Social Transgender Megathread Vol. 2

[terrapin]

The court filing is actually insane.

Five years ago the trans movement's position was that you can't conflate sex with gender, and that they're different concepts. Now the position is that one's gender identity is their sex.

It's almost as if they're just making it all up as they go along to achieve their desired ends.

as ive researched into this the last few months ive discovered that many trans activists (not necessarily trans people themselves) belief that words actually create reality... they believe that if you rid the world of language that accurately designates the difference between men and women those differences may fade away. its a genuine philosophical underpinning for some of them.

i listened to a ted talks where a trans woman was expounding this belief and talking about remaking the whole world, and what a utopia they could create ridding gender designations and remaking the whole world. they believe trans people are naturally more free from the lie of the present world and so the best suited to re-design it.

there is a line of philosophy that believes this but there also may be some new age thinking involved for some of these people too. this makes much of the trans movement a faith based linguistic movement meant to obfuscate language in order to redefine reality itself.

 

[Iconoclast]

The court filing is actually insane.

Five years ago the trans movement's position was that you can't conflate sex with gender, and that they're different concepts. Now the position is that one's gender identity is their sex.

It's almost as if they're just making it all up as they go along to achieve their desired ends.

What's their end game though?

 

[terrapin]

What's their end game though?

read my edited post above for insight into SOME of the trans activists thoughts on the matter. as a deeply religious person i could steelman their perspective from a pretty sympathetic perspective even. i dont agree with them but do think i understand a lot of where some of these people are coming from in some ways.

i have felt a lot of love for them lately in relation to this in fact.

 

[Eusung]

"So...are you saying you would just let your kids go through puberty?!?!!"





Really entertaining video

 

[Flower2dPeople]

"So...are you saying you would just let your kids go through puberty?!?!!"





Really entertaining video

What a surprise, a single person(orange vest lady) with no children is very opinionated on this topic. No sane parent-left or right-would agree to this bs.

Edit: She's lesbian and married.

 

[Billy no mates]

What a surprise, a single person(orange vest lady) with no children is very opinionated on this topic. No sane parent-left or right-would agree to this bs.

Edit: She's lesbian and married.

It's so odd to see people pathologizing something as normal as puberty , while normalizing medically and surgically altering children

 

[EndlessCritic]

What's their end game though?

Currently? Their particular ends are to prohibit any type of organization of women which in any way excludes trans-women (ie: segregation based on sex, as opposed to gender). And so their current strategy to defeat this is to 1) Deny that sex as a biological category exists, and 2) Redefine sex as simply including gender identity.

1 is of course absolute nonsense. 2 is a linguistic game being played, which is directly contrary to their entire narrative 5 years ago that gender and sex were distinct categories.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

The court filing is actually insane.

Five years ago the trans movement's position was that you can't conflate sex with gender, and that they're different concepts. Now the position is that one's gender identity is their sex.

It's almost as if they're just making it all up as they go along to achieve their desired ends.

BuT sLiPpErY SlOPes is FaCist PrOpoGanDa

 

[Denter]

read my edited post above for insight into SOME of the trans activists thoughts on the matter. as a deeply religious person i could steelman their perspective from a pretty sympathetic perspective even. i dont agree with them but do think i understand a lot of where some of these people are coming from in some ways.

i have felt a lot of love for them lately in relation to this in fact.

To everything there is a season,

and a time for every purpose under heaven: a time to be born and a time to die,

a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal,

a time to break down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh,

a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together,

a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, a time to search and a time to count as lost,

a time to keep and a time to discard, a time to tear and a time to mend,

a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate,

a time for war and a time for peace.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

I was with them until it was commanded that you ignore science and biology. Someone like Buck Angel says that they will always be a biological female but deep inside they’ve always felt like a man. So they’ve decided to get surgery and live life like a man. I can totally respect that.

But there are others that are born biologically one way, say they are the opposite sex and that it’s the same thing. I’ve seen guys in dresses with 5 o clock shadow and deeper voices than me say they are women. They believe they are identical to biological women and that’s where they lose me.

If they were like Buck and say they simply identify as female, that’s fine. Identical and that you are the opposite sex when you aren’t? I just can’t.

I’m sure it’s tough though. If you feel like you were born in the wrong body and you can truly never be the other sex, that’s probably a tough existence. Still, I don’t think pretending sex and biology are a construct helps things.

