Trump Dump / War Train vol 2

[ultramanhyata]

He has taken responsibility for his two failed marriages citing he neglected them for his work.

And he paid the price... Remarrying a younger model each time. The guy accepts the consequences of his actions without complaining. Commendable.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I have to respond to this because your post to me makes no damn sense. I'm talking about wives being fair game.



If their husbands had attacked their opponent's wives in ways that EVERYONE thought was dirty... they would have been. Or, at the very least, there would be nobody whining when people criticized their own wives for plagiarism.

I need some help here to answer you. What do you view as the specific reasoning that Trump's wife is fair game for the media to go after?

Is it that Trump went after someone's wife?

If so, then I hope you find the idea that voting for Trump because you hate Clinton as legitimate, as that is the exact same argument you are making.

Entity A is justified by entity B's actions. It is an equivocation in both cases. I'm not going to debate the merits of equivocation as a rational, but I will demand consistency.

 

[Fawlty]

OK, every first lady in the last 50 years has spoke at their convention, and it didn't make them fair game then.

LOL

Tell that to Hillary and Michelle, who were under the microscope constantly. You heard it here folks, plagiarism by a potential first lady at the RNC isn't a legitimate story. What a load of shit. And yes, plagiarism in a RNC speech is a story, period.

 

[VivaRevolution]

LOL

Tell that to Hillary and Michelle, who were under the microscope constantly. You heard it here folks, plagiarism by a potential first lady at the RNC isn't a legitimate story. What a load of shit.

Yeah, and every liberal I know screamed foul when it happened.

This shit right here, is why everyone thinks the Emperor's are wearing no clothes, on both sides.

Stop with this Bullshit, of excusing your team of being a complete piece of shit, because the other side is. It is a zero sum game, and race to the bottom.

 

[The Diplomat]

His biggest asset is his competence but a hater like you would probably be in denial about that.

If Trump had invested the money he had inherited in index funds, then he would be about $10 billion dollars richer than he is now with all of his wheelin' and dealin'. How's that for competent?

Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by theAssociated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.

The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

Other billionaires’ net worths have beaten the stock market’s growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet’s wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.

Another recent Associated Press report found that Trump is a much more cautious businessman than he lets on. “He holds few stocks for someone of his wealth and has grown increasingly dependent on making money by lending out his name to others rather than developing real estate himself,” the AP wrote.

http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

Trump Worth $10 Billion Less Than If He’d Simply Invested in Index Funds
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better-investing-donald-233020366.html

 

[Joe]

OK, every first lady in the last 50 years has spoke at their convention, and it didn't make them fair game then.

yeah you are conveniently forgetting all the michelle hates white people and america talk republicans did back in 2007 and 2008

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, and every liberal I know screamed foul when it happened.

This shit right here, is why everyone thinks the Emperor's are wearing no clothes, on both sides.

Stop with this Bullshit, of excusing your side being a complete piece of shit, because the other side is. It is a zero sum game, and race to the bottom.

Plagiarism in a speech at the RNC is a story, period.

Oh, and don't let me catch you criticizing Bill Clinton for anything not directly related to his time in office.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

I need some help here to answer you. What do you view as the specific reasoning that Trump's wife is fair game for the media to go after?

Is it that Trump went after someone's wife?

If so, then I hope you find the idea that voting for Trump because you hate Clinton as legitimate, as that is the exact same argument you are making.

Entity A is justified by entity B's actions. It is an equivocation in both cases. I'm not going to debate the merits of equivocation as a rational, but I will demand consistency.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay:

The media is not "going after" Trump's wife. They reported that she plagiarized her speech, which is a legitimate news story, especially considering who she plagiarized. Then there was a day of everyone talking in disbelief as Trump's handling of the affair turned a humourous story into a real story, with top Republicans criticizing Trump for the way he was handling it. Then the story turned into an even bigger story as the way Trump handled it turned something that was initially a non-story into a violation of campaign laws, which is an important story.

So, yeah, if you think this is the media going after Trump's wife, you've got your head up your ass. This is a non-story turning into a major story because, once again, Trump's mistakes tend to snowball.

Where you might have a point is the media digging up the fact that Melania is a college dropout who lied about her degree in architecture. I don't know what's been proven at this point, but, since nobody is voting for Melania to design buildings, I personally don't think that's an important news story at this point.

But this plagiarism snowball? Legitimate story, thanks to Trump.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

If Trump had invested the money he had inherited in index funds, then he would be about $10 billion dollars richer than he is now with all of his wheelin' and dealin'. How's that for competent?



http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

Trump Worth $10 Billion Less Than If He’d Simply Invested in Index Funds
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better-investing-donald-233020366.html

Where is the fun in that? The guy likes to work.

 

[Fawlty]

yeah you are conveniently forgetting all the michelle hates white people and america talk republicans did back in 2007 and 2008

If he's even old enough, he definitely remembers. He just white knighted himself into a corner here.

