Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%

  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%

  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%

  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • Total voters
    448
CantCucktheTuck said:
No...I'm saying MAGA is laughing at the left's continued insistence that their fan fiction about trump being an Epstein client is true. While the left continues to fall for their own propaganda MAGA keeps racking up the wins.
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Owning the libs by releasing the 'philes and protecting the 'philes by refusing to release the files.
 
curryjunkie said:
Mr " centrist" doin your usual bullshit..
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Exactly. No matter how many factual false equivalencies get pointed out he will keep asking the same child like questions that show he doesn't even follow the biggest story in the world & American news cycle.

Lol at acting like the entire administration & Trump doing a complete 180 on Epstein is equivalent to anything...
 
nostradumbass said:
Lol, that's an outright lie, and neither did any of the other Butlers. The one guy who was Epstein’s Butler for the entire time he knew Trump was specifically asked and said no, and said the handful of times Trump ate there, he didn't even sit at the table with the other rich people and just ate with the butler in the kitchen.

The other Butler, Cotrin, is the one who said Epstein claimed Trump offered him a job at the white house, but said that was bullshit because they hadn't even spoken in over 12 years when Trump became president.

The butler you're clinging to hope on didn't accuse Trump either. He was a butler for 6 months after Epstein and Trump already weren’t speaking and just cobbled together some famous people's phone numbers and tried to sell them and went to prison.

Of the victims, the main one Virginia who was naming people said she never saw and doesn't believe Trump had any involvement in any wrongdoing, the other one "Jane" also said she never saw or heard of Trump getting any massage or having any inappropriate contact with any of the girls.

Looks like you're just stuck with firemarshall bill reciting plots from Law and Order SVU and pretending she got finger blasted in a locker room at age 60.
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Alfredo Rodriguez served as Epstein’s house manager for several years. According to court filings, Rodriguez observed nude underage girls at Epstein’s pool, cleaned up sex toys after so-called “massages,” and noted pornographic images of minors on Epstein’s personal computer.

Rodriguez stole the book for leverage Incase Epstein offed him. He said the 38 circled names were the people involved with the sex trafficking. Trumps name was circled.
 
DoctorTaco said:
Alfredo Rodriguez served as Epstein’s house manager for several years. According to court filings, Rodriguez observed nude underage girls at Epstein’s pool, cleaned up sex toys after so-called “massages,” and noted pornographic images of minors on Epstein’s personal computer.

Rodriguez stole the book for leverage Incase Epstein offed him. He said the 38 circled names were the people involved with the sex trafficking. Trumps name was circled.
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If you had a source on any this, you would have posted it. What are the "several years" you're claiming he was the butler? He was a butler from end of 2004 to like June 2005, and circled like 40 names as potential witnesses, not "people involved in sex trafficking", and tried to sell it to the rape victims for $50k and refused to hand it over without money. The rape victims he tried to sell it to are the ones who said Trump was not involved.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Exactly. No matter how many factual false equivalencies get pointed out he will keep asking the same child like questions that show he doesn't even follow the biggest story in the world & American news cycle.

Lol at acting like the entire administration & Trump doing a complete 180 on Epstein is equivalent to anything...
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It's the biggest story in the world? Maybe on MSNBC. I would think some of the wars going on take precedence. But I don't watch any of the major news media outlets either and listen to their biased opinions 24/7. But of what I do know I can come in here and have an opinion if I want. What's funny is we were on the same side in the gang besting up the black guy. Now because I question or disagree im the enemy. Come on bruh
 
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nostradumbass said:
If you had a source on any this, you would have posted it.
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do you think I made it up whole cloth? Or maybe I searched for the relative info then copy/pasted it here.

This is what the butler told the authorities under threat of perjury.
 
DoctorTaco said:
do you think I made it up whole cloth? Or maybe I searched for the relative info then copy/pasted it here.

This is what the butler told the authorities under threat of perjury.
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I haven’t found anything where he says that circles meant that. Trump and Prince Andrew were allegedly both circled though in the book.


Annotations — stars, arrows, and circled names — add a layer of mystery, with 38 entries, including those of Prince Andrew, Ehud Barak, and Donald Trump, circled for reasons that remain unclear. Rodriguez’s own statements suggest the book was compiled by Epstein’s staff, possibly including Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s alleged accomplice, though her specific role in its creation remains ambiguous.




 
DoctorTaco said:
do you think I made it up whole cloth? Or maybe I searched for the relative info then copy/pasted it here.

This is what the butler told the authorities under threat of perjury.
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And still no source. Shocker.

No, I don't think you "made it up whole cloth", I know you got duped by a reddit post or a meme and repeated it without finding out whether it was true, which it isn’t, and are now having trouble coming up with any source to corroborate it.

Lol at "under threat of perjury". He went to prison for obstruction. He never accused Trump or even claimed to have met him.
 
CantCucktheTuck said:
No...I'm saying MAGA is laughing at the left's continued insistence that their fan fiction about trump being an Epstein client is true. While the left continues to fall for their own propaganda MAGA keeps racking up the wins.
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definitely giving leniency to maxwell (sex trafficker and sexual abuser of minors) was awesome! it's also been amazing that they've not released any of the epstein info. that's been sick. winning is so easy! i feel great about those facts. who wouldn't?
 
nostradumbass said:
And still no source. Shocker.

No, I don't think you "made it up whole cloth", I know you got duped by a reddit post or a meme and repeated it without finding out whether it was true, which it isn’t, and are now having trouble coming up with any source to corroborate it.

Lol at "under threat of perjury". He went to prison for obstruction. He never accused Trump or even claimed to have met him.
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I never claimed he met Trump. He implicated him though.

There are multiple news articles about it. Pick your poison.
 
Cajun said:
It's the biggest story in the world? Maybe on MSNBC. I would think some of the wars going on take precedence. But I don't watch any of the major news media outlets either and listen to their biased opinions 24/7. But of what I do know I can come in here and have an opinion if I want. What's funny is we were on the same side in the gang besting up the black guy. Now because I question or disagree im the enemy. Come on bruh
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It shows. You are always grossly under informed and often arrive at a false equivalency. Which is fine, you not following the news explains it. Well up until somebody provides you with factual information and you choose to talk around or ignore it. That's why people find it a bit disingenuous.
But hey all your questions were answered in another post that you will conveniently ignore to keep playing centrist lol

They are 2 different issues or topics. I dont see the overlap. Condemning racist gang members who almost beat an innocent guy to death is a low bar.

Nothing personal. I just dont see how a guy who admits to not being informed on the issue at all is kind of preachy or questioning the fact of why the Epstein scandal got so much worse under Trump.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
It shows. You are always grossly under informed and often arrive at a false equivalency. Which is fine, you not following the news explains it. Well up until somebody provides you with factual information and you choose to talk around or ignore it. That's why people find it a bit disingenuous.
But hey all your questions were answered in another post that you will conveniently ignore to keep playing centrist lol

They are 2 different issues or topics. I dont see the overlap. Condemning racist gang members who almost beat an innocent guy to death is a low bar.

Nothing personal. I just dont see how a guy who admits to not being informed on the issue at all is kind of preachy or questioning the fact of why the Epstein scandal got so much worse under Trump.
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Yet if I'm in a thread and I make good points then what? Go back and look and we'll start arguing. But I try to respect posters in here. Even you with your theory about a secret society of racists that marry and have mixed kids with minorities.... I take time with people and not just insult them. What are facts here? And what are the conclusions drawn? People in here draw conclusions at the drop of a hat. You're not going to worry me by making that statement
 
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