Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448
Okay, I see, but she was transferred to a cushy prison without implicating anyone at all. Seemingly only for putting distance between Trump and Epstein.
We don't know everything she spoke to the Justice Department about before being granted a transfer. Her lawyer says it was for a "safer placement" which I want to say is bullshit unless someone she's giving up would be less likely to get to her at the new prison. I'm not convinced that her conversation with the JD and her transfer aren't related.
 
Do you seriously think the left narrative and spin wouldn't be 180 drastically different had she of implicated Trump?

Maxwell would say anything to save her ass no shit.
Hopefully everyone would be happy if she implicated anyone and had proof. Maxwell would say anything to save her ass, and Trump is the only one that can save it, and despite that glaring conflict of interest she's also perjured herself so has no credibility anyway. "I'm innocent of these charges!" "Also I saw Trump (or anyone) diddling minors..." Not going to happen right? Yet she was transferred to a minimum security prison for some reason. What conclusion does your logic bring you to?
 
The history of the world shows that kiddie fiddlers in the highest of places ALWAYS get away with it. They have the power to bury it along with the existence of the kids they left in their wake.
Nothing will come of this, nothing will come of the Diddy case, we'll all just accept that these nonces fuck and murder children and continue to get away with it. Occasionally we'll make a movie or a documentary, occasionally someone will get thrown under the bus, usually posthumously.

The majority of people either don't know about this, or don't believe it
 
We don't know everything she spoke to the Justice Department about before being granted a transfer. Her lawyer says it was for a "safer placement" which I want to say is bullshit unless someone she's giving up would be less likely to get to her at the new prison. I'm not convinced that her conversation with the JD and her transfer aren't related.
Haven't the full transcripts of the interview been released? You seem to voice a lot of doubts about the narrative the Trump team are releasing but you always seem to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. <Prem972>
 
No Im a conservative I know shes a piece of shit and no telling what her motives are or what's true from that. That's not the point. Had she pointed finger at Trump however dems and especially progressives would be falling all over selves how it had to be true because of this that and the other thing they conjured up......... but she says Trump did nothing and was barely an aquientance and so big deal she's just lying saying whatever. The double standard is the issue I have Maxwell is human trash.
Fucking hell, NO. Honest people would not have trusted anything coming out of that worthless cunt's mouth. When she didn't finger Slick Willy you guys acted like we would jump for joy. Honest and decent people want people held accountable, and we know that the word of a convicted sex trafficker and rapist means nothing.

And LMFAO at "barely an acquaintance". Those two were thick as thieves, my boy.
 
No Im a conservative I know shes a piece of shit and no telling what her motives are or what's true from that. That's not the point. Had she pointed finger at Trump however dems and especially progressives would be falling all over selves how it had to be true because of this that and the other thing they conjured up......... but she says Trump did nothing and was barely an aquientance and so big deal she's just lying saying whatever. The double standard is the issue I have Maxwell is human trash.
Surely you can see this isn’t a 50/50? She has 100% incentive to not point a finger at trump. She hasn’t pointed a finger at anyone because she still hasn’t accepted her own culpability.
 

Justice Dept. Sent Congress Epstein Files That Were Already Public, Democrats Say​

The ‘overwhelming majority’ of the material provided to a key investigative committee in response to a subpoena had already been released, according to Democratic members.
 

Justice Dept. Sent Congress Epstein Files That Were Already Public, Democrats Say​

The ‘overwhelming majority’ of the material provided to a key investigative committee in response to a subpoena had already been released, according to Democratic members.
And even any incriminating stuff would have been redacted anyway.

This is authoritarianism. It amazes me that the 2nd amendment guys aren't going crazy about the military on the streets of American cities. Nah, it doesn't amaze me. I always knew they were full of shit. Just like the "protect the kids" and "law and order" people. I like that the veil has been ripped off.
 
Fucking hell, NO. Honest people would not have trusted anything coming out of that worthless cunt's mouth. When she didn't finger Slick Willy you guys acted like we would jump for joy. Honest and decent people want people held accountable, and we know that the word of a convicted sex trafficker and rapist means nothing.

And LMFAO at "barely an acquaintance". Those two were thick as thieves, my boy.
Ghislaine literally used MaroLardo to recruit the girls. That's where she "stole" Virginia Giuffre from. Trump blamed it on Epstein, but the truth is Ghislaine spotted her working in the spa, befriended her, then passed her along to Epstein.

Virginia was literally reading a book about massage therapy, Ghislaine spotted her, then told her she could get her a job as a "travelling masseuse." Don't worry, no experience required! That's what she told her. And she did get her the job. And the client was Epstein. Except she was required to do more than give legit massages.
 
Haven't the full transcripts of the interview been released? You seem to voice a lot of doubts about the narrative the Trump team are releasing but you always seem to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. <Prem972>
Thats what intentionally dishonest people do to not have to deal with the baggage & full reality of defending horrible monsters who do the sickest & most evil of dirt.

The line in the sand and the goalposts will keep getting moved further back × infinity.