 

[VivaRevolution]

yeah you are conveniently forgetting all the michelle hates white and america talk republicans did back in 2007 and 2008

Yeah, and every liberal I know screamed foul when it happened.

This shit right here, is why everyone thinks the Emperor's are wearing no clothes, on both sides.

Stop with this Bullshit, of excusing your team of being a complete piece of shit, because the other side is. It is a zero sum game, and race to the bottom.

I voted for Obama in 08, Gary Johnson in 12, and gave Bernie 1,000$ this primary.

I don't have a team.

 

[The Diplomat]

Yeah, and every liberal I know screamed foul when it happened.

This shit right here, is why everyone thinks the Emperor's are wearing no clothes, on both sides.

Stop with this Bullshit, of excusing your team of being a complete piece of shit, because the other side is. It is a zero sum game, and race to the bottom.

Yeah I'm sure calling someone out for stealing a speech at the RNC is really out of bounds. Melania will cry herself to sleep in her $10,000 bed.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay:

The media is not "going after" Trump's wife. They reported that she plagiarized her speech, which is a legitimate news story, especially considering who she plagiarized. Then there was a day of everyone talking in disbelief as Trump's handling of the affair turned a humourous story into a real story, with top Republicans criticizing Trump for the way he was handling it. Then the story turned into an even bigger story as the way Trump handled it turned something that was initially a non-story into a violation of campaign laws, which is an important story.

So, yeah, if you think this is the media going after Trump's wife, you've got your head up your ass. This is a non-story turning into a major story because, once again, Trump's mistakes tend to snowball.

If you looked at the majority of 1st lady's with a microscope, you could find a "legitimate story."

 

[Deleted member 429137]

If you looked at the majority of 1st lady's with a microscope, you could find a "legitimate story."

Every first lady story is legitimate when their husband screws up and turns it into a legal quagmire.

I edited my post and I don't think you got a chance to read the edit. It may clarify my thoughts for you and find common ground between us.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Trump lied about who wrote a speech, Hillary lied about her emails that put the entire nation in jeopardy.

Ya Trump can't win at all.

You don't even try to understand what you're reading before you jerk your knee into "but hillary"-isms.

I meant that no matter what he does he gets attacked for it. Which I think you'll agree with. If you pull your head out of your ass.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Yeah I'm sure calling someone out for stealing a speech at the RNC is really out of bounds. Melania will cry herself to sleep in her $10,000 bed.

Did Melania steal that speech?

I mean if she wrote that, perhaps she should be president, because last I checked, all these fucks read the writing of someone else.

This is a non-story that has been running for 3 days now.

I was watching CNN(I know, here's the problem) this morning and saw coverage of Trump Jr.s speech. They were going on and on about how much more Trump Jr. seems to know of policy, and understanding the issues.......WTF......Trump Jr. was reading someone else's words.

It is all BS!

This is why Bernie, and Trump did so well this election. I learn nothing about who the next president is going to be, by listening to a speech writer's words. People know when they are being lied to, and repeating someone else's words as if they are your own, is a lie, and one the media is complicit in.

Calling Obama a great teleprompter reader, is a far more accurate statement, then saying he is a great orator.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Every first lady story is legitimate when their husband screws up and turns it into a legal quagmire.

I edited my post and I don't think you got a chance to read the edit. It may clarify my thoughts for you and find common ground between us.

I'm not claiming it isn't a legit story by the average standard. My point is how hypocritical it is for the media to attack Trump for lowering the bar, while they throw away a moral standard(That the 1st lady is not seeking political office, and is off limits as they did not volunteer to be put under scrutiny).

 

[ncordless]

You know what jumps out to me about the speech story and Trump's wife?

There was a time when a candidates wife was off limits.

I don't look at that story and have a problem with Trump or his wife, I have a problem with the media, as it claims Trump is lowering the conversation by race-baiting, and at the same time going after the wife of a politician.

What's next media, you going after his kids next?

You mean like they laid off of Hillary when she was furst lady?

The time a candidate's wife was off limits was back when she didn't get into the politics. Talk shit, fair game to get hit

 

[VivaRevolution]

You mean like they laid off of Hillary when she was furst lady?

The time a candidate's wife was off limits was back when she didn't get into the politics. Talk shit, fair game to get hit

I have already responded to this twice.

Fuck all you people that want to tear this country down, by making excuses for being pieces of shit, because the other side is a piece of shit.

 

[J. Bernie Cunningham]

You are one big logical fallacy.

Great response. Sorry the idea of finding Trump credible brought you to logic fallacy land, you probably could of come up with something better.

So let's say you need to buy one of two vehicles. One vehicle runs, but has bad gas mileage, the other has no engine. I would take the car that has bad gas mileage based on the fact the other has no engine. When you need to make a choice why the fuck wouldn't you look at both of them together?

Hillary is a criminal. Trump is a business man with a vision for America. Hillary cares only for what the polls tell her to care for in order to get elected.

Let's say you live in a world with a lot of dealerships who sell a lot more than two old shitty cars. And one of those was still this country.