Media Tom Aspinall says he was watching cro cop and implies his level of skill and that time period doesn't compare to modern mma, timestamp is 17:59

[markg171]

But it's not "literally everything". It's one aspect. An important one sure, but the eye test matters too. If you can't look at Apinall and see his skill and athletic attributes are much different than Carwin's, that's on you.

Out of curiosity, did Carwin KO 5 consecutive top 10 ranked guys to get the interim title? From what I see, he literally only had 2 UFC fights TOTAL before he beat Mir for the interim belt. So yes, knocking out cab drivers is different than beating highly ranked UFC guys. That I'd need to point out the difference between "he's beating all the top guys but the division seems historically weak" and "he KO'd a bunch of random regional bums then a couple UFC guys" is pretty ridiculous.

Mike Tyson was knocking out legit HW top ranked fighters. The division was weak at the time, but he was beating the top guys available to him. Bringing Carwin into the discussion is moronic.

And again, literally the last 5 guys Aspinall has faced are ALL top 10. All of them. Exactly how stupid do you have to be to think he's not fighting the best available competition. Gane ducked him twice and now Jones seems to be. Who the fuck do you want the guy to fight, dum dum?

My favourite is when Tom fans retroactively re-rank dudes to make his career better but never do this to any other fighter.

 

[markg171]

Dude, you've already established you're an absolute moron with this take numerous times. Is it your mission that EVERYONE see how dumb you are? Why?

You chose literally the most retarded hill to die on, and then reanimated yourself over and over to keep getting mauled on the same hill. It's like you take some bizarre enjoyment out of looking stupid.

You're literally comparing this to Gonzaga head kicking Cro Cop flush and knocking him out cold to where his leg buckles underneath him. In your own gif (that shows only the one angle of course) the punch barely lands and he's just replanting his leg when it buckles.

Have you ever wondered why you're the ONLY one beating this drum despite their being plenty of skeptics and or outright haters of Tom on this forum? Nah, of course you haven't.

Edit: Holy shit you've added that you think Tom was "temporarily out"??? I can't stop laughing, there's no way you're that stupid so obviously you think just telling a lie over and over will have people accept it. He's grabbing at his knee the instant his foot replants. Before he even falls back to the mat.

This is the absolute emporer of stupid takes dude. Like...beyond just dumb. It's next level moronic.

I'm so sorry you're too slow to see that Tom very clearly gets punched in the face and goes down before his knee ever gets injured.

AKA getting dropped.

That must be tough living like this.

 

[mkess101]

My favourite is when Tom fans retroactively re-rank dudes to make his streak better.

That idiot is comparing him to Shane Carwin who had two TOTAL fights in the UFC prior to winning the interim belt. Aspinall KO'd 4 consecutive top 10 guys (and his last 5 are CURRENTLY in the top 10).

My favorite is when you repeatedly seem to go out of your way to make sure as much of the forum knows you're an idiot as is possible.

 

[Juzie]

CroCop from 15 years ago was completely washed. He wasn't even top 15 at the time.

With a few exceptions, the HW division from 15 years ago was better and deeper than the current HW division. Matching up sherdog's March 2010 HW rankings vs their current rankings, I'd favor 2010 to win 9 or 10 of them.

1. Fedor (Aspinall)
2. Brock (Jones)
3. Mir (Francis)
4. Cain (Gane)
5. Big Nog (Volkov)
6. Brett Rogers (Pavlovich)
7. JDS (Blaydes)
8. Arlovski (Almeida)
9. Carwin (Spivac)
10. Werdum (Tybura)
11. Aleks (De Fries)
12. Gonzaga (Ferreira)
13. Overeem (Jairzinho)
14. Rothwell (Lewis)
15. Big Foot (Gotsov)

The current fighters win most of those...2010 Fedor got demolished by Bigfoot. Brock and Mir lose to anyone their size. 2010 Big Nog had no chin whatsoever (KOd by fucking MIR and "pillowfist" Cain) Brett Rogers was a complete bum. Arlo no chin in 2010 either.... Carwin could only fight for 1 round.

