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International Trump/Putin Summit

I wonder if all this fake outrage is as orchestrated as the fake outrage over the SCOTUS pick, and another attempt to cover up the FBI's attempt at subverting the Constitution and destroying our democratic voting process - which is CURRENTLY REAL news showing how treasonous they actually are?
 
What the people who jump up and down and scream the loudest don't understand, is that they have been scream so loud and so long and people outside of their circles have tuned them out, and the fact that they aren't listening anymore is making them even more upset.

"It's really serious this time guys" said for the 4 time this week...since 2015

The thing is, they are half right about this. Trump publically disregarding the DOJ's findings in favor of Putin's word is unexcusable.

But that is only a fraction of the outrage. These people are more outraged over the fact that Trump isn't publically starting shit with Putin. The democrats being the party of nonintervention is no more. The Boltons and McCains could be slowly replaced by democrats if this keeps up.

On the flipside, if we hacked Putin's reelection, do you think Putin would threaten our President publically? I don't think do. Putin is tough but he ain't stupid. He would try to get even behind the scenes, which is exactly what we should do, and not get all bitchy about it because libs are outraged and demand tough talk.
 
The difference is that BHO's agenda was to be weak, NOT to negotiate and make deals that are favorable to the USA.

Like taking the word of a murderous dictator over your intelligence agencies and congress after they infiltrated our electoral process. That's so favorable to the USA.
 
Trump was right to call out the US intelligence services. Look at how much destruction they have caused.
 
And the left went from ‘why is America always creating propaganda enemies to fight’, to ‘THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!!! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!!! Putin is Literally Hitler!!’

Yeah it sounds just as dumb the second time.......
 
I am very amused by you trying to cause distraction of the forest by pointing out the trees. You justified, and continue to justify, Russian government penetration into the electoral process on the grounds of "Americans do it all the time!"



Nothing in life is inevitable. America gained a lot of domestic and international legitimacy as a hegemon following WWI and WWII. People were persuaded by American culture and yes they were also at times persuaded by American coercion (sanctions, threats, sabotage, infiltration, war, etc). American news had so much influence mainly because of Americas reputation. Reputation matters and American reputation is diminishing faster than ever because of the manipulation of the election and by the political spectacle created by Trump and Putin. If the influence is "minor" why is an investigation by a special prosecutor who was the former head of the FBI being undertaken? Material influence isn't the only thing that matters in domestic and international affairs.

Might as well be talking to a tree here. I think you're missing the point by a wide margin.

What I'm saying is that the influence of other nations into America's affairs is inevitable. And that is not merely a byproduct of Russia's meddling, but globalization. The center of power no longer resides only in America. Others, too, are now taking control of the narrative. You will not be able to prevent the flow of information on the internet, no matter what sort of sanctions are imposed, and I do not necessarily believe that the restriction of such information is even necessary, nor desirable.

What's more important, is to educate the people in a way which will allow them to operate rationally in the transparent environment that we are bound to live in. An environment where leaks will take place, where "inconvenient information" will be exposed, where back-room deals will become the public's knowledge, to the chagrin of politicians and their partisan supporters.

You can fight Russia with the same methods as Metallica once tried to fight Napster, to prevent the spread of content over the internet. By outdated, largely obsolete means.

You will not be able to protect America by protecting its people from information. You can only protect them by making them even more knowledgeable about the political process, to the point where they will not be surprised or outraged by being exposed to such information. Educating people to be capable of critically evaluating the material that they read, and to have a more complex understanding of the nature of politics, is surely a taller task than sanctioning Vladimir Putin and setting the CIA loose to fight a War on the Web, but it is the only solution which yields long-term rewards.
 
Anything to go against Trump ...

Trump signs bill allows all tranny’s to have their own bathrooms
The left “dictator!! Literally Hitler excluding 90% of people “

Ha and endorsed by shadow run its official.....
 
I am fairly certain there is Russian meddling on SD in this thread. No American is this fucking stupid to keep defending Trump after this "summit".
Some of them definitely are. Also a few Canadians (???).
 
Even Fox News is taking shots at El Trumpo! The awakening is occurring, people are finally realizing the art of the con!

“Mankind." That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!
 
Some of them definitely are. Also a few Canadians (???).
Most of the hardcore trump supporters here are Canadian. Its bizarre to be so emotionally invested in a foreign leader. They'll defend him for hours.
 
The difference is that BHO's agenda was to be weak, NOT to negotiate and make deals that are favorable to the USA.
Putin is teabagging Trump and Trump is motorboating it.

Donald "Russia first" Trump can get fucked.
 
Strong and powerful. Hahaha. Putin wrote that and made trump read it.

"And then I made him call me strong and powerful!"

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You probably don't keep up with his constant excuse-making. He just spits straight cognitive dissonance and leaves it at that. "Yes, that's unacceptable, period. But look over here at this great thing, and let's not talk about the unacceptable stuff." It's just another con. See the Maher appearance for the latest example.

"I mean 'unacceptable' in the sense that it's, you know, bad. Not in the sense that, like, I can't accept it. I accept it. He has my vote."
 
Might as well be talking to a tree here. I think you're missing the point by a wide margin.

What I'm saying is that the influence of other nations into America's affairs is inevitable. And that is not merely a byproduct of Russia's meddling, but globalization. The center of power no longer resides only in America. Others, too, are now taking control of the narrative. You will not be able to prevent the flow of information on the internet, no matter what sort of sanctions are imposed, and I do not necessarily believe that the restriction of such information is even necessary, nor desirable.

What's more important, is to educate the people in a way which will allow them to operate rationally in the transparent environment that we are bound to live in. An environment where leaks will take place, where "inconvenient information" will be exposed, where back-room deals will become the public's knowledge, to the chagrin of politicians and their partisan supporters.

You can fight Russia with the same methods as Metallica once tried to fight Napster, to prevent the spread of content over the internet. By outdated, largely obsolete means.

You will not be able to protect America by protecting its people from information. You can only protect them by making them even more knowledgeable about the political process, to the point where they will not be surprised or outraged by being exposed to such information. Educating people to be capable of critically evaluating the material that they read, and to have a more complex understanding of the nature of politics, is surely a taller task than sanctioning Vladimir Putin and setting the CIA loose to fight a War on the Web, but it is the only solution which yields long-term rewards.
The Russians were directly responsible for spreading MISINFORMATION and hacking one party and disseminating that information for the benefit of their chosen candidate, who's son quite literally accepted such help, and who is now treating Russia as America's greatest ally.
 
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