sorry for you all

The fundraising is the important point here. Once his financial backers drop out, then you know Trump is toast. If the money guys aren’t hedging their bets yet, nobody’s convinced he’ll be removed before the election. All that money though and Trump still can’t get internal polling to show him winning against any of the presumptive Democratic nominees.
 


You have to understand.....A democrat running for president is above even the suggestion of a investigation into corruption, while a republican can literally be spied on by the CIA and the FBI with zero evidence and it is perfectly acceptable.
 
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