Top 10 Heavyweights ever

[MartinGibson86]

Frank Mir and AA both ahead of DC and Francis???


Snap out of it guys...you're embarrasing yourselves

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Ngannou beat both of them by KO and is the champion and never can crushed since he entered the UFC. Ngannou has also defended the belt and beat much better well rounded fighters to become HW champion than Arlovski ever did.

Ngannou beat Arlovski by KO when he was on a 3 fight losing skid and at the very end of his time as a relevant fighter. It is not the same as beating 2008 Arlovski or even 2014 Arlovski.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Ngannou beat both of them by KO and is the champion and never can crushed since he entered the UFC. Ngannou has also defended the belt and beat much better well rounded fighters to become HW champion than Arlovski ever did.

You're right he just beat up super old dinosaurs

 

[Brazilian007]

Ngannou beat Arlovski by KO when he was on a 3 fight losing skid and at the very end of his time as a relevant fighter. It is not the same as beating 2008 Arlovski or even 2014 Arlovski.

It is still an excuse. You are making an excuse you cant do this with every fighter

You're right he just beat up super old dinosaurs

This is an excuse a cope though

 

[MartinGibson86]

DC is fantastic but he didn’t spend enough time in heavyweight for me to put him in heavyweight top 10.

He's in my all time top 10 tho.

Francis isn't there yet lol. Arlovski has had a legendary career, had two title defenses, (interim and undisputed) and has the most ufc heavyweight wins.

I fail to see what Ngannou has accomplished over Arlovski and Reem.

He won the belt from timmy and defended against eilers and buentello


Jesus christ


Blaydes 2x, Stipe, Reem, AA, Gane, JDS, and Rozi is already a WAY better resume.


Every fighter i just listed beats timmy, eilers, and buentelli with ease

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

He won the belt from timmy and defended against eilers and buentelli


Jesus christ


Blaydes 2x, Stipe, Reem, AA, Gane, JDS, and Rozi is already a WAY better resume.

AA and JDS were shadows of their former selves. AA especially. He was on a 3 fight losing streak and he had no business being in that cage with Ngannou at that point in his career.

I'm supposed to act like beating that version of Arlovski means anything? It doesn't.

The person with the last meaningful win against Arlovski was Barnett, because he actually managed to submit Arlovski, which had never been done before.

Ngannou might as well have been fighting a high school cheerleader when he fought Arlovski. It wasn’t a good win at all.

JDS hasn't won a fight since Ngannou, that win hasn't aged well at all. Overeem was still competitive when Ngannou clocked him at least, so I'd say that's a decent win.

Rozi sucks.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

He won the belt from timmy and defended against eilers and buentello


Jesus christ


Blaydes 2x, Stipe, Reem, AA, Gane, JDS, and Rozi is already a WAY better resume.


Every fighter i just listed beats timmy, eilers, and buentelli with ease

Wait you think Rozi beats Sylvia? Lol.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

It is still an excuse. You are making an excuse you cant do this with every fighter


This is an excuse a cope though

It's not an excuse lol. Beating a washed up 2017 Arlovski is not nearly impressive as Beating him circa 2006.

If Ngannou knocked our Fedor now, would that mean the same as knocking him out in 2006? Hell no, and you know it.

 

[Brazilian007]

He won the belt from timmy and defended against eilers and buentello


Jesus christ


Blaydes 2x, Stipe, Reem, AA, Gane, JDS, and Rozi is already a WAY better resume.


Every fighter i just listed beats timmy, eilers, and buentelli with ease

People have the nerve to bash Derrick Lewis and Big Foot yeah Bunetello is a can by all means and Eilers is a LHW who weighed 230lbs to 235lbs which is a large LHW but he didnt cut weight so yeah a HW but not a true HW. Also chubby yet people bash Lewis and Tai for being fat/chubby

 

[Brazilian007]

It's not an excuse lol. Beating a washed up 2017 Arlovski is not nearly impressive as Beating him circa 2006.

If Ngannou knocked our Fedor now, would that mean the same as knocking him out in 2006? Hell no, and you know it.

It is an excuse you are ignoring reality and saying the win does not matter

Prime Fedor would struggle with Prime Ngannou that fight is 50/50 in my opinion. Ngannou is damn near impossible to takedown now and is lethal standing

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

It is an excuse you are ignoring reality and saying the win does not matter

Prime Fedor would struggle with Prime Ngannou that fight is 50/50 in my opinion. Ngannou is damn near impossible to takedown now and is lethal standing

The win doesn't matter. At all.

A fight between Ngannou and Prime Fedor would likely be pretty close, but that doesn't mean anything. He doesn't get credit for hypothetical matchups that can and never will happen.