10-15 looks a little better for the 2010 line up. Id still say Overeem has a solid chance of blowing it against Rozenstruik as he is famous for and Lewis knocks Big Ben out.

 

[mkess101]

I'm so sorry you're too slow to see that Tom very clearly gets punched in the face and goes down before his knee ever gets injured.

AKA getting dropped.

That must be tough living like this.

Again, it's bizarre that you so desperately want everyone to know how dumb you are. Like, you're a moron. Okay. That's unfortunate for you, but it's not a crime. But why would you be so adamant about making sure everyone sees how dumb you are? There are plenty of idiots like you out there that are able to fly beneath the radar and mostly hide their stupidity. You can't seem to do that. I guess maybe that makes even them smarter than you. Yikes.

 

[markg171]

That idiot is comparing him to Shane Carwin who had two TOTAL fights in the UFC prior to winning the interim belt. Aspinall KO'd 4 consecutive top 10 guys (and his last 5 are CURRENTLY in the top 10).

My favorite is when you repeatedly seem to go out of your way to make sure as much of the forum knows you're an idiot as is possible.

Tom was on a 1 fight when streak over Tybura when the UFC decided to randomly slot him in against Pav instead of making Stipe/Pav like had already been agreed upon.

Dying on this hill is retarded.

 

[Juzie]

That idiot is comparing him to Shane Carwin who had two TOTAL fights in the UFC prior to winning the interim belt. Aspinall KO'd 4 consecutive top 10 guys (and his last 5 are CURRENTLY in the top 10).

My favorite is when you repeatedly seem to go out of your way to make sure as much of the forum knows you're an idiot as is possible.

Well Shane Carwin was 2-0 and beat a ranked fighter at least.

Brock, the champion at the time was 1-1 against unranked fighters when he got his title shot.

But no no the guy who cleared out the whole fucking division already and holds the interim belt isn't worthy of the title shot!

 

[mkess101]

Tom was on a 1 fight when streak over Tybura when the UFC decided to randomly slot him in against Pav instead of making Stipe/Pav like had already been agreed upon.

Dying on this hill is retarded.

Because you cling to that "loss" to Blaydes as though the UFC doesn't understand what it actually was. Thankfully, they don't let window lickers like you make the decisions.

 

[markg171]

Again, it's bizarre that you so desperately want everyone to know how dumb you are. Like, you're a moron. Okay. That's unfortunate for you, but it's not a crime. But why would you be so adamant about making sure everyone sees how dumb you are? There are plenty of idiots like you out there that are able to fly beneath the radar and mostly hide their stupidity. You can't seem to do that. I guess maybe that makes even them smarter than you. Yikes.

Buddy it's literally a slowed down gif very, very, very clearly showing Blaydes punches Tom TWICE and he starts to fall back before his knee's ever injured. Like the punches literally land, Tom falls back, all before Tom's leg is down and he then reaches for his now injured knee.

It's clear as day but you guys will never admit it because that requires admitting that Tom is a defensive nightmare and got caught standing by Blaydes of all people instead of "randomly" missteping.

 

[markg171]

Well Shane Carwin was 2-0 and beat a ranked fighter at least.

Brock, the champion at the time was 1-1 against unranked fighters when he got his title shot.

But no no the guy who cleared out the whole fucking division already and holds the interim belt isn't worthy of the title shot!

Literally nobody is saying Tom isn't the #1 contender but thanks for the strawman

 

[mkess101]

Buddy it's literally a slowed down gif very, very, very clearly showing Blaydes punches Tom TWICE and he starts to fall back before his knee's ever injured. Like the punches literally land, Tom falls back, all before Tom's leg is down and he then reaches for his now injured knee.

It's clear as day but you guys will never admit it because that requires admitting that Tom is a defensive nightmare and got caught standing by Blaydes of all people instead of "randomly" missteping.

You post a gif, then try to describe things that aren't happening LMFAO! The first punch is a glancing blow, the second barely even touches him. Tom leans back and when he plants his leg it buckles and he's grabbing it WAY BEFORE HE EVEN GOES DOWN.

