Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448
let me get this straight, you are saying if she implicates trump its a lie, but if she doesnt shes telling the truth?

This guy is such a moron he's inadvertently shown his cards multiple times in this thread, but is still feigning impartiality.

And I mean, he's also ignoring the actual investigations and the actual evidence and is harping on about a lie detector test like he's in a shitty crime drama from the 90s.
 
Do you believe her? Do you believe her to be credible?
No, and I've said she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Just because she said she didn't see Trump do anything, doesn't mean I'm just going to jump on the Maxwell bandwagon. See how that works? The left is hating on her right now because she didn't say what they wanted her to say. If she had implicated Trump, they would immediately deify her. She'd get the Avenatti treatment. Overlook how much of a slimy scumbag someone is as long as the person keeps targeting Trump. I point that out because it's clear they don't actually care about justice for the women who were abused. They just want to get Trump.


Si you are scared if she takes a polygraph on Trump and passes.

So scared you ignore my like on why and how it can be trusted in a situation like this.

So we are back to feels again.
He will do whatever Reddit tells him to do. Zero ability to think for himself. Just regurgitates TDS nonsense and jumps ship on every story that doesn't go the way he wants it to.
 
No, and I've said she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Just because she said she didn't see Trump do anything, doesn't mean I'm just going to jump on the Maxwell bandwagon. See how that works? The left is hating on her right now because she didn't say what they wanted her to say. If she had implicated Trump, they would immediately deify her. She'd get the Avenatti treatment. Overlook how much of a slimy scumbag someone is as long as the person keeps targeting Trump. I point that out because it's clear they don't actually care about justice for the women who were abused. They just want to get Trump.



He will do whatever Reddit tells him to do. Zero ability to think for himself. Just regurgitates TDS nonsense and jumps ship on every story that doesn't go the way he wants it to.
The issue is she can only gain by giving Trump a pass. If she implicates him she doesn’t stand to gain anything. It’s one sided. So any narrative from her that she can benefit from is automatically discarded.
 
No, and I've said she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Just because she said she didn't see Trump do anything, doesn't mean I'm just going to jump on the Maxwell bandwagon. See how that works? The left is hating on her right now because she didn't say what they wanted her to say. If she had implicated Trump, they would immediately deify her. She'd get the Avenatti treatment. Overlook how much of a slimy scumbag someone is as long as the person keeps targeting Trump. I point that out because it's clear they don't actually care about justice for the women who were abused. They just want to get Trump.
I can’t imagine anyone deifying a child predator. They might give credit for trying to do the right thing, but no more than that. No one would overlook her crimes. Yes, people on the left care about the women who were abused, just as people on the right do.

Wanting Trump held accountable for his words and actions isn’t attached to this one particular issue.
 
The issue is she can only gain by giving Trump a pass. If she implicates him she doesn’t stand to gain anything. It’s one sided. So any narrative from her that she can benefit from is automatically discarded.
You don't think she'd have anything to gain by implicating Trump? At any point during Biden's presidency she could have implicated Trump and earned herself A LOT of favors from the Democrats. She'd be out of prison and a millionaire in no time, IMO. Have we not seen how lucrative it has become to accuse Trump and/or any Republican of salacious activities, needing ZERO evidence? E. Jean Carroll and Christine Blassey Ford for example.
 
let me get this straight, you are saying if she implicates trump its a lie, but if she doesnt shes telling the truth?

No I said i dont trust her word because of her past. I want a polygraph on her statement about Trump before I believe her.
 
The left is hating on her right now because she didn't say what they wanted her to say. If she had implicated Trump, they would immediately deify her.

You are so much like @HereticBD it's funny. Like him, you should also try basing your arguments on reality instead of on the bullshit you've manufactured in your head.
 
You don't think she'd have anything to gain by implicating Trump? At any point during Biden's presidency she could have implicated Trump and earned herself A LOT of favors from the Democrats. She'd be out of prison and a millionaire in no time, IMO. Have we not seen how lucrative it has become to accuse Trump and/or any Republican of salacious activities, needing ZERO evidence? E. Jean Carroll and Christine Blassey Ford for example.
How would she be out of prison? She helped rape minors. Fuck outta here with that.
 
I can’t imagine anyone deifying a child predator. They might give credit for trying to do the right thing, but no more than that. No one would overlook her crimes. Yes, people on the left care about the women who were abused, just as people on the right do.
Roman Polanski comes to mind.

Wanting Trump held accountable for his words and actions isn’t attached to this one particular issue.
But it seems to be the only point of interest for many on the left. Look how they refuse to believe anything that challenges the result that they want. Maxwell doesn't implicate Trump, therefore she is lying. If the files get released and there's no proof of salacious activity from Trump, they will say the files were altered. This was THE most predictable reaction we all knew they'd have and they've followed it to a T so far.
 
let me get this straight, you are saying if she implicates trump its a lie, but if she doesnt shes telling the truth?
It's shameless shit. Notice there are only 2 guys even trying to excuse this shit. It's not a good look @oldshadow @Confucamus .

Hey, Confucamus, have you gotten to use the hammer yet? I bet you have an itchy trigger finger. <lol>
 
How would she be out of prison? She helped rape minors. Fuck outta here with that.
You really think that would have stopped the Democrats if she said she was willing to implicate Trump?
 
He made you look like a fool too, huh?

I take that to mean you're not interested in basing your arguments on reality then, huh?

But no. Like you, all he did was make himself look like a retard who defends child sex traffickers. Feel free to go check it out if you wish. You'll notice his make-believe arguments are exactly the same as your make-believe arguments.

:)
 
Excuse what?
Excuse a convicted rapist and sex trafficker lying to get her SO status waived and getting a cushy Club Fed room with a nod and a wink on the pardon as Trump leaves office. Taking anything she says at face value is egregious. She is a known liar with as clear of an agenda as you will ever come across.

And you are excusing the Trump administration trying to sell this farce. You are on the wrong side of this argument.
 
Excuse a convicted rapist and sex trafficker lying to get her SO status waived and getting a cushy Club Fed room with a nod and a wink on the pardon as Trump leaves office. Taking anything she says at face value is egregious. She is a known liar with as clear of an agenda as you will ever come across.

And you are excusing the Trump administration trying to sell this farce. You are on the wrong side of this argument.
Just a few posts back on this very page I said she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, even though she didn't implicate Trump. She's a creep and a predator and I don't trust her. Please tell me exactly how I am excusing her lying (which you're assuming) to get a pardon.
 
It's shameless shit. Notice there are only 2 guys even trying to excuse this shit. It's not a good look @oldshadow @Confucamus .

Hey, Confucamus, have you gotten to use the hammer yet? I bet you have an itchy trigger finger. <lol>

So you can't read. Go back and read my post again.

Since you are slow I'll give it to you. I said i dont trust her and I think she needs to take a polygraph on her statement on Trump.

His answer (maybe you too) is no he will not believe it even if she took and passed the polygraph on her statement about Trump.
 
Cut the bullshit already. You’re making this completely political. Epstein was convicted during trumps term. Because of a journalist.
If I was making this political, I'd be on here celebrating her character and saying she deserves a second chance at freedom for bravely exonerating Trump. Right out of the leftist playbook. Unlike most of the posters in this thread, my interest in justice here doesn't start and end with Trump. Whether she implicates him or not, I'd like to see all people implicated in the files face justice as well. I want the victims to be able to stand up in a court of law and point them out, if they chose to do so. They deserve that much, at least.
 
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