It's not Ngannou's fault that the division is much weaker than it used to be, but it's true.

 

[Brazilian007]

The win doesn't matter. At all.

A fight between Ngannou and Prime Fedor would likely be pretty close, but that doesn't mean anything. He doesn't get credit for hypothetical matchups that can and never will happen.

It's not Ngannou's fault that the division is much weaker than it used to be, but it's true.

This level of cope is hillarious man

Nostalgia is a big drug I see

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

He won the belt from timmy and defended against eilers and buentello


Jesus christ


Blaydes 2x, Stipe, Reem, AA, Gane, JDS, and Rozi is already a WAY better resume.


Every fighter i just listed beats timmy, eilers, and buentelli with ease

You're also acting like those are Arlovskis only wins.

Arlovski's best wins are

Sylvia
Werdum
Rothwell
Nelson
Bigfoot
Browne
Mir
Schaub
Struve

And besides resume alone, Arlovski's longevity is also a factor. He has the most wins in UFC heavyweight history and may very well end up with most ufc wins of all time. He was able to maintain success and relevancy much longer than Ngannou has, at least so far.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

This level of cope is hillarious man

Nostalgia is a big drug I see

I have no nostalgia I came into the sport Like 4 years ago try again.

 

[MartinGibson86]

People have the nerve to bash Derrick Lewis and Big Foot yeah Bunetello is a can by all means and Eilers is a LHW who weighed 230lbs to 235lbs which is a large LHW but he didnt cut weight so yeah a HW but not a true HW. Also chubby yet people bash Lewis and Tai for being fat/chubby

We all know Sylvia had the physique of a God.


Smooth footwork too



This place...lmao

 

[Exarch01]

How can Nog be above JDS?

JDS beat

Cain who beat Nog by KO
Werdum who beat Cain and who beat Nog
Lewis
Hunt
Mir who beat Nog 2x
Carwin
Nelson who beat Nog by KO
Gonzaga
Yvel
Struve who KO Nog
Stipe
Ivanov
Tai

Nog beat lets see

Couture a small HW and career LHW who weighed 225lbs
Cro Cop solid win
Scuhab well yeah
Kharitnonov solid win
Hendo a MW/LHW
Horn a LHW
Coleman who is 1 like the back then Brock Lesnar
Semmy Schilt 1 dimesional but a HW kickboxing goat
Tim Sylvia solid win
Josh Barnett solid win
Herring big guy and well yeah but Lewis would beat him and Lewis or Tai is a better win than Herring

Sorry but JDS list looks better


JDS beat yes an older Cro Cop but beat better strikers than Nog ever did.

Werdum first loss to Overeem wasent even that bad it was an ugly fight but he didnt get damaged. He actually landed on Overeem a lot.

JDS is a solid choice. The more I think about it, the more it looks like as long as you keep Fedor as #1 you can make solid arguments for like 10 different guys to fill out the rest in most any order you want.

 

[MartinGibson86]

You're also acting like those are Arlovskis only wins.

Arlovski's best wins are

Sylvia
Werdum
Rothwell
Nelson
Bigfoot
Browne
Mir
Schaub
Struve

And besides resume alone, Arlovski's longevity is also a factor. He has the most wins in UFC heavyweight history and may very well end up with most ufc wins of all time. He was able to maintain success and relevancy much longer than Ngannou has, at least so far.

"Besides resume, Arlovski's longevity is also a factor"



LMAO....no, its all about the resume. AA handin around and collecting gift SDs against prelim'ers does nothing to enhance his resume.

You listed ONE elite fighter and he lost several times among those names.

 

[Adebisi]

Ngannou may not have the overall resume, but I don’t see how you can leave him out of a top 10. Even if you value longevity/resume more, you can’t just ignore a fighter’s peak success and ability. The method in which he beats people at the highest level has rarely been seen in the UFC.

Obviously you can’t put him ahead of Fedor/Stipe/Werdum and 2-3 others, but the fighters at the latter parts of these lists absolutely wouldn’t beat him at his peak(they probably get destroyed, too).

 

[SalvadorAllende]

10. Bob Sapp
9. Rolles Gracie
8. Kimbo Slice
7. Roque Martinez
6. Sean McCorckle
5. Late UFC pregnant Gian Villante
4. Harold Howard
3. Wes Sims
2. Paul Buentello
1. The Consequences

Current BigFoot Silva has to be up there.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

"Besides resume, Arlovski's longevity is also a factor"



LMAO....no, its all about the resume. AA handin around and collecting gift SDs against prelim'ers does nothing to enhance his resume.

You listed ONE elite fighter and he lost several times among those names.

No, it's not all about resume. Longevity is a factor, and if it's all about resume, then Ngannous is pretty weak.