Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

[PolishHeadlock2]

This lukewarm shit is what passes for ethical courage at this point.

I'll take what I can get

 

[MikeMcMann]

BTW can some one help me understand what REASON Trumptards are on right now?

- This is about corruption, corruption in Ukraine in general and wanting to make sure the new gov't does everything to fight it
- This is about the EU not kicking in enough money. I would withhold again if they don't pay up
- this is about the Biden's. Citizens have a right to know if a VP is corrupt
- this is about general corruption. I don't care about Biden's campaign. I am interested in rooting out general corruption
- i have an absolute right to ask any gov't to root our corruption


I think we are on one of the last two now, but can someone confirm? I guess it changes based on how the fox audience responds and which ones they gravitate to the most. Is that how it works??

 

[Trotsky]

This lukewarm shit is what passes for ethical courage at this point.

It's really weird thinking how even the most apparently hysterical and ultra-partisan Democrats during the Obama years were apparently way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way too favorable to Republicans in appraising their principle and basic decency.

aren't you the immigrant who has yet to acclimate to this great land? please, do yourself a favor & recognize where you stand. I only bring up your immigrant status/roots because this implies you don't know of Trump's past.

pay attention, as I've been saying this for years. I'm a NYer, born & raised. Trump is literally from my neck of the woods. he's from my father's generation - I know people like him, in my family & from my career. he's been a con-artist since the early 80s, nothings changed.

I'm not a partisan hack like you. I look at him differently, the right way, because he's one of us.

the way you speak, like you know it all. you're projecting & somehow feel empowered yourself by Trump's buffoonery. it's amazing. we here in New York, hacks like you provide us with such laughter, because you don't know any better.

consider yourself duped.

Ironically, that poster is the epitome of the detrimental immigrant boogeyman that underpins so much of Trump's faux-populist appeal: someone who was gifted entry into the country without any sort of credentials and without needing to show any kind of value and who now exercises his franchise by blindly voting for corruption and objectively bad policy making out of pure political hobbyism. And that's exactly what made his class of parasitic bourgeois absolutely toxic in mid-century Cuba: they chortled and accelerated the country's plunge into tyranny out of pure intellectual laziness (and, for some, corrupt profiteering).

 

[MikeMcMann]

"I don't know if that's a real request."





Wow. How spineless. Then candidate Trump insulted his entire family AND him, and yet he still bends the knee... No pride, no honor, no code.

Continue to suck him off "Liddle Marco" and see what it gets you...

But lets be clear just in case it was a real request that he has every right to request it...

 

[Fawlty]

Take your foreplay to the lounge.

Pass.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[Shoemaker]

Pass.

There's gonna be sweaty man sex regardless. We're just choosing which threads to wear ponchos in now.

 

[Low Test With da Best]

It's already been investigated and adjudicated. Would you like to read proof of this or are you just talking out of your ass, repeating yourself over and over like a good bot?

On page 19 of 29 in vol. 3 of this topic @Beastman09 stated this as well.

I asked them the following:


Never got a reply from anyone and didn't see discussed in vol 1 or 2 either.

@Too Rolling Stoned @Oliver Clothesoff and I would like to hear someone chime in on this.

 

[AlexDB9]

What are you talking about? I didn't mention the orange man. I made fun of you and 22K.



But I agree people tell you you have poor reading comprehension too often. You definitely comprehend the words you imagine reading.

Yeah...that was for the other goofs...

also yes yes I know muh reading comprehension, I get it

It's really weird thinking how even the most apparently hysterical and ultra-partisan Democrats during the Obama years were apparently way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way too favorable to Republicans in appraising their principle and basic decency.



Ironically, that poster is the epitome of the detrimental immigrant boogeyman that underpins so much of Trump's faux-populist appeal: someone who was gifted entry into the country without any sort of credentials and without needing to show any kind of value and who now exercises his franchise by blindly voting for corruption and objectively bad policy making out of pure political hobbyism. And that's exactly what made his class of parasitic bourgeois absolutely toxic in mid-century Cuba: they chortled and accelerated the country's plunge into tyranny out of pure intellectual laziness (and, for some, corrupt profiteering).

Well here unironically is the bored coward, lived all his life in the first world but still wants to write a wall of text he copy and pasted about a system he’s never lived or experienced. For your goof ball boys auto liking this worthless post I hope you know he would leave you all to dry while you’re being roofied. Looks like you might have to watch out for @Shoemaker in that regard

 

[Shoemaker]

also yes yes I know muh reading comprehension, I get it

I don't know if you meant it but the irony of this post has me chuckling.

