Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

Riots are ok and not that bad if they are done under the name of their Messiah.

In retrospect, I suspect that most of these people didn’t care about the riot aspect of BLM. They just don’t think Black Lives Matter…..So they came up with the coverup of blaming riots.
Destruction of property and the lasting effects on the areas is fucked up. Those 2020 riots were horseshit. As were the retarded, violent Maga crusaders thinking they were going to start an insurrection.
 
It would be really easy to separate the righteous convictions from the bad ones? I doubt it. Are you at all concerned about unequal application of the law?
Well when it comes to assaulting officers, we have video of many of them, it’s not hard to prove. It’s also pretty easy judge the convictions of someone like Enrique Tarrio, that’s not hard to do.
In fact, what evidence do you have for bad convictions? Whom, and how many?
 
Good, prison should be for real criminals, not for peaceful protesters like that shamam guy.
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I care about it as much as the next person. Interpret that as you will.
I don't know how to interpret that.

I do love how this is your "I'm gonna talk mad shit about you guys after Kamala wins!" energy. This is all you've been left with. LOL.
Yes, Trump won. Feel free to talk mad shit on me being wrong there. It doesn't change what's right or wrong through.


Do you agree with Joe Biden pardoning Michael Byrd (the police officer who shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt dead)?
I don't know the specifics of that case but if it's as simple as you are presenting it, no, I don't. Beyond that, I don't agree with the Hunter pardon or any of the last minute pre-emptive ones he made for staff and family.

What was your stance on the violent protestor pardons? I've only seen you ask about the Byrd one here.
 
No. I don't agree with most things Biden did while in office. Why is this relevant?
I quoted people who clutched pearls at how Trump dared to pardon violent protestors.
It doesn't get more violent than homicide, which is what officer Michael Byrd did when he shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt.
Michael Byrd was the most violent person at the J6 protest.
 
Yes, Trump won. Feel free to talk mad shit on me being wrong there. It doesn't change what's right or wrong through.
Funny how you've made no comments on Biden's pardons. I guess those weren't quite "wrong" enough for you to chime in on, eh?
 
I don't know the specifics of that case but if it's as simple as you are presenting it, no, I don't. Beyond that, I don't agree with the Hunter pardon or any of the last minute pre-emptive ones he made for staff and family.

What was your stance on the violent protestor pardons? I've only seen you ask about the Byrd one here.
I don't think any of the violent protestors were as violent as officer Michael Byrd was when he shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt on J6.

You should look up the specifics, and generate an opinion about them, before you ask me any more questions,
unless you would rather treat Ashli Babbitt's life as trivial.
 
I quoted people who clutched pearls at how Trump dared to pardon violent protestors.
It doesn't get more violent than homicide, which is what officer Michael Byrd did when he shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt.
Michael Byrd was the most violent person at the J6 protest.
And how does that change that the pardoning these individuals is also morally reprehensible? Why is the immediate response to distract from something that is clearly wrong? Why can 2 things not be treated as simultaneously being morally and ethically wrong?

Why is it relevant?
 
The running conspiracy was that it was the F.B.I. that instigated the assault on the Capitol because Trump followers were so pure that they wouldn't've done so otherwise.
Oh yeah okay, forgot that bollocks.

Must feel awesome for the cops who were there to protect our government being thought so little of.
 
Nah. I was right here when the same exact people who were complaining about the 2020 riots not having enough punishment are now shrugging like "welp Trump pardoned even the violent criminals who attacked police officers. It is what it is". Big difference between some dude who walked around the building no?

The whole point is that if you do have conservative ideology you DONT support rule and law being broken, ESPECIALLY violent offenders who attack cops. It's literally the ONLY example dudes are okay with guys who attack police officers getting out of jail. But because "Trump did it" it's a good thing even if it goes against what you'd support in any other scenario. Ridiculous.
Law and order is a great principle to stand by. It's just something people excuse when they don't like the law. Not just this bare minimum stuff that should be easy (destroying property/ attacking people should have punishment) but immigration, tax laws, etc.

This week is completely fucked in terms of the way things should work. TikTok ban should still be enforced right now and we had one exec say they wouldn't do it for their last day in office and now the incoming one saying he won't do it. All these pardons have been a disaster. ERA being claimed as a 28th amendment didn't even crack the headlines for how much is going on and it isn't going to get better. Birthright citizenship was attacked with EO so that's a case that should be fast tracked.
 
