Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

[BFoe]

"No one who did that should have the expectation of getting out of it alive"

Another trivial life to you

Shame where following Trump lead her, no doubt.

 

[jk7707]

Assaulting police is terrible! Unless you're doing it for the Dear Leader. Seems like he's leaning into the convicted felon title.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Name the most violent J6 protestor who Trump pardoned, and describe what that person did. It will help me gauge how outraged I should be compared to shooting an unarmed woman dead.

First of all, if you feel that the actions against these officers should go unpunished then you are already fighting the wrong fight. The unjust actions one one party do not negate another

The 6 rioters who assaulted officer Fanone as a group causing him to have a heart attack and a TBI should be punished along with the rest of the rioters that hospitalized the other 14 officers that day.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I don't think any of the violent protestors were as violent as officer Michael Byrd was when he shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt on J6.

You should look up the specifics, and generate an opinion about them, before you ask me any more questions,
unless you would rather treat Ashli Babbitt's life as trivial.

Is that the woman that was breaking through the barricade that the cop had erected to protect some congressperson?

Because that was a good shoot. It's lucky he didn't shoot more people because every one of them that was trying to get through that barricade had it coming.

 

[gatchaman]

First of all, if you feel that the actions against these officers should go unpunished then you are already fighting the wrong fight. The unjust actions one one party do not negate another

The 6 rioters who assaulted officer Fanone as a group causing him to have a heart attack and a TBI should be punished along with the rest of the rioters that hospitalized the other 14 officers that day.

I have named officer Michael Byrd, who Biden pardoned, as the most violent person on J6 for shooting unarmed Ashli Babbitt.
I asked you to name the most violent J6 protestor that Trump pardoned. Why can't you provide a name?

 

[Lead]

I already said I wasn't okay with the violent ones being released. If Biden didn't already whole thing up there wouldn't even be a need for pardons. They even wanted to go after people that stepped on the lawn. You think thats right?

But I'm not following you with it being Biden's fault. If we have evidence who was violent or who destroyed property, Trump can easily exclude them. If there was anyone convicted for simply stepping on lawns or standing orderly in a line and confused about what was going on, he could've just pardoned them. These were courts involved too that reviewed the evidence for each person in making a determination of a sentence.

In terms of punishment, I would want it to be proportional to the crime as I think most would. Someone walked on grass, fine them or something. Someone broke the capital building window and walked through it? Jail. Someone attacked a capital officer? Jail. This is how law and order works. We see the actions of the individual and issue the sentence for it.

 

[Kingz]

https://www.newsweek.com/jackson-reffitt-terrifi

Pavlik still wants his dad to suffer. The left did a number on him.

Pretending like he’s afraid his old man is going to come after him to justify his betrayal. Even his two sisters thinks he’s being a little bitch

Also, he raised like a 1/4 milli from leftists for his college fund. He still attends 2 year college, after 4 years

Loser

 

[gatchaman]

Is that the woman that was breaking through the barricade that the cop had erected to protect some congressperson?

Because that was a good shoot. It's lucky he didn't shoot more people because every one of them that was trying to get through that barricade had it coming.

It was a good shoot, and should any future investigation find otherwise, then Michael Byrd is preemptively pardoned for it. Is this how things should be?

 

[Darkballs]

I have named officer Michael Byrd, who Biden pardoned, as the most violent person on J6 for shooting unarmed Ashli Babbitt.

I don't see how you think you're being clever here.

You're going to phrase it vaguely as "most violent," and then try to lump in a lawful shoot with guys beating the shit out of cops and spreading shit on the walls?

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but anyone that would be dumb enough to buy that logic is already soundly in your camp.

It was a good shoot, and should any future investigation find otherwise, then Michael Byrd is preemptively pardoned for it. Is this how things should be?

When a political party promises to harass your for doing your job, yeah. It's actually exactly why the pardon power was inserted into the Constitution.

 

[jk7707]

But I'm not following you with it being Biden's fault. If we have evidence who was violent or who destroyed property, Trump can easily exclude them. If there was anyone convicted for simply stepping on lawns or standing orderly in a line and confused about what was going on, he could've just pardoned them. These were courts involved too that reviewed the evidence for each person in making a determination of a sentence.

In terms of punishment, I would want it to be proportional to the crime as I think most would. Someone walked on grass, fine them or something. Someone broke the capital building window and walked through it? Jail. Someone attacked a capital officer? Jail. This is how law and order works. We see the actions of the individual and issue the sentence for it.

