Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

[MikeMcMann]

This is a serious question despite many, maybe thinking i mean it as a gratuitous Trump insult. It's not.

1 - Do most people think Trump is dumb enough to actually believe all this conspiracy stuff??

OR

2 - Do most think he sees it as a useful tool that his followers are dumb enough to believe??


I think it could be the former. He lives in a right-wing extreme echo chamber and has surrounded himself with yes'people who only tell him whatever he says is right and makes sense (thus why he actually thought the WB letter would exonerate him) , so my money is on 1. You?

 

[Shoemaker]

Coming from where it does, I'll take that as a compliment.

Hope you got the point of it at least. But if I come away looking like the monkeys ass, then the day will end better than it started at least.

 

[Bob Arctor]

This is a serious question despite many, maybe thinking i mean it as a gratuitous Trump insult. It's not.

1 - Do most people think Trump is dumb enough to actually believe all this conspiracy stuff??

OR

2 - Do most think he sees it as a useful tool that his followers are dumb enough to believe??


I think it could be the former. He lives in a right-wing extreme echo chamber and has surrounded himself with yes'people who only tell him whatever he says is right and makes sense (thus why he actually thought the WB letter would exonerate him) , so my money is on 1. You?

I vote #3, that you have a severe case of TDS.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

Lol, I have a vague memory of what this is referencing but can't place it...

 

[MikeMcMann]

I vote #3, that you have a severe case of TDS.

Awww so you lump yourself in the #2 bucket.

Thx for voting.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Hope you got the point of it at least. But if I come away looking like the monkeys ass, then the day will end better than it started at least.

I believe he who is the ass is me.

 

[cincymma79]

I Was told this would be it for trump but I googled it and he’s still president
Now I’m just confused

 

[*Z*]

Posting stupid shit like "This is it" and "Orange man bad" or basically anything that doesn't add to the discussion should be grounds for a ban.

 

[andnowweknow]

I Was told this would be it for trump but I googled it and he’s still president
Now I’m just confused

As advice bestowed on all Trumpers, be patient child.

I doubt your general confusion will rest any time soon.

 

[zebby23]

This is a serious question despite many, maybe thinking i mean it as a gratuitous Trump insult. It's not.

1 - Do most people think Trump is dumb enough to actually believe all this conspiracy stuff??

OR

2 - Do most think he sees it as a useful tool that his followers are dumb enough to believe??


I think it could be the former. He lives in a right-wing extreme echo chamber and has surrounded himself with yes'people who only tell him whatever he says is right and makes sense (thus why he actually thought the WB letter would exonerate him) , so my money is on 1. You?

Little bit of both. He seems to be the kinda guy that lies so much he actually starts to believe those lies. I think he got elected by using the lowest iq folks among us that believed he “knew more than the generals” or that “Mexico would pay for the wall”. Nobody with an iq over 90 believes anything he says because he is a habitual liar. You have to understand that Trump voters were so upset with their lives that they elected a reality show host to make their lives better. Typical victim mentality and Trumpers don’t take responsibility for their lives so they blame the blacks, the Mexicans the Muslims and everyone else except themselves. They see themselves in Trump.

he is an opportunist that found some sheep and capitalized on them and still does.

just think, trump got 30% or so of the population to believe he is the innocent one who never did anything wrong and everyone else is just out to get him. We all read the latest transcript where Trump clearly asks for a favor but his low iq supporters act like the words don’t exist.

it’s actually equal parts fascinating, bizarre and sad

 

[zebby23]

Posting stupid shit like "This is it" and "Orange man bad" or basically anything that doesn't add to the discussion should be grounds for a ban.

just keep reporting them. I do because they add nothing to the conversation and are empty posting which is “supposedly against the rules”

 

[Joe]

Nothing to see here

Im sure trump supporters, the corruption fighters that they are, are going to be calling their local congressman demanding to know why this wasn't investigated

 

[PainIsLIfe]

The Mueller report made it clear soliciting a foreign government for help against a political rival is a felony violation of campaign finance law. Doesn't matter what politican does it. Stop being obtuse and repeating the same debunked talking points regarding Biden. This is a how trump fucked up not a how Biden magically fucked up when he didn't.

