Law Trump Georgia indictment watch

skold said:
Anyone remember the "Freedom Phone" that all the right wing talking heads were raving on about (for like 2 weeks)?

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All that ended up being was some cheap chinese knockoff purchased from aliexpress for like $30 and sold to magatards for $500
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I honestly forgot about that. I'm sure grifters made good money with this.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
he could rape their wives inside of a department store and they would still give him their money, votes, and full-on support.
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It might seem like an exaggeration, but it appears that way for at least a decent amount of the hardcore Trump fans. I've seen so many videos of Trump voters saying that there is nothing he could do that would make them not support him, likely because they would refuse to believe it or try to rationalize it. I know there's crazy people on both sides, but the whole cult of personality/golden calf/chosen one thing that's going on has no other political equivalent.
 
Whippy McGee said:
We get a misrepresentation of what happened by the MSM and Democrats
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"Oh, I don’t know, look Brad. I got to get … I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state."

"No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you?"

"And he knows, I can’t imagine that people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again I’ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? Cause those numbers are so wrong?"

"Because all we have to do Cleta is find 11,000-plus votes."
 
Whippy McGee said:
The transcript, provided by CNN says different. The answer is (B).

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

Here is Turley's take on it.

While others have portrayed the statement as a raw call for fabricating the votes, it seems more likely that Trump was swatting back claims that there was no value to a statewide recount by pointing out that he wouldn’t have to find a statistically high number of votes to change the outcome of the election. It is telling that many politicians and pundits refuse to even acknowledge that obvious alternate meaning.
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This is another case of Leftists / Democrats deciding what other people mean in the worst possible way and then attacking them for the Straw man they have erected. Democrat Playbook 101.
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Turley is full of shit.

Based on the transcript, Trump has absolutely no intention of using any critical or rationale argument for recounting votes.

The entire conversation is Trump attempting to get Brad to say or agree to committing to the idea that he won and making it public.

he spews out conspiracy agree conspiracy, blatantly false and fabricated information, and Brad refutes each one

Trump says “there’s nothing wrong with saying you recalculated” even after providing no legitimate means of that calculation

he also says “Your numbers are right.” But your numbers aren’t right. They’re really wrong and they’re really wrong, Brad. And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than, other than ultimately, you know — Look ultimately, I win, okay?”

GTFO with that stupid Turley bS
 
KaNesDeath said:
"Oh, I don’t know, look Brad. I got to get … I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state."

"No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you?"

"And he knows, I can’t imagine that people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again I’ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? Cause those numbers are so wrong?"

"Because all we have to do Cleta is find 11,000-plus votes."
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Good stuff... first... thanks for the thoughtful response.

I don't have any issues with the first quote. Trump should be able to say that without issue.

Trump has a right to think some things were goofy at that point. I'm heavy into data and analytics for my work. When I see a 100% voted for Biden and that happened with Hillary all over Philadelphia, it really sets off red flags. By simple mistake there should be a few mistakes, but we have zero votes for the other candidate? Is the area that entirely lockstep? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Third quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

Forth quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

For the claim to be that he wanted illegal activity to "find votes" is a reach too far from the transcripts. He just wants them found. If we recall other events like when Al Franken won, they kept finding votes all over the place. It's not like this hasn't overturned an election before.
 
Whippy McGee said:
I'm heavy into data and analytics for my work. When I see a 100% voted for Biden and that happened with Hillary all over Philadelphia, it really sets off red flags.
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Could you please share this data?

The data I see showed Biden winning 62% of the Philly vote, not 100%

If you are talking about individual precints within Philly, I'd love to see that data you are referencing.

I do however remember one of the news Networks having a graphical error on their screen saying that Biden won 100% somewhere. Is that what you are talking about?
 
Whippy McGee said:
Good stuff... first... thanks for the thoughtful response.

I don't have any issues with the first quote. Trump should be able to say that without issue.

Trump has a right to think some things were goofy at that point. I'm heavy into data and analytics for my work. When I see a 100% voted for Biden and that happened with Hillary all over Philadelphia, it really sets off red flags. By simple mistake there should be a few mistakes, but we have zero votes for the other candidate? Is the area that entirely lockstep? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Third quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

Forth quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

For the claim to be that he wanted illegal activity to "find votes" is a reach too far from the transcripts. He just wants them found. If we recall other events like when Al Franken won, they kept finding votes all over the place. It's not like this hasn't overturned an election before.
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The term copium is annoying as fuck but you are a fucking junkie.
 
