Social Transgender Megathread Vol. 2

[BearGrounds]

Fuck off with this bullshit.

The average AMA member probably does more for society in one average working day than you have in your entire life, you masturbatory shithead.

 

[Lubaolong]

It's important to know that these elective surgeries for minors is also profit driven.

Yes, that’s the latest conservative theory. Doctors aren’t speaking out about child mutilation because they are rich off of it. Mutilate a child and get a patient for life.

 

[Renard]

It's true, the surgeons involved in this are making as much as brain surgeons without needing anywhere close to that level of expertise. Demand is also soaring. In addition to this a lot of people don't realize the surgeries are approved as EUA only; in other words there's no liability if something goes wrong. So if you're a surgeon without any morals, you can make bank on this stuff and for the most part not deal with any kind of fallout even if the patient experiences poor outcomes.

 

[cincymma79]

Yes, that’s the latest conservative theory. Doctors aren’t speaking out about child mutilation because they are rich off of it. Mutilate a child and get a patient for life.

It’s a factor. Small or not. Or maybe I should sharpen my point some, the surgeons doing this have at least some bias in terms of income from these surgeries. They just do.

 

[Bry]

@IamStryker,
I don't know anything about Matt Walsh, but I laughed my ass off listening to this, thank you.

Bry

 

[IamStryker]

Yes, that’s the latest conservative theory. Doctors aren’t speaking out about child mutilation because they are rich off of it. Mutilate a child and get a patient for life.

More like hospitals. There's a video of a hospital telling doctors if they dont want to do these surgeries they have to leave. Because of the profit.

 

[IamStryker]

@IamStryker,
I don't know anything about Matt Walsh, but I laughed my ass off listening to this, thank you.



Bry

Dude he is usually that funny. He puts out an hour long show most weekdays. If you have the time I highly recommend.

 

[lifelessheap]

Fuck off with this bullshit.

The average AMA member probably does more for society in one average working day than you have in your entire life, you masturbatory shithead.

The AMA was founded and funded by the Rockefeller family when they realized they could make drugs from oil.

God, you are silly.




Eat your petro-chemicals like a good boy. They push drugs for profit. They want sick people.

 

[Matsukaze]

Huh? Because there's been priests before there's no reason to be concerned about dudes in dresses ? What?



Same amount as priests I know. 0. Doesn't mean there's not priests fucking kids or drag queens right?

US — Franklin County, North Carolina. Following a two-year investigation, Brice Patric Ryschon Williams was charged with 25 counts Possession Of Child Pornography, a Class 2 felony, as well as 18 counts of Criminal Use Of A Communications Facility, Tri-State Alert reported on June 23, 2022. Williams is a drag queen who goes by the name Anastasia Diamond, and who has participated in drag events across Pennsylvania. In 2020, Williams won the LGBT Center of Central PA ‘Rising Star’ award. A former HIV medical case manager with Keystone Health Center in Chambersburg, Williams was working for GLO Harrisburg, a center providing a ‘safe space’ for LGBTQ+ youth of color, at the time of the arrest.


William Travis Dees, a former transgender prostitute, served as a ‘greeter’ for young children as they came into the library, even though he had been convicted of sex crimes against four children (aged 4, 5, 6 and 8) and is listed as a “high-risk sex offender.”

This revelation came after Houston city officials had already apologised after it emerged that Alberto Garza, one of the drag queens who had read to children and goes by the name ‘Tatiana Mala-Niña’, has a conviction for sexually assaulting an 8-year-old boy.

Last year, Brett Blomme, the president and CEO of the Cream City Foundation, which operates the Milwaukee Drag Queen Story Hour for local children, was arrested and charged with possessing child pornography depicting the sexual abuse of underage boys, including toddlers. He was later sentenced to nine years in prison.

In 2018 British Airways hired two drag queens to represent the national airline at Brighton Pride on a float that toured the seaside city. One of them, Darren Sewell, aka ‘Crystal Couture’, was convicted of four counts of rape of a boy under 16 in 1999 and broke a court order banning him from contact with children in 2011.

In 2013 Robert Clothier, drag name ‘Lady James’, was jailed after being caught in a police sting operation. He thought he was meeting a man and the two of them were to rape the other man’s two children, a boy of 8 and an 11-year-old girl.

When arrested, he was carrying chocolate-flavoured glow-in-the-dark condoms, girl’s underwear, Easter eggs, heart-shaped hairbands and a Lego toy.

One of the most shocking stories of them all is Kristian Churchill, aka Krystle Caress, who was reported for inappropriate relationships with boys under 16. He was so angry with this that he tried to kill two women by driving into them. Both women survived, but suffered horrific life-altering injuries.