You repeating the same moronic drivel time after time isn't gonna magically make it something it isn't. You've been mocked about this numerous times...nobody ever comes to your defense, and yet your brain says "I should really post this again, I miss being made fun of."

Absolutely amazing.

 

[markg171]

Well Shane Carwin was 2-0 and beat a ranked fighter at least.

Brock, the champion at the time was 1-1 against unranked fighters when he got his title shot.

But no no the guy who cleared out the whole fucking division already and holds the interim belt isn't worthy of the title shot!

There isn't a single other fighter on the roster where we pretend fights from 3+ years ago count as today's wins besides Tom.

I'd say it's bizarre but we all know what your angles are.

 

[Juzie]

There isn't a single other fighter on the roster where we pretend fights from 3+ years ago count as today's wins besides Tom.

I'd say it's bizarre but we all know what your angles are.

If that's the case then how the fuck did Jon get his free title shot?

 

[markg171]

You post a gif, then try to describe things that aren't happening LMFAO! The first punch is a glancing blow, the second barely even touches him. Tom leans back and when he plants his leg it buckles and he's grabbing it WAY BEFORE HE EVEN GOES DOWN.

You repeating the same moronic drivel time after time isn't gonna magically make it something it isn't. You've been mocked about this numerous times...nobody ever comes to your defense, and yet your brain says "I should really post this again, I miss being made fun of."

Absolutely amazing.

I don't know why Tom fans pretend we haven't seen shit like Barboza being dropped by a jab or Nick KOing Lawler or countless other random hurtings from blows that shouldn't seem damaging but suddenly can't comprehend Tom getting dropped from being countered twice on 1 leg by a HW.

I mean I know why they do it, but you all act like HWs suddenly can't possibly ever get hurt while being countered when it comes to Tom being countered and punched in the face 2x on 1 leg, a perfect opportunity to get hurt.

STRANGE.

I mean if nothing else it's a pretty basic logic test of asking why Tom was even going backwards in the first place, after being countered 2x, when you guys seem to think he "randomly" hurt himself. I dunno maybe you think he just decided to walk backwards or something.

 

[mkess101]

@markg171

Okay moron, here's an ACTUAL breakdown of the injury that shows the entire sequence broken down in separate frames from the correct angle. With a doctor explaining the injury as it happens. Unreal that this would even need to be shown but I guess that's where we are with you.

 

[markg171]

If that's the case then how the fuck did Jon get his free title shot?

From having more title wins than Tom has wins period?

Christ you guys are dumb.

 

[markg171]

@markg171

Okay moron, here's an ACTUAL breakdown of the injury that shows the entire sequence broken down in separate frames from the correct angle. With a doctor explaining the injury as it happens. Unreal that this would even need to be shown but I guess that's where we are with you.

I don't need a Youtube video because I'm not the one pretending Tom didn't get punched in the face 2x first and didn't just "randomly" misstep.

Maybe that's your problem doe.

 

[mkess101]

I don't need a Youtube video because I'm not the one pretending Tom didn't get punched in the face 2x first and didn't just "randomly" misstep.

Maybe that's your problem doe.

You don't want to watch the video that shows the punches not landing and Aspinall clearly grabbing his knee as soon as he replants his foot showing he was never hurt AT ALL outside his knee giving out. Nah, you'd rather show edited gifs from bad angles so you can pretend something happened that didn't.

Wonder why LMAO?

 

[markg171]

You don't want to watch the video that shows the punches not landing and Aspinall clearly grabbing his knee as soon as he replants his foot showing he was never hurt AT ALL outside his knee giving out. Nah, you'd rather show edited gifs from bad angles so you can pretend something happened that didn't.

Wonder why LMAO?

It's a pretty simple question of asking why Tom needed to suddenly re-plant his knee.

Maybe that's your problem doe.

 

[Juzie]

From having more title wins than Tom has wins period?

Christ you guys are dumb.

"There isn't a single other fighter on the roster where we pretend fights from 3+ years ago count as today's wins"

Your own words mate... Jon hadn't fought anybody in 3 years so why did he get a free title shot if those old wins don't count?