There's plenty to trash Biden on including but not limited to: age, gaffes, Iraq war, crime bill, etc. No need to resort to fake news except to muddy waters and attempt to normalize non-normal illegal behaviorwithout needing to resort to fake news

That article says Trump wated them to investigate Hunter Biden - no mention of Joe. I'm not sure he counts as a political rival.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

@hillelslovak87

According to the Ukrainians, Neither Joe or Hunter Biden were charged with anything, nor were they implicated in anything related to Burisma, whose head was investigated, only for the corrupt prosecutor to shelve the case.​

Why you guys so ardently refuse to accept the simple facts as laid out in the WSJ two weeks ago, is beyond me.


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Puck your argument: Is it that Burisma head was innocent and Joe had the prosecutor fired prematurely or that the Burisma guy was guilty and there's never been a proper investigation?

 

[*Z*]

just keep reporting them. I do because they add nothing to the conversation and are empty posting which is “supposedly against the rules”

I don't report anything, but it is annoying.

 

[andnowweknow]

That article says Trump wated them to investigate Hunter Biden - no mention of Joe. I'm not sure he counts as a political rival.

Is this a serious post?

 

[hillelslovak87]

@hillelslovak87

According to the Ukrainians, Neither Joe or Hunter Biden were charged with anything, nor were they implicated in anything related to Burisma, whose head was investigated, only for the corrupt prosecutor to shelve the case.​

Why you guys so ardently refuse to accept the simple facts as laid out in the WSJ two weeks ago, is beyond me.


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Puck your argument: Is it that Burisma head was innocent and Joe had the prosecutor fired prematurely or that the Burisma guy was guilty and there's never been a proper investigation?

The investigation into Burisma's CEO started two years before Hunter Biden entered the company's board. The case had been shelved by the time Joe Biden made the threat regarding the prosecutor, thus articulating the US position as the point man for the WH.

After the corrupt prosecutor was fired, his replacement picked up the investigation and subsequently ended it. Hunter Biden had absolutely nothing to do with any of this, and neither did Joe Biden.

Is this clear enough for you?

 

[cincymma79]

As advice bestowed on all Trumpers, be patient child.

I doubt your general confusion will rest any time soon.

This will definitely be unlike those others it’s I just have to wait until 2024 and then he’ll be out forever

 

[JJHouse]

DEAD MEN DON’T NEED IMPEACHMENT. Swamp in Panic: Trump In Danger.

The Pickering Post ^ | 10/3/2019 | Howell Woltz

https://www.pickeringpost.com/2019/...d-impeachment-swamp-in-panic-trump-in-danger/

DEAD MEN DON’T NEED IMPEACHMENT. Swamp in Panic: Trump In Danger. By Howell Woltz - October 3, 2019

The Betrayal of Donald Trump—by one he helped most REMEMBER, MR. PRESIDENT. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED. I’LL BE BACK TO SCREW YOU LATER!

The man on the left flew to New York to beg for Donald Trump’s support in his 2012 run for President against Barack Hussein Obama.

He came to Trump again when he ran for the U.S. Senate after somehow losing the presidency to a Socialist Muslim no one had ever heard of before. Trump graciously helped him–again.

But Mitt Romney is a sorry politrickster. He let Manchurian candidate, Barack Obama, smoke him in the presidential race….but he won a seat in the Senate.

So Trump backs Romney twice, but when last week’s flap over a phone call exploded, Romney was the first to condemn the President. Say what? (snip)

 

[andnowweknow]

This will definitely be unlike those others it’s I just have to wait until 2024 and then he’ll be out forever

Well it's a completely different set of facts and circumstances so you're probably right.