They don't want examples or facts... they just want a 5 year old to be able to change genders .....because... you know most of them think they are superheroes too

 

[IamStryker]

Fuck off with this bullshit.

The average AMA member probably does more for society in one average working day than you have in your entire life, you masturbatory shithead.

Someones triggered. I remember you are the weirdo who also argues that children can consent. Please explain that. Why do you think minors have the capacity to consent?

 

[Lubaolong]

It’s a factor. Small or not. Or maybe I should sharpen my point some, the surgeons doing this have at least some bias in terms of income from these surgeries. They just do.

If you work for a university, you are paid a salary. These doctors working in academic teaching hospitals make less than doctors in private practice. Doesn’t make sense.

It's true, the surgeons involved in this are making as much as brain surgeons without needing anywhere close to that level of expertise. Demand is also soaring. In addition to this a lot of people don't realize the surgeries are approved as EUA only; in other words there's no liability if something goes wrong. So if you're a surgeon without any morals, you can make bank on this stuff and for the most part not deal with any kind of fallout even if the patient experiences poor outcomes.

Sounds like lots of misinformation. Plastic surgeons have always been at the top of the salary surveys. Incredibly difficult specialty to get into, very long training. They make bank doing whatever procedures they choose to do.

 

[UFCUCF]

A child can't consent. They're a child. The fact that you don't even understand the issue with letting children consent to these types of things, is just disturbing on so many levels.

The age of consent in the majority of Red States and at the Federal level is 16. I am not saying that I agree with this, but your argument (and your personal attack on me) are based on a false premise.

So, since you were initially "disturbed" about children consenting to surgery, are you now extremely distraught to learn that children are consenting to sex?

In GA, for instance, the age of consent is 16. Are you disturbed that the Governor and the republican Legislature allow this?

 

[Scerpi]

The right’s fascination with this is gross. What business is it of this nutcase, Shapiro? If some consenting adult, or some consenting child and their family make a decision along with their doctor and a reputable University Med School to, for example, remove (or not remove ) healthy breast tissue? Maybe Shapiro could just mind his f#$king business.

There are what, 10,000 of these surgeries per year in the US? a small fraction of those are under 18 and a small fraction of those occur at this University. (Glutches pearls!)

But, a million DEAD from Covid 19 at that’s a “nothing Burger” to the right.

What about the children? Fine, about 1 in 7 children in the US experienced abuse or neglect in the last year, per the CDC. Where is Shapiro on this? Why the intense interest the sexual identities and sexual medical decisions of minors and their families?

Have you visited the DeTrans page in Reddit?

It's story after story of young people who were talked into and even cohersed into transitioning at a young age and fucking themselves up. Now they're dealing with the ramifications and forever life changing decisions they made in their teens.

What's your fucking issue with Teachers and Schools advocating for young kids transitioning. It's fucking sick. And now it looks like there's huge money incentives as well.

Stop fucking with kids who have no real idea what they want.

Go lord, you're a fucking sicko if you think this shit ok. Please explain why you support this.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Yes, gross because the grifters come up with this Qanon/pizzagate nonsense and since it is kids and sex It sells like hotcakes to the sexually repressed religious tribalists. This isn’t about protecting the kids it’s so obviously about owning the libs and persecuting sexual minorities.

A consenting child is as opposed to a non consenting child.

No, society should intervene to stop child abuse. I suppose we have a different view of child abuse. So, since you are clearly opposed to medical doctors at licensed and insured medical facilities and a University Hotpital performing a procedure than you must really be against parents striking or battering their children, right?

Or, are you pro state sanctioned battery on children , but you draw the line at state sanctioned surgery on children?

1 surgery is too much? Are you a doctor? Wow, you are incredibly solid in your position when it involves what other people should or shouldn’t be doing.

I bet if you have children that you batter them…against their consent.

You are one sick individual. So is @James Bomb

 

[UFCUCF]

I’m just curious where you draw a line with a “consenting child”

1. Can a 13 yr old consent to having sex with a 40 year old?
2. Can a 13 yr old give consent to having a face tattoo?
3. Can a 13 yr old give consent to no longer going to school.

These are just a couple examples a yes/no answer for each would suffice. Thank you

1. In a MAJORITY of Red States and at the federal level a 16 year old can consent to having sex. I would draw the line for the operation at least at the age of consent (again, this is also with parental consent and a licensed bard certified doctor).

2. No. But I would think if some nutcase parents wanted their 17 to have a face tattoo and the kid consented, I don’t think the government should step in. Remember this 17 year old can sign up for military service and has been driving a car for a year.