Whippy McGee said:
Good stuff... first... thanks for the thoughtful response.

I don't have any issues with the first quote. Trump should be able to say that without issue.

Trump has a right to think some things were goofy at that point. I'm heavy into data and analytics for my work. When I see a 100% voted for Biden and that happened with Hillary all over Philadelphia, it really sets off red flags. By simple mistake there should be a few mistakes, but we have zero votes for the other candidate? Is the area that entirely lockstep? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Third quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

Forth quote... no big deal either. That's interpretation and subjective.

For the claim to be that he wanted illegal activity to "find votes" is a reach too far from the transcripts. He just wants them found. If we recall other events like when Al Franken won, they kept finding votes all over the place. It's not like this hasn't overturned an election before.
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no, he wants Brad to agree that he won and to state that the votes were recalculated, based on a list of disproven and falsified information.

and after each of those bull shit reasons is shot down, he ends by saying “find the votes.”

which demonstrates that he knowingly approved of saying he won Georgiea based on false claims of fraud


Sure, he didn’t want to “manufacture” votes, but he certainly wanted Brad to say he won without providing any real evidence
 
Fedor>Cain said:
Could you please share this data?

The data I see showed Biden winning 62% of the Philly vote, not 100%

If you are talking about individual precints within Philly, I'd love to see that data you are referencing.

I do however remember one of the news Networks having a graphical error on their screen saying that Biden won 100% somewhere. Is that what you are talking about?
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Certain precincts. Hillary won 100% of the vote in tons of precincts and every Math person raised an eyebrow.... no one ever challenged it or investigated.
 
DavidsGhost said:
no, he wants Brad to agree that he won and to state that the votes were recalculated, based on a list of disproven and falsified information.

and after each of those bull shit reasons is shot down, he ends by saying “find the votes.”

which demonstrates that he knowingly approved of saying he won Georgiea based on false claims of fraud


Sure, he didn’t want to “manufacture” votes, but he certainly wanted Brad to say he won without providing any real evidence
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That's your interpretation. It's just as easily argued differently. I would say Trump gets to clarify what he meant and others have already argued differently credibly.

This comes off as Witch Hunt 4.0, just like we had Peach Mints 1.0 and 2.0.
 
fingercuffs said:
No. You're in a cult. He even said it himself if he shot someone on 5th Avenue you mooks would still adore him. He thinks you're a bunch of twats for loving him but you still love him like a bunch of lemmings.
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projection. we saw a tactless baffoon win the presidency and you guys went apeshit and formed a hatemob cult to tear him down. for 8 years you guys wake up in the morning and go to bed at night with donny on the brain. get help.
 
Super_Nintendo said:
projection. we saw a tactless baffoon win the presidency and you guys went apeshit and formed a hatemob cult to tear him down. for 8 years you guys wake up in the morning and go to bed at night with donny on the brain. get help.
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Bro, you should really seek medical help. If this isn't an act, you are going to struggle later in life.
 
Pretty sure this is my favorite part of the perfect call to Raffensberger:
Trump: I don’t know. It doesn’t pass the smell test because we hear they’re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots and now what they’re saying, “Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office.” So I don’t think they’re cleaning.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.

Trump: Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media.
 
Did you guys see this?
Apparently a GA court website briefly listed a document detailing charges against Trump, dated today, and then removed it without explanation.


The two-page document cites the "Violation Of The Georgia Rico (Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations) Act," "Solicitation Of Violation Of Oath By Public Officer," "Conspiracy To Commit False Statements and Writings" and "Conspiracy To Commit Forgery in the First Degree," among other charges listed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-state-georgia-appears-set-165758928.html
 
BFoe said:
Did you guys see this?
Apparently a GA court website briefly listed a document detailing charges against Trump, dated today, and then removed it without explanation.


The two-page document cites the "Violation Of The Georgia Rico (Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations) Act," "Solicitation Of Violation Of Oath By Public Officer," "Conspiracy To Commit False Statements and Writings" and "Conspiracy To Commit Forgery in the First Degree," among other charges listed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-state-georgia-appears-set-165758928.html
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