Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

[Fawlty]

he does not have to hold a trial and lol at taking Moscow Mitch at his word. Senate rules say he has to hold a trial but since when do Republicans care about rules and procedures?

Unfortunately, this. They can just dismiss the charges on day 1, actually. And that will probably be attempted unless a public/media/congressional shift happens.

 

[Ophydian]

If you want to find out if Biden and his son were part of a massive corrupt scandal, you're out of luck because this is forbidden according to leftits media and demoncrats.

So the best course of action is to have the President and his political appointees make demands that a country open an already closed investigation with the understanding there is a reward in it for them? We have a term for this. Also, in the US our legal system doesn’t appreciate endless investigations of the same person unless new information is presented. Trump and his ilk have not provided Ukraine with anything new.

 

[sdpdude9]

Never seen you post here before, so I take it your a noob/casual and didn't watch the Dem primary debates?

Far from it, followed politics for many years. This forum is toxic so I generally avoided posting in it, though I did read it. But the latest Trump controversy was enough for me to jump in.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I'm waiting for Trump to rip off a Mission Impossible mask and it's really Gary Busey.

And nobody would be surprised.
A few eyebrows might be raised.

And he'd be reelected for sure

 

[andnowweknow]

Unfortunately, this. They can just dismiss the charges on day 1, actually. And that will probably be attempted unless a public/media/congressional shift happens.

That's possible...he's more interested in retaining the Senate than Trump. He has 23 members up for reelection vs. 12 dems in 2020. Go for it Mitch.

 

[andnowweknow]

And nobody would be surprised.
A few eyebrows might be raised.

And he'd be reelected for sure

I might vote for him actually were that true.

 

[Ophydian]

It's already been investigated and adjudicated. Would you like to read proof of this or are you just talking out of your ass, repeating yourself over and over like a good bot?

I’m pretty sure he’s a child, actually or mentally.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Unfortunately, this. They can just dismiss the charges on day 1, actually. And that will probably be attempted unless a public/media/congressional shift happens.

In a way, Fox and the whole right-wing infotainment sphere was created for this moment. Nixon die-hards were convinced that the MSM was out to get him and if they had an alternate-reality media defending him, he could have survived.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

So the best course of action is to have the President and his political appointees make demands that a country open an already closed investigation with the understanding there is a reward in it for them? We have a term for this. Also, in the US our legal system doesn’t appreciate endless investigations of the same person unless new information is presented. Trump and his ilk have not provided Ukraine with anything new.

Idk why anyone is expected to believe that there was no QPQ, it doesn't pass the sniff test at all.

Nobody does shit for free and of all people, Trump knows that

 

[ShadowRun]

But are those people going to vote?
Remember how the last election was gonna be a landslide because the left was so motivated?

Yah

This time the Dems are really fired up

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I’m pretty sure he’s a child, actually or mentally.

And the right leader for a nation full of adult children.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Far from it, followed politics for many years. This forum is toxic so I generally avoided posting in it, though I did read it. But the latest Trump controversy was enough for me to jump in.

Weird because you posted that dumb reaction face when I said the left had sold Obama down the river and that's exactly what happened at the Dem debates...

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

This time the Dems are really fired up

To be honest, I think they just didn't understand what she was asking because she was super nervous and speaking in that weird put on black voice.

'She just gon' engage in real talk, yo '

Lol at using 'engage' while trying to sound street.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I might vote for him actually were that true.

Myself as well.
In an insane world, voting for a lunatic might be the sanest choice.

And endlessly entertaining.

 

[andnowweknow]

Myself as well.
In an insane world, voting for a lunatic might be the sanest choice.

And endlessly entertaining.

Angelo Papas for President 2020

###If you want the ultimate, you gotta prepared to pay the ultimate price###

 

[sdpdude9]

Weird because you posted that dumb reaction face when I said the left had sold Obama down the river and that's exactly what happened at the Dem debates...

Some democrat politicians did turn a bit on Obama during the debates to hit at Biden, that is true. But I was referring to the voters and the democrat base in my initial post, in general the democrat voters still stand behind Obama and do regret voting for him. Same cannot be said of republicans and Bush.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

This time the Dems are really fired up

Paul Buentello is her campaign manager

 

[Fluffernutter]

the misinformation campaign is working on you. Good little soldier

If Hunter wasn't Joe's kid, he wouldn't be making 6 mil a year from a Ukrainian gas company.

If Ivanka wasn't Donald's kid, Jared wouldn't be a foreign policy influencer.

 

[foxnoob]

Trump play book is in full on mode now.

- Claim 'no crime. Fake news' and do everything to block discovery.
- as evidence trickles in showing he may have done it pivot to 'he did not do it, but it would not be a wrong or a crime if he did'
- once ironclad proof of crime comes out, claim 'others have done worse'. Shout 'whataboutisms'.
- as focus closes in on POTUS change to 'POTUS has an absolute right to do it and should do it. it is the right thing to do'

- wrap around all of the above that 'POTUS is the victim here. This continual focus on his repeated crimes is just wrong. Whatabout others crimes? We should ignore POTUS continually breaking the law and only focus on those POTUS points at.'


Cut, paste, repeat all of this when POTUS does the next illegal thing.

In a way, Fox and the whole right-wing infotainment sphere was created for this moment. Nixon die-hards were convinced that the MSM was out to get him and if they had an alternate-reality media defending him, he could have survived.

Precisely. This is the major test run for the Ministry of Truth the GOP has been developing for decades. We are now seeing the results, nearly 1/3rd of politically active Americans are proud to tell anyone who will listen that 2+2=5. That should be terrifying but it's the new normal.

 

[zebby23]

Precisely. This is the major test run for the Ministry of Truth the GOP has been developing for decades. We are now seeing the results, nearly 1/3rd of politically active Americans are proud to tell anyone who will listen that 2+2=5. That should be terrifying but it's the new normal.

what makes it even more terrifying is they will argue as to why 2+2=5 and you are left standing their thinking how does person get through life and they walk away thinking they won the argument.