Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448

Yeah, no shit, we all knew that was never going to happen. You're clapping like a seal for the sardines Trump is throwing your way.

He can order the release of the files any time he's done redacting his name from them. And it looks like Jizzlaine didn't incriminate anyone during her interview but did claim she never witnessed Trump get a massage. That transfer to Club Fed was well earned it seems.
 
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Yeah, no shit, we all knew that was never going to happen. Your clapping like a seal for the sardines Trump is throwing your way.

He can order the release of the files any time he's done redacting his name from them. And it looks like Jizzlaine didn't incriminate anyone during her interview but did claim she never witnessed Trump get a massage. That transfer to Club Fed was well earned it seems.
lol what , Trump admin wanted that unsealed and the judge blocked it. How does that compute to sardines in your head ? Trump didn’t get what he wanted . What a weird take
 
She didnt say what they wanted to hear. The left doesnt live in reality man.. they live with 3 thoughts that dominate mind at all times. Orangeman bad, how can we get Trump, what things can we possibly say about anything Trump does or says . You cant have rational discussions with people who have given up on anything true and focus solely on agenda.
If this is what you really think, you’re an imbecile. Nobody. Nobody. Ever. Thought she was going to say anything to implicate the guy that moved her to Shangrila and has the power to pardon her. The people that ignore what’s transpiring right in front of their eyes so they can pretend her words mean something do so because they want DJ Jizzy T to remain king of America forever. That’s it, that’s all.
 
U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said: “Today’s sentence holds Ghislaine Maxwell accountable for perpetrating heinous crimes against children. This sentence sends a strong message that no one is above the law and it is never too late for justice. We again express our gratitude to Epstein and Maxwell’s victims for their courage in coming forward, in testifying at trial, and in sharing their stories as part of today’s sentencing.”


This is the person that some people in here are putting their trust in. Absolutely disgusting shit, fellas. Shame on you all.
 
Roman Polanski comes to mind.
Fair point, although he was a controversial figure bc many on the left rightfully condemned him. There was a lot of, “let’s separate the artist from the art” talk which I don’t love, but as a fight fan I’m familiar with and find myself doing on occasion.
But it seems to be the only point of interest for many on the left. Look how they refuse to believe anything that challenges the result that they want. Maxwell doesn't implicate Trump, therefore she is lying. If the files get released and there's no proof of salacious activity from Trump, they will say the files were altered. This was THE most predictable reaction we all knew they'd have and they've followed it to a T so far.
It’s her lack of credibility and a pretty clear back room deal that makes people on both sides of the isle question her testimony. We can all agree (hundreds of WR posters per the poll) that there is a tremendous amount of smoke when it comes to Trump and Epstein. For someone like her to catch such a sweetheart deal and then say, “there is no fire what so ever” is why people (again, on both sides) doubt what she’s saying re: Trump.
 
lol what , Trump admin wanted that unsealed and the judge blocked it.

Mate, this isn't true. The judge does not have the authority to unseal grand jury indictments. The trump administration knew this, and made an impossible request they knew would be denied.

For gods sake man, he's the fucking President. He's in charge of the entire Department of Justice and all Federal Law Enforcement Agencies. He could stand on a podium tomorrow and show the world everything the government has on file or order the heads of any of those departments, or the Attorney General, to tell us everything. But instead he's convinced you that a single liberal judge is somehow shutting this all down, and that trump is desperately trying to get out the truth?

There is no way they should be able to play y'all this easy.
 

That's his MO. I watched Trump assign someone new to head the DC police department and he stated there were a lot of good cops, but that there were also some that shouldn't be there, that the only reason they had the job was because of "woke". Let's see what kind of purge follows and if his cult members make excuses for him politicizing yet another agency.
 
Yeah, no shit, we all knew that was never going to happen. Your clapping like a seal for the sardines Trump is throwing your way.

He can order the release of the files any time he's done redacting his name from them. And it looks like Jizzlaine didn't incriminate anyone during her interview but did claim she never witnessed Trump get a massage. That transfer to Club Fed was well earned it seems.
Yea the whole thing was she said she was innocent. To be innocent her story required her to say she never saw anything. It's not that she said Trump did nothing. She said no one did anything. Easy to toss her statements based on what we already know. She is lying and still got transferred. That should be enough for red flags for even our trumpets to see it messed up.
 
Dude. Wtf. You’re just making shit up now. You think she could have cut a deal as a ringleader in a sex trafficking ring with minors by offering up one and only one client? Don’t insult our intelligence.
I tried agreeing to disagree, but you don't want to let it go. Sammy Gravano personally admitted involvement in at least 17 murders and he was given a deal as long as he testified against John Gotti. You're insulting your own intelligence pretending these things don't happen.

I guess I'm totally wrong about @oldshadow and @Confucamus trying to obfuscate what is happening here. GTFO with the both of you. You both are arguing in bad faith.
I knew you wouldn't have an answer. Concession accepted.

Wouldn't it be convenient if Trump just released the files?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
You believe Maxwell????
No Im a conservative I know shes a piece of shit and no telling what her motives are or what's true from that. That's not the point. Had she pointed finger at Trump however dems and especially progressives would be falling all over selves how it had to be true because of this that and the other thing they conjured up......... but she says Trump did nothing and was barely an aquientance and so big deal she's just lying saying whatever. The double standard is the issue I have Maxwell is human trash.
 
Apparently @Stoic1 has managed to crawl out from the gates of hell. Assuming @Confucamus has something to do with this.
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lol what , Trump admin wanted that unsealed and the judge blocked it. How does that compute to sardines in your head ? Trump didn’t get what he wanted . What a weird take
Trump can release the files which include the investigation right? Grand Jury transcripts would be the initial evidence investigators had to work with and by law they are private and are only released if there's some type of urgent need.

Trump refused to release the files but offered up this idea that he'd request the Grand Jury testimony be released in order to placate his base that was beginning to revolt over the realization that Trump was never serious about getting to the bottom of who all the clients really were. He was more interested in giving the FBI overtime to redact his own name from the files.
 
Mate, this isn't true. The judge does not have the authority to unseal grand jury indictments. The trump administration knew this, and made an impossible request they knew would be denied.

For gods sake man, he's the fucking President. He's in charge of the entire Department of Justice and all Federal Law Enforcement Agencies. He could stand on a podium tomorrow and show the world everything the government has on file or order the heads of any of those departments, or the Attorney General, to tell us everything. But instead he's convinced you that a single liberal judge is somehow shutting this all down, and that trump is desperately trying to get out the truth?

There is no way they should be able to play y'all this easy.
At this point it's hard to argue against willfull ignorance.
 
Had she pointed finger at Trump however dems and especially progressives would be falling all over selves how it had to be true because of this that and the other thing they conjured up......... but she says Trump did nothing and was barely an aquientance and so big deal she's just lying saying whatever. The double standard is the issue I have Maxwell is human trash.

You're so cooked you're complaining about a double standard that you just made up in your own head.

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