Several police officers were assaulted
Sure, what should be the punishment then? Several people who didn't assault anyone were put into jail, some in solitary for years, many without trial and charges just pending to hold them there. So your solution is that for any offense, the state has the right to lock you up and throw away the key indefinitely?

Tell me, what are the sentences you disagreed with? Whose assault case specifically, since you seem to have an in-depth knowledge of Jan 6 offenders? Who should have stayed in jail. Every single one of the people held up until today?

Some are even dead because of this theater and you are spitting on their graves because you can’t think beyond what Glenn Greenwald tells you to.
Which ones are you talking about? of the Capitol Police, Brian Sicknick died on January 7th from a stroke, and four officers (Liebengood, Smith, Hashida, and DeFreytag) committed suicide in the following year, which can all only loosely be attributed to said riot at best. The only person killed in a violent manner was Babbit, and the sole blame for that is a trigger happy Michael Byrd who Biden just so happened to pardon.

I don't spit on anyone's graves, which is what you are doing by trying to use someone's death as a way to strengthen your sophistic point. It's a pathetic, pseudointellectual way to approach an argument, but it isn't anything I haven't seen with the students I've taught. There is no need for you to begin with insults, as I will insult you in many more creative, biting, and true ways, since you are, by my guess, a standard midwit at best.

It wasn’t a peaceful “protest”, it was a violent riot…So get over your victim complex about silencing “MAGA”…If the “deep state” had as much power as QAnon told you. Trump wouldn’t have won this year and he’d be in prison….
Again, it's really easy to spew this kind of mindless, retarded drivel when you have no ability to think linearly, categorizing anyone ideologically opposed to you as some deranged cultist. You categorize anyone that disagrees with you as "qanon", which is as accurate as me criticizing every person to the left of me as trans. Similar percentages at least.

If you don't believe in the "deep state," then you must be naïve. All it takes for one to exist is for there to be a conspiracy of influence, financial and political combined, nothing more.

There have been deep states throughout history, such as the Roman Catilinarian conspiracies and Triumvirates. They have been a part of US history as well, we just used to call them "Fifth Columns" as they were seen simply as ideologically opposed to us and allied with communists, while now they are symbiosis of state power, corporate power, and ideological power that dwarf the influence they had in the past.

Trump won this election because the Dems fucked the country up to unbelievable extents. People vote with their wallets, a shit economy is the first death knell of an administration, and even with all the gaslighting of "well akshually the stock market is at all time highs, the economy has never been better!" people felt it in their purchasing power and their ability to borrow. Enough people were fed up with it. Only the most diehard leftist believes in an open border, people were sick of watching literal millions waltz in across with not only no punishment, but debit cards filled with their tax dollars. Kamala was a fucking terrible candidate just like Hillary before her, for different reasons, but equally unlikeable. Trump really got two layups all things considered.

There is a deep state, but it isn't the comical conspiratorial version that you or schizos believe. It has power but it is not all powerful. If you don't recall they did try to put him in jail with a gazillion felonies. He was shot at twice. They pumped $2 Billion into Kamala's campaign, throwing it away, but having the ability to do so.

It is things like the Bilderberg Meeting, Bohemian Grove, Allen and Company SVC, Davos, and Epstein's island. It is billionaires and mega millionaires exercising class solidarity, mixed with state intel, banking bureaucracy, and an all reaching propaganda apparatus, which if you don't believe exists, has done its job perfectly of melting into the shadows in front of your very eyes.
 
His comments on Bidens pardons are in the part of his comment you left out...
And what stern words they were...

"I don't agree"

Okay, let me match that energy. Trump shouldn't have pardoned the J6 rioters. It was the wrong thing to do.
 
If they were not violent and not destructive to property, then cut them loose. I am sure there are a few exceptions, but that's how it should be handled. If he cut loose the violent ones too... that's a mistake and he should be called out.
+1 bro. I don't see how this is that hard for some people. None of us should be here defending letting out violent criminals regardless of politics. Some dude walking around taking pictures alright let them get a pardon. Attacking officers?? Bruh...
 
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