It's not an "IF". We do have the evidence on who was violent and who wasn't. Trump could have easily assigned people to go over the cases and make recommendations on which to pardon. You know why he didn't? Because he wanted to make a big splash on his first day, so he said fuck it. Pardon everyone.

 

[gatchaman]

I don't see how you think you're being clever here.

You're going to phrase it vaguely as "most violent," and then try to lump in a lawful shoot with guys beating the shit out of cops and spreading shit on the walls?

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but anyone that would be dumb enough to buy that logic is already soundly in your camp.

You quoted me but edited out this part: I asked you to name the most violent J6 protestor that Trump pardoned. Why can't you provide a name?

Also, I repeat myself from post #121: It was a good shoot, and should any future investigation find otherwise, then Michael Byrd is preemptively pardoned for it. Is this how things should be?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

It was a good shoot, and should any future investigation find otherwise, then Michael Byrd is preemptively pardoned for it. Is this how things should be?

It was a good shoot for sure that cop erected a barricade to protect congress people and there were people breaking through the barricade. I would have done the same thing for certain.

That is 100% a good shoot.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I have named officer Michael Byrd, who Biden pardoned, as the most violent person on J6 for shooting unarmed Ashli Babbitt.
I asked you to name the most violent J6 protestor that Trump pardoned. Why can't you provide a name?

Daniel Rodriguez who assaulted officer Fanone with a taser while the rest beat on him and robbed him (Thomas Sibick)

David Nicholas Dempsey who was curb stomping and assaulting officers with a pole and pepper spray.

There are literally dozens. Your deflecting is disgusting. And you using Babbitt as a prop for your deflecting is even more disgusting.

 

[gatchaman]

Daniel Rodriguez who assaulted officer Fanone with a taser while the rest beat on him and robbed him (Thomas Sibick)

David Nicholas Dempsey who was curb stomping and assaulting officers with a pole and pepper spray.

There are literally dozens. Your deflecting is disgusting. And you using Babbitt as a prop for your deflecting is even more disgusting.

Would you link me to the source that Trump pardoned Daniel Rodriguez specifically?
Would you link me to the source that Trump pardoned Nicholas Dempsey specifically?

 

[Mr Holmes]

But I'm not following you with it being Biden's fault. If we have evidence who was violent or who destroyed property, Trump can easily exclude them. If there was anyone convicted for simply stepping on lawns or standing orderly in a line and confused about what was going on, he could've just pardoned them. These were courts involved too that reviewed the evidence for each person in making a determination of a sentence.

In terms of punishment, I would want it to be proportional to the crime as I think most would. Someone walked on grass, fine them or something. Someone broke the capital building window and walked through it? Jail. Someone attacked a capital officer? Jail. This is how law and order works. We see the actions of the individual and issue the sentence for it.

We already know people were being jailed for nonviolent activity (often times held with out bail). Thats how Biden fucked this up. In a free society the justice system needs to be applied equally. But I suppose thats hard to do when you compare J6 to Pearl Harbor and need to make a big show of the prosecutions.

 

[nostradumbass]

 

[gatchaman]

I don't see how you think you're being clever here.

You're going to phrase it vaguely as "most violent," and then try to lump in a lawful shoot with guys beating the shit out of cops and spreading shit on the walls?

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but anyone that would be dumb enough to buy that logic is already soundly in your camp.



When a political party promises to harass your for doing your job, yeah. It's actually exactly why the pardon power was inserted into the Constitution.

Darkballs on the record as in favor of preemptive pardon for homicide

 

[KaNesDeath]

Scumbags, all of them.

 

[Darkballs]

Darkballs on the record as in favor of preemptive pardon for homicide

Calling a lawful shoot homicide as you cheer on traitors.

Try not to cut yourself on all that edge, boy.

 

[Lead]

It's not an "IF". We do have the evidence on who was violent and who wasn't. Trump could have easily assigned people to go over the cases and make recommendations on which to pardon. You know why he didn't? Because he wanted to make a big splash on his first day, so he said fuck it. Pardon everyone.

Yes. I'm trying to walk through this logically. I think it's clear they could've been segregated if there was a desire to do so. I just wanted Holmes stance before assuming one.

We already know people were being jailed for nonviolent activity (often times held with out bail). Thats how Biden fucked this up. In a free society the justice system needs to be applied equally. But I suppose thats hard to do when you compare J6 to Pearl Harbor and need to make a big show of the prosecutions.

I think you are saying Biden shouldn't have prosecuted those who didn't attack cops or destroy property, okay. But we agree here that doesn't impact whether Trump pardoned the others there. That's what I'm trying to point out. It isn't Biden's fault the violent offenders are pardoned right now.