 

[RoastBeast]

I was with them until it was commanded that you ignore science and biology. Someone like Buck Angel says that they will always be a biological female but deep inside they’ve always felt like a man. So they’ve decided to get surgery and live life like a man. I can totally respect that.

But there are others that are born biologically one way, say they are the opposite sex and that it’s the same thing. I’ve seen guys in dresses with 5 o clock shadow and deeper voices than me say they are women. They believe they are identical to biological women and that’s where they lose me.

If they were like Buck and say they simply identify as female, that’s fine. Identical and that you are the opposite sex when you aren’t? I just can’t.

I’m sure it’s tough though. If you feel like you were born in the wrong body and you can truly never be the other sex, that’s probably a tough existence. Still, I don’t think pretending sex and biology are a construct helps things.

Don't we all feel like we were born in the wrong body? I'm sure most dudes would love to look like Brad Pitt and be hung like a porn star but we got what we got. Eventually we all realize that we aren't the best looking, tallest, buffest, funniest, smartest and most charming person out there. We strive toward improving ourselves, take humility in the things we can't change and do our best to present ourselves in the manner we want the world to see us.

We don't try and force women to think we're good looking or force our way into Harvard despite having average IQs. We don't try to force the world to view us in the same vein we want to be viewed simply because we'll feel bad if you don't accept our fantasy of how we think we should be viewed.

The issue with this movement is they want to force a false reality on the rest of us. No one really had an issue until they started with this nonsense. They think their feelings take precedent over everyone else's feelings and reality itself.

 

[The_Renaissance]

I was with them until it was commanded that you ignore science and biology. Someone like Buck Angel says that they will always be a biological female but deep inside they’ve always felt like a man. So they’ve decided to get surgery and live life like a man. I can totally respect that.

But there are others that are born biologically one way, say they are the opposite sex and that it’s the same thing. I’ve seen guys in dresses with 5 o clock shadow and deeper voices than me say they are women. They believe they are identical to biological women and that’s where they lose me.

If they were like Buck and say they simply identify as female, that’s fine. Identical and that you are the opposite sex when you aren’t? I just can’t.

I’m sure it’s tough though. If you feel like you were born in the wrong body and you can truly never be the other sex, that’s probably a tough existence. Still, I don’t think pretending sex and biology are a construct helps things.

Those people have always existed. Born in the wrong body. It's a real thing I agree
But it's MINISCULE.

What we're seeing now isn't MINISCULE. It's social hysteria and contagion. Most of these young trannies would've just been bisexual experimenting goths in 2005. Now they're being advised to mutilate themselves for life. For a phase.

It's "cutting" gone wild and encouraged by pharma. Lifelong customers.

 

[sangreporsangre]

This is an interesting angle on the "innate, unchanging (unless it's fluid) gender identity" concept and might actually be the key to proving or disproving the whole thing. So many liberals claim to believe that there has always been the same rate of "trans and nonbinary folks" throughout history but they didn't feel comfortable "coming out" in years past because it wasn't the tolerant, welcoming era of the Current Year - although simultaneously they claim to believe that there is an ongoing genocide of trans people, but I digress. But if that's true shouldn't there have been a recurring phenomenon over the decades of elderly people with dementia reverting to a "gender identity that doesn't align with the sex they were assigned at birth"? In other words, the exact opposite of the scenario posted above?

One would think that it would be a fairly common occurrence in nursing homes, seeing as how many stunning and brave trans folks have walked the Earth. It's not like they could continue to deny their authentic self when suffering from dementia. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing happening? Anyone witnessed it with a grandparent or other elderly relative?

 

[Rob Battisti]

I wondered what a "chief impact officer" actually does but apparently is job is to determine exactly who is REALLY "nonbinary" and who isn't. Doesn't this go against the entire belief system? If these men are just pretending to believe that they're not really men, could that be happening in other contexts as well?

I’ve attended GH for 5 of the last 6 years.

It’s actually a very uplifting event for women and I don’t agree with guys gaming the system there.

Obviously, the whole gender situation is absurd on its face, but this doesn’t feel right.

Perhaps, though, these things need to keep happening in order or everyone to realize how insane this movement is.

 

[ShadowRun]

“Dey not coming for your kids , OMG!”

 

[sangreporsangre]

But it's not a fetish?

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[sangreporsangre]