Movies Tom Berenger as Sgt. Barnes (Platoon) or Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday (Tombstone) - Which is the better acting performance?

[Takes Two To Tango]

This poll was requested by @volodya

 

[volodya]

Thanks bro! I think the reason I requested it is I honestly can't vote. It'll be fun to see how this all goes down...now where is my popcorn?

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Thanks bro! I think the reason I requested it is I honestly can't vote. It'll be fun to see how this all goes down...now where is my popcorn?

No problemo my friend. : - )

 

[volodya]

I reckon da DOC would get the draw on him, but Barnes been done shot seven times and he still ain't dead

 

[Tone C]

The lunger.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

 

[Streeter]

Holiday by a distance of all outside. That was one of greatest roles in Westerns history

 

[KnightTemplar]

Holiday by a distance of all outside. That was one of greatest roles in Westerns history

My personal Holy Trinity of Westerns is, in no particular order,

The Searchers

Unforgiven

Tombstone.

YMMV

 

[stalehotdog]

Oh this is a good one. Tom played such a great villain. One of my all time favorite performances is Val’s doc holiday. But taking into account how different Tom is from Sgt. Barnes is in real life I give it to Tom.

 

[Elvis.]

 

[Gene Tunney]

Not certain this is a fair comparison, as Doc Holiday is a good guy, while Sgt. Barnes is a bad guy. Make no mistake, Berenger was great.

 

[Thrawn33]

Not certain this is a fair comparison, as Doc Holiday is a good guy, while Sgt. Barnes is a bad guy. Make no mistake, Berenger was great.

Yeah but there are better and more iconic villian portrayals than Sgt Barnes, who would be lucky to be in a best best acted villian top 10, or even 20.

Shit, put Ledgers Joker vs Doc for a good poll.

@Takes Two To Tango : iconic villian vs iconic hero tournament (or best acted, either or), one side of the bracket is heroes, other side villians.... take the top 4 (or more whatever) of each side and make the ultimate showdown in the finals.

 

[Sobek]

Barnes. One of my all time favourites.

Berenger's performance also inspired Tom Hardy in The Revenant.

As for Kilmer, yeah I still forget I'm watching Kilmer as Holliday he was that good, but I think the Barnes role was way better, required more, has more powerful scenes etc.

Aaaaaaand Berenger doesn't win an oscar or anything lol. Pathetic.

 

[Brom Bones]

Kilmer was more memorable with the catchphrases, badassery and such. But Berenger was easily the better performance. I still use this quote every now and again.

 

[volodya]

Kilmer was more memorable with the catchphrases, badassery and such. But Berenger was easily the better performance. I still use this quote every now and again.

You bring up a good point about the catchphrases. IMO "I AM reality" is one if the goats and "not me, I'm in my prime" is as well.

For me, I think, Val's doc Holliday, while being a bad mofo, was also a troll.

Barnes wasn't trolling at all, not even a little bit

 

[ChickenBrother]

Barnes role was way better, required more, has more powerful scenes etc.

Berenger was easily the better performance.

This.

The only thing than can kill Barnes, is Barnes.

 

[volodya]

The lunger.

Is that how it's spelled? I never looked it up but I've always wondered.

Also, the first chopin nocturne I learned is the one that doc played. I question how he found the sheet music for that, but hey, Hollywood magic is a term for a reason.

 

[volodya]

Yeah but there are better and more iconic villian portrayals than Sgt Barnes, who would be lucky to be in a best best acted villian top 10, or even 20.

Shit, put Ledgers Joker vs Doc for a good poll.

@Takes Two To Tango : iconic villian vs iconic hero tournament (or best acted, either or), one side of the bracket is heroes, other side villians.... take the top 4 (or more whatever) of each side and make the ultimate showdown in the finals.

Do you really think Ledger had a better performance there? You are kidding, right?

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Yeah but there are better and more iconic villian portrayals than Sgt Barnes, who would be lucky to be in a best best acted villian top 10, or even 20.

Shit, put Ledgers Joker vs Doc for a good poll.

@Takes Two To Tango : iconic villian vs iconic hero tournament (or best acted, either or), one side of the bracket is heroes, other side villians.... take the top 4 (or more whatever) of each side and make the ultimate showdown in the finals.

I did the Ledger vs. Kilmer one already. And thanks for the suggestion, I'll keep that in mind. : - )

Movies - Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday or Heath Ledger as The Joker - Which is the better performance?

Two of the greatest acting performances of all-time imo. I have to give it to Heath Ledger as The Joker and it's very close. Both performances are masterclass elite. One for the ages.

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[volodya]

Also, this good guy/bad guy trope...let's not forget that doc holiday knifed a guy over cards in the first scene...and Barnes, while a prick seemed to be super hyped into the "machine" himself and his fellow soldiers