Law Trump appointed judge blocks OT pay for millions of workers

[Blayt7hh]

This is the first I'm hearing that there are salaried positions that get overtime pay. That must be nice.

Yeah I thought that was the defining feature of a salary

 

[Rob Battisti]

I'm salaried and I get overtime if I want it (I can never be bothered to do it though).

Don't you guys get at least time and a half?

You’re in the UK.

There is something called exempt and non-exempt here.

Salaried workers don’t get OT. Hourly workers do.

I’ll look into this, but if it was to give salaried workers OT it would have been logistically impossible to do so.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Wait so once you've worked your contracted hours you can't just go home?

You work until the job is done. It’s the difference between hourly and salary

 

[Rob Battisti]

Yeah I thought that was the defining feature of a salary

It is.

I am very familiar with labor laws but even I didn’t realize there was a salary threshold possibility.

I would have sided to expand it even with the logistical nightmare that would have followed.

 

[Witchhunt]

Remove folks right to enter in to voluntary agreements.
Yeah!

 

[Hellowhosthat]

You work until the job is done. It’s the difference between hourly and salary

Seems like a jib to me. If there's too much work for your workers to do in the hours you contracted them to then you should have hired more workers.

 

[Squarechoke]

Not paying for overtime is very odd and not something I even encountered when I stayed a few months in the US to look over of a couple of companies that the company I work for owns. A salary should generally be for a set amount of hours and then either some extra OT pay and comp time, or just your equivalent hourly pay plus extra OT pay. I'd understand if we're talking people in high positions in bigger companies as that's expected for them to have to work more, but then you instead have a very high base salary.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though as the workers at the companies I looked over were happy with their treatment compared to many alternatives, while I thought they were treated downright poorly apart from getting a fair salary.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Wait so once you've worked your contracted hours you can't just go home?

Not if someone calls off or things need to get done. ( someone always calls off, and there is always things that need to get done )

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Not if someone calls off or things need to get done. ( someone always calls off, and there is always things that need to get done )

I'd still be expecting to get overtime if I stayed to do some other dude's work lol. WTF.

 

[deviake]

Labor Department exceeded its authority
Bidens admin has a history of doing that like OSHA


But orange man bad..

Yeah, I know that's the purpose or at least the sales pitch for it, but it would take a little while to look up the harm vs benefit based on a bunch of different things. The initial on just the google search shows it's actually more than I even thought, and is actually a majority in "sales industries" who just get a base salary but make the majority of their money on commissions.

The first example I know of personally that doesn't even fit into this numerically but does conceptually is my friend's company that has engineers on salary who also get commission on project completion. The engineers make more money than he does after paying for salaries, fabrication, changes, installations, equipment rentals etc, so increasing payroll would likely mean the project is a loss, so why even do it?

I'm not a big fan of blanket policies generally, but the obvious adjustment here from employers if it went through is to shrink or get rid of commission, move them to hourly or make them independent contractors and save the money in benefits, so they end up making less, or the company just goes out of business, and apparently that would be the majority of sales based positions. Would maybe be different if the yearly average to over 40 hrs, but it doesn't look like that's that case for most of them, and that would just be asking for a raise anyway.

 

[Sinister]

You work until the job is done. It’s the difference between hourly and salary

I worked for a big Advertising firm in Florida where my department lead tried to tell me this crap.

"Yeah man, we dont go home around here until the work is done."

Guy was mad I was ONLY leaving an hour late because I was still in College and had to take 8pm classes. I also got in an hour earlier than him every morning. My reply was:

"We get new accounts every day. Theres no such thing as the work being 'done.' If you want that done leave it in my box and I promise it will be finished before you get here in the morning."

Apparently he didnt like me being such a smarty-pants because I had to go see HR the next day at his behest. He didn't tell me, they did. They actually had the nerve to ask my why I even NEEDED to finish my schooling since I was already working in the industry.

That place was sad. One of my co-workers was always there when I got there and when I left, had been there 7 years. He made the same salary I did.

 

[emefer]

I know a guy whose employer got around the overtime rule by giving him a raise to like 20 bucks more than the cutoff limit. He was on his 7th 15 hour day in a row when he told me that.

 

[Gref]

I know a guy whose employer got around the overtime rule by giving him a raise to like 20 bucks more than the cutoff limit. He was on his 7th 15 hour day in a row when he told me that.

Shieeet. I'd rather die.

 

[Copper Burner]

Party of the working class in action.

Add in banning taking breaks from extreme heat for some Xtra freedom

I could imagine all of the whiny crybabies complaining about the heat so that they can go and take a break.

Don't like the heat? Find a job that does require you to work in it. It's simple.

 

[Sinister]

I could imagine all of the whiny crybabies complaining about the heat so that they can go and take a break.

Don't like the heat? Find a job that does require you to work in it. It's simple.

Ur so tough

 

[Workers United]

Remove folks right to enter in to voluntary agreements.
Yeah!

Do you believe in there being a minimum wage?

 

[Copper Burner]

Ur so tough

I think you would be surprised limp wrist.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

https://www.fastcompany.com/91230653/overtime-pay-millions-workers-blocked-texas-judge

A federal judge in Texas has blocked a new rule from the Biden administration that would have expanded access to overtime pay to millions more salaried workers across the U.S.

On Friday, U.S. District Judge Sean Jordan sided with the state of Texas and a group of business organizations that argued the Labor Department exceeded its authority when it finalized a rule earlier this year to significantly expand overtime pay for salaried workers—ruling that the department could not prioritize employee wages over job duties when determining eligibility.

Under the federal law, nearly all hourly workers in the U.S. are entitled to overtime pay after 40 hours a week. But many salaried workers are exempt from that requirement—unless they earn below a certain level.

The Labor Department’s now-scuttled rule would have marked the biggest increase to that cap in decades. Employers were required pay overtime to salaried workers who make less than $43,888 a year in certain executive, administrative and professional roles as of July 1—and that was set to rise to $58,656 next year.

The Labor Department estimated that an additional four million lower-paid salary workers would become eligible for overtime protections in the first year under the new rule. An additional 292,900 higher-compensated workers were also expected to get overtime entitlements through separate threshold increases.
Now, the previous threshold of $35,568—which was set in 2019 under the Trump administration—is poised to go back into effect.

Edit: Worker's rights attorney explains:



The freedom state. Making America Great. Again.

What has the fact that trump appointed the judge got to do with it?

 

[pinger]

I think you would be surprised limp wrist.

Why do the smallest dogs always yap so loud?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I think you would be surprised limp wrist.

I doubt it lmao, I asked whether you have any fitness or combat related hobbies and you declined to answer because you don't.