Trudeau is putting illegal border crossers into hotels

[Devout Pessimist]

All that CNN article talks about is, again, immigration. As I said before, it's the only policy that ever gets any attention, although that's better than the usual no-policy attacks on his personality. The only mention of economic policy that it makes is blaming job insecurity on US-caused trade uncertainty.

Also, your two parts re economic policy are conflicting. Yes, as I said, he has failed to tax the rich to my liking, but his policies are unarguably friendly to business and investment. Do you really think that the conservative alternative would tax the wealthy and corporations more? No, they'd tax them far less, distribute the tax burden downward like all conservative parties do, and pursue largely the same policies as Trudeau has re business and investment.

This is like saying Barack Obama was too geared toward the rich and against the middle class, so you'd prefer GWB or Trump. It's nonsensical.

That is a fair criticism. The liberals reduced taxes on small businesses and closed certain loopholes. The problem with the new proposal is that we don't know what it will look like when it has been implemented for some time and if it will possibly create more problems and complications for small business. A lot of people are not happy about the changes.

Maclean's:

How Bill Morneau found himself at war with small business

 

[Ayin]

So has the US begun acting in violation of the STC agreement?

What do you mean by "spread of the knowledge of the limitations"? Are you suggesting refugees, themselves, are somehow exploiting loopholes in the treaty??

Yes. The knowledge of the limitations (specifically in regards to irregular border crossing/illegal entry) has become widely known through the use of social media, which has caused the Federal Canadian government to attempt it’s own information campaign to slow the flow of people from other countries who plan to use the process (travel to US, cross to Canada at well known and equipped irregular points) from their home countries (by having diplomats at those nations embassies attempt to explain that such a process guarantees nothing).

It’s actually a very interesting study in social media. Many here blame Trudeau’s social media comments for the situation, and although they likely had some effect (as did media hysteria around Trump and immigration/refugee issues and the fear they have caused) the real interest has been the process by which individual social media accounts have led to a systemizaruon or even normalization of something in such a short time. Several early crosser stories dealt with people who became aware of the possibility through peers social media accounts and themselves legitimately attempting to sneak across the border, often at great risk (sometimes suffering frostbite from getting lost at night in Canada during winter) and as media coverage of such events spread knowledge, numbers increased further, and there are now semi-permanent camps to process people crossing at the two or three specific “irregular” areas.


I personally don’t think any politician here (Canada) has done anything WRONG or has caused this, nor do I have a better plan, because there is no simple solution, but it is a great example of how governments are going to struggle with slow bureaucracies in dealing with the speed of change in the social media landscape.

 

[Tiny]

When reality doesn't live up to libtard dreams.

 

[Soul Crusher]

Why am I not surprised to see no shame lying Trotsky defending traitor Trudeau.

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[salamander]

Horseshit. Almost everything posted about Trudeau on here is ad hominem, exaggeration, or just plain made up. There is a concerted campaign to discredit him reminiscent of the way Clinton was (mis)treated.

With respect: I strenously disagree with you on this.

The media has been fawning all over him since he got elected, but even the left wing comedian dude John Oliver was quoted as saying that Trudeau "...overshot the runway of his own popularity." by way of comment on some the mistakes he has made.

 

[Pseudo Sane]

He is, yes. He absolutely is.



I have some. Trudeau is significantly better than the right-of-center alternative in every way I mentioned. Even in the areas where I have been disappointed by him (coziness with oil/gas, unwillingness to hike taxes on the rich, failing to more vigilantly fight for private sector unions) he's been better than the conservative alternative.

I have to disagree with this. Although the Conservatives are very business-friendly, in their most recent iteration (under Harper), they were explicitly interested in small and medium enterprises rather than big corporations.

The Liberals have a long, history of running from the left socially and then governing as crony capitalists. They have been Canada's natural governing party for a long time, which means they were the party of Bay Street, and of a lot of very wealthy interests in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes in particular; moreso than the current Conservative Party, which draws a lot of influence from the populist and largely rural Reform movement of the 1990s.

Follow the money. Here is an old article on political donations, before the Chretien and Harper governments lowered the cap for donations to $5000 and then to $1000 per person https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/donations-to-liberals-hit-159-million/article4137325/ (Note that Chretien did this as he was being forced out of politics by his successor, Paul Martin, as a Fuck You on his way out the door). The Liberals were always the party of massive corporate donations, because they were (and are) the party of corporate interests.

I actually think that Trudeau is genuinely interested in issues of social justice and gender equity, since it has been the one thing he has consistently pushed in the last 3 years, but the Liberal party as a whole is full of wealthy, well-connected machine politicians who make sure that they get theirs. This isn't to say that Conservatives are immune to this sort of thing; Brian Mulroney, for one, was personally corrupt, for all his various accomplishments.

Cases in point:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4210266/critics-trudeau-liberals-bill-ease-corporate-crime-penalties/
https://globalnews.ca/news/3354398/bombardier-trudeau-hammered/
http://pressprogress.ca/bay_street_...ise_to_close_ceo_tax_loophole_documents_show/