Then there is always denial. They could have him on tape. Wouldn't change a thing. Hell, they have him on tape already being a perverted sex pest towards his own underage daughters. Or bragging about sexual assualt/rape. They champion him talking like that & his behavior. Rich fake Christian elite non minorities in suits always are beyond reproach and above the law to them. They never stop to ask themselves why that is at best or they 100% know why & are too pussy to be honest about it.
 
No Im a conservative I know shes a piece of shit and no telling what her motives are or what's true from that. That's not the point. Had she pointed finger at Trump however dems and especially progressives would be falling all over selves how it had to be true because of this that and the other thing they conjured up......... but she says Trump did nothing and was barely an aquientance and so big deal she's just lying saying whatever. The double standard is the issue I have Maxwell is human trash.
Thats not true. Myself & plenty people said there would need to be evidence for what she said no matter what she said. Thats a strawman at best, it never happened. Then in this very thread you can see a majority of the left posters post these exact words of needing concrete evidence not just her ruined word & tarnished reputation prior to this shameful grift happening.
 
Thats what intentionally dishonest people do to not have to deal with the baggage & full reality of defending horrible monsters who do the sickest & most evil of dirt.

The line in the sand and the goalposts will keep getting moved further back × infinity.

Then there is always denial. They could have him on tape. Wouldn't change a thing. Hell, they have him on tape already being a perverted sex pest towards his own underage daughters. Or bragging about sexual assualt/rape. They champion him talking like that & his behavior. Rich fake Christian elite non minorities in suits always are beyond reproach and above the law to them. They never stop to ask themselves why that is at best or they 100% know why & are too pussy to be honest about it.
Trump could be on tape doing these things and they would explain it away. It's a cult.
 
And let's keep something else in mind, because calling the girls prostitutes has become a talking point. Not everything was consensual. Some were molested. Some girls were too intimidated to say no, and never came back. Other stories are more brutal. Some have made accusations of violent rape.

Katie Johnson stated she very clearly told Trump no. According to her, Trump said "I do what I want!" When she realized it was inevitable, she asked him to at least use a condom. Trump then yelled "get a fucking abortion!" She was 13.

This claim was made way back in 2016, btw, before Maxwell or even Epstein were arrested (for the second time).
 
And let's keep something else in mind, because calling the girls prostitutes has become a talking point. Not everything was consensual. Some were molested. Some girls were too intimidated to say no, and never came back. Other stories are more brutal. Some have made accusations of violent rape.

Katie Johnson stated she very clearly told Trump no. According to her, Trump said "I do what I want!" When she realized it was inevitable, she asked him to at least use a condom. Trump then yelled "get a fucking abortion!" She was 13.

This claim was made way back in 2016, btw, before Maxwell or even Epstein were arrested (for the second time).
These girls WEREN'T prostitutes. What's happening is that the lawyers involved are pushing a narrative. The President of the United States that has a massive media apparatus at his disposal to push this narrative. It's not a level playing field.

We have a President that grabs women by the pussy without asking and the military on the streets of America.

We have to fight it to stay free.

 

Justice Dept. Sent Congress Epstein Files That Were Already Public, Democrats Say​

The ‘overwhelming majority’ of the material provided to a key investigative committee in response to a subpoena had already been released, according to Democratic members.

They are buying time for right wing media to come up with a way to lessen Maxwell. First Corporate Right Wing media said Maxwell was a victim and that went over like a fart in church. Then recently corporate right wing media has referred to Maxwell as Epstein's Aid. I like to refer to Maxwell as a convicted rapist who was the right-hand woman in the biggest sex trafficking ring of teenage girls in America.
It's like now the same media calls Trumps apparent Dementia as Trump having senior moments.
Sometimes I feel sorry for MAGA, because they are too dumb or emotional to see the media they consume is lying to them. Imagine being this mad because we had a half black guy as President and some dudes swam against women in some swim meets.
 
We don't know everything she spoke to the Justice Department about before being granted a transfer.
That doesn't matter, you goof. She is a convicted sex offender that was charged with perjury. It was dropped because her other charges took care of it, as in putting her behind bars.

She should not be in the conversation. She raped kids. There was a situation that I read the transcripts on. 14 y/old. She coached her on how to give Epstein head and did it with her. Then Maxwell digitally penetrated this 14 y/old, as she watched this poor girl, under duress, climb on top of Epstein.

What is wrong with you guys? This woman is evil.
 
That doesn't matter, you goof. She is a convicted sex offender that was charged with perjury. It was dropped because her other charges took care of it, as in putting her behind bars.

She should not be in the conversation. She raped kids. There was a situation that I read the transcripts on. 14 y/old. She coached her on how to give Epstein head and did it with her. Then Maxwell digitally penetrated this 14 y/old, as she watched this poor girl, under duress, climbed on top of Epstein.

What is wrong with you guys? This woman is evil.
...and now this evil woman had her sex offender status waved and was moved to a minimum security facility.
 
...and now this evil woman had her sex offender status waved and was moved to a minimum security facility.
She lied to their faces and they know it.

“I never, ever saw any man doing something inappropriate with a woman of any age,” Maxwell said. “I never saw inappropriate habits.”

What do they do? They reward her. It's a slap in the faces of all the victims.
 
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