3. No. But I think in a majority of Red States, a parent can make the choice to homeschool their kid.

My turn:

1. Should state laws against battery make exceptions for parents who hit their children?

2. Is it gross and disturbing to you that the GA Gov and legislature allow a 40 year old to have sex with a 16 year old?
(My guess is that you were against sex with a 13 year old).

 

[IamStryker]

The age of consent in the majority of Red States and at the Federal level is 16. I am not saying that I agree with this, but your argument (and your personal attack on me) are based on a false premise.

So, since you were initially "disturbed" about children consenting to surgery, are you now extremely distraught to learn that children are consenting to sex?

In Texas, for instance, the age of consent is 16. Are you disturbed that Governor Abbot and the republican Legislature allow this?

14 and 15 year olds are consenting to life changing drugs and surgeries (double masectomy). Do you have no issue with that?

This is only part of the problem as well. The other issue is allowing small children 5 years old to consent to socially transitioning which sets them on the path to the drugs/surgeries. Do you see the problem with that?

 

[UFCUCF]

Have you visited the DeTrans page in Reddit?

It's story after story of young people who were talked into and even cohersed into transitioning at a young age and fucking themselves up. Now they're dealing with the ramifications and forever life changing decisions they made in their teens.

What's your fucking issue with Teachers and Schools advocating for young kids transitioning. It's fucking sick. And now it looks like there's huge money incentives as well.

Stop fucking with kids who have no real idea what they want.

Go lord, you're a fucking sicko if you think this shit ok. Please explain why you support this.

No. I am not familiar with that forum.

 

[cincymma79]

The age of consent in the majority of Red States and at the Federal level is 16. I am not saying that I agree with this, but your argument (and your personal attack on me) are based on a false premise.

So, since you were initially "disturbed" about children consenting to surgery, are you now extremely distraught to learn that children are consenting to sex?

In Texas, for instance, the age of consent is 16. Are you disturbed that Governor Abbot and the republican Legislature allow this?

That’s the same for most of Europe too. False equivalence.

 

[Renard]

If you work for a university, you are paid a salary. These doctors working in academic teaching hospitals make less than doctors in private practice. Doesn’t make sense.


Sounds like lots of misinformation. Plastic surgeons have always been at the top of the salary surveys. Incredibly difficult specialty to get into, very long training. They make bank doing whatever procedures they choose to do.

Lol @ unironically using the word misinformation. There are no medical boards that specifically certify surgeons for gender-related surgeries. No board examinations, no fellowship or apprenticeship guidelines from WPATH. The people doing the surgeries are a mix of urologists, gynecologists and micro-surgeons, and with vastly different experience levels - sometimes no experience at all. It's up to the individual hospital or medical center to decide which person is allowed to perform these surgeries, leading to vastly different outcomes and often gross incompetence. There's no such thing as a "gender surgeon", of course you won't see them on a salary listing Jesus Christ.

I find it interesting that you claim to be a physician yet whenever any medical topic shows up you're utterly unable to make any substantive argument at all that would make the reader think they're dealing with someone who knows anything about anything, or has any degree of intelligence. All you do when this topic shows up is hysterically go around calling people stupid like a cheap troll.

 

[Lubaolong]

Lol @ unironically using the word misinformation. There are no medical boards that specifically certify surgeons for gender-related surgeries. No board examinations, no fellowship or apprenticeship guidelines from WPATH. The people doing the surgeries are a mix of urologists, gynecologists and micro-surgeons, and with vastly different experience levels - sometimes no experience at all. It's up to the individual hospital or medical center to decide which person is allowed to perform these surgeries, leading to vastly different outcomes and often gross incompetence. There's no such thing as a "gender surgeon", of course you won't see them on a salary listing Jesus Christ.

I find it interesting that you claim to be a physician yet whenever any medical topic shows up you're utterly unable to make any substantive argument at all that would make the reader think they're dealing with someone who knows anything about anything, or has any degree of intelligence. All you do when this topic shows up is hysterically go around calling people stupid like a cheap troll.

There are in fact gender affirming fellowships. Look it up, chump.

Specific fellowship training is not required because it didn’t exist until maybe 6-7 years ago.

Most gender affirming surgeries now involve a plastic surgeon. Training is at minimum 6-8 years post medical school, depending if you enter directly or through general surgery. You can look up the requirements and stats. It’s definitely objectively harder to become a plastic surgeon than neurosurgeon, and plastic surgeons usually sit at the top of the pay charts.

There are other specialties involved in multidisciplinary teams at hospitals that do these surgeries. I would guess it would be common to see obgyn and urologists involved in hysterectomies and orchiectomies. Some are also trained in pelvic reconstruction surgery (another fellowship). And I’m sure they could also pursue training in the gender affirming fellowships. There will be more and more of these training programs in the coming years.