 

[AlexDB9]

I don't know if you meant it but the irony of this post has me chuckling.

Hey man I only attempted a couple times to reason with these people, most of them can’t be reasoned with so I shit post. These threads are always an entertaining read when you have a couple minutes of down time

 

[Joe]

Is trump going to call on an investigation on why the doj didn't investigate

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Is trump going to call on an investigation on why the doj didn't investigate

Jesus

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Trump actually retweeted French recently on another topic.



THE CORNER
WHITE HOUSE
Trump’s Most Loyal Allies Are Putting Him on the Path to Impeachment
By DAVID FRENCH
October 4, 2019 4:43 PM

President Donald Trump looks on during a ceremonial swearing-in for Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia at the White House, September 30, 2019. (Leah Millis/Reuters)

I don’t think it’s possible to fully grasp the Ukraine scandal without understanding the dynamic outlined by former homeland security adviser Thomas Bossert last weekend. Recall that he told ABC News and the New York Timesthat a pernicious cycle had taken hold in the White House — even as aides debunked 2016 conspiracy theories, Trump allies (including Rudy Giuliani) would sell the president once again on wild tales. Here’s the Times report on Bossert:

“It is completely debunked,” Mr. Bossert said of the Ukraine theory on ABC. Speaking with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. Bossert blamed Mr. Giuliani for filling the president’s head with misinformation. “I am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president. It sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again, and for clarity here, George, let me just again repeat that it has no validity.”

And:

Other former aides said separately on Sunday that the president had a particular weakness for conspiracy theories involving Ukraine, which in the past three years has become the focus of far-right media outlets and political figures. Mr. Trump was more willing to listen to outside advisers like Mr. Giuliani than his own national security team.

I’ve heard many of these conspiracy theories, and — like many conspiracies — they can use a base of troubling truth as a launching pad for the most bizarre of claims. For example, the origin of the Steele Dossier is troubling and worth investigating. The Carter Page FISA applications should also be closely examined. It is not at all uncommon (sadly) for to find examples of overreach or abuse in any far-flung and complex investigation — that’s one reason why defense lawyers often spend so much time on suppression motions before trials. But the theories floating around online Trumpworld go far, far beyond any discernible connection to logic or evidence.

But here’s the problem — the wildest theories are floated in the quarters that are most fiercely devoted to the president. They’re the ones who constantly to refer to the “real collusion” as the connection between Democrats and the Ukrainian government. They’re the ones who cast doubt on the very idea that Russia interfered in the election at all, much less on Trump’s behalf. They’re the ones constantly using absurd words like “coup” to describe constitutional and legal processes that are adverse to Trump. And, based on the transcript of the call with Volodymyr Zelensky, it seems as if Trump is drinking deeply of their conspiratorial Kool-Aid.

In their click-bait zeal to curry favor with the world’s most powerful man, they are feeding Trump’s worst instincts, and now we know that he’s warped American diplomacy in one of the world’s most dangerous neighborhoods as a result.

In an interview earlier today, I described the scandal as one part corruption, one part fitness. Yes, it’s venal and corrupt to depart from any conventional legal process to urge a dependent foreign government (or a hostile foreign government, like China) to investigate a domestic political rival — especially in the absence of evidence of criminal wrongdoing. But the willingness to believe in conspiracy theories and conduct diplomacy accordingly also speaks less to Trump’s corruption than whether he has the character, knowledge, and temperament to be president. In fact, I’m starting to believe that the fitness aspect of this controversy may well be dominant.

Trump’s most extreme allies have built a large media following, but the most important person in that audience is the current occupant of the Oval Office. They’ve succeeded in convincing the most powerful man in the world that their theories are right. They’re influencing diplomacy at the highest levels. But they just might be planting the seeds of Trump’s political destruction. They’ve helped put their beloved president on the path to impeachment.

 

[Low Test With da Best]

Paul Buentello is her campaign manager

Lol, I have a vague memory of what this is referencing but can't place it...

 

[MikeMcMann]

Is trump going to call on an investigation on why the doj didn't investigate

well d'uh.

Bill Barr examined the complaint that named him and Trump and decided it did not have merit and no outside party needed to do over sight. He was handling it and Trump and he were innocent.

Case closed. System works.

 

[Shoemaker]

Hey man I only attempted a couple times to reason with these people, most of them can’t be reasoned with so I shit post. These threads are always an entertaining read when you have a couple minutes of down time

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Nothing to see here

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

No offense, but you're a complete retard and I hope you feel offended right now.

Coming from where it does, I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[Bob Arctor]

Nothing will come of this, not only will Trump not be impeached, He will be re elected for a 2nd term.