TN state senator compares obamacare to holocaust

[rindan***]

Yeah I was having a light hearted satirical laugh at your arguments expense.

Is it news worthy of the War Room? Sure!

Is it interesting? I suppose!

Is it a big deal? No!

Are there posters here who are hypocrites on the right? Yes!

Was a Democratic State Senator and Gun Control advocate trying to sell illegal arms to a Chinese gangster a bigger and more interesting story? Yes!

Was the media all over it? No, lol come on he is a Democratic and his hypocrisy is regrettable, but the cause is something we believe in, the P-r-o-g-r-e-s-s-i-v-e way of the future... so sssssh, let's play the media game and talk up the hyperbolic rhetoric of Rep from a less important Southern State because he has "R" next to his name, and downplay the "D" Senator trying to sell automatic weapons to a Chinese Gangster... bad for the narrative, and we do love the narrative.

false equivalence with paranoid bias devoid of reality

what a disaster of a post

 

[InternetHero]

false equivalence with paranoid bias devoid of reality

what a disaster of a post

Ok, explain my false equivalence.

Why is a State Senator from a more populous State trying to sell illegal weapons to a gangster less of a story than a State Senator from a less populous State comparing an unpopular law to the holocaust?

 

[7437]

Why? Cause of a meme?

because it is always a vast exaggeration.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

You say you agree with me, but you pretty clearly were not able to understand what I said. Let me try again: There are posters--yourself included--who are implying that there is something wrong with talking about something bad a state senator said unless you also talk about everything bad every other state senator has said. Those people cannot be consistent in applying that rule (it's simply not possible). That means they are being disingenuous. Not a surprise, I trust, but worth noting, IMO. Let's try to do a better job, people.

I hope you haven't confused me with these others. My position is simply that when actual law-breaking (allegedly) gets ignored in favor of juicy gossip that's a poor reflection on the people and the "news media". Any connection between media bias and party affiliations is beyond what I've said.

Let's call each story a "priority". You believe in this case that the priorities are straight? It's not like anyone knows who this guy is or that TN is a high profile state. If a bunch of country artists noticed and took offense then I'd understand it. :icon_chee

 

[Jack V Savage]

I hope you haven't confused me with these others. My position is simply that when actual law-breaking (allegedly) gets ignored in favor of juicy gossip that's a poor reflection on the people and the "news media". Any connection between media bias and party affiliations is beyond what I've said.

Let's call each story a "priority". You believe in this case that the priorities are straight? It's not like anyone knows who this guy is or that TN is a high profile state. If a bunch of country artists noticed and took offense then I'd understand it. :icon_chee

Is there any sense at all in which these stories are competing? They didn't happen at the same time. There's no shortage of space on the internet. How is it anything more than a distraction attempt by hypocritical hacks? I mean, shit, we're talking about it so it's worked, but is that really what we want. Like I said, these discussions don't have to suck so hard. I should probably have just ignored it, and I will going forward.

 

[James Keith]

You say you agree with me, but you pretty clearly were not able to understand what I said. Let me try again: There are posters--yourself included--who are implying that there is something wrong with talking about something bad a state senator said unless you also talk about everything bad every other state senator has said. Those people cannot be consistent in applying that rule (it's simply not possible). That means they are being disingenuous. Not a surprise, I trust, but worth noting, IMO. Let's try to do a better job, people.

Let me try wording your little analysis there in a way that isn't so stupid: some posters feel it's just more interesting to talk about the contrast between the media's reaction to a minor hyperbole one dude typed one day versus the media's minimal coverage of an ongoing saga of international terrorism another dude was involved in, rather than discuss the mundane hyperbole itself.

Now let's analyze some other posters here: references to Yee appear to inspire strong emotions from lefties, causing them to lash out at anyone they feel has caused them to suffer unnecessarily, and to argue for pages and from every angle imaginable that he must remain unnamed unless absolutely necessary and directly pertinent to the discussion as framed by themselves.

 

[in the]

When will Murkans stop electing nutjobs into their government?

From my own state, nonetheless. Though I don't claim him and would never vote for his ilk.

I love my state but in most areas, you have to "out right" the right to get elected. People living in fear that their guns are going to be taken away.

I long for the day when social conservatives realize they are nothing more than numbers to those who control the strings in their own party - the "fiscal conservatives."

 

[in the]

Ok, explain my false equivalence.

Why is a State Senator from a more populous State trying to sell illegal weapons to a gangster less of a story than a State Senator from a less populous State comparing an unpopular law to the holocaust?

Could you imagine the outrage if the Tennessee rep was selling guns to organized crime compared to, say, a leftist Californian Senator comparing anti-abortion/pro-life laws to the Holocaust?

 

[OldGoat]

because it is always a vast exaggeration.

That's not true. And you know it. People just don't like being rightfully compared to lunatic statists and thus try to ridicule the notion.

 

[Bukowski82]

That moment when you realize... You're smarter than a United States Senator.

 

[drowningidiot]

Now let's analyze some other posters here: references to Yee appear to inspire strong emotions from lefties, causing them to lash out at anyone they feel has caused them to suffer unnecessarily, and to argue for pages and from every angle imaginable that he must remain unnamed unless absolutely necessary and directly pertinent to the discussion as framed by themselves.

I can't speak for all the lefties but I think he's pretty awesome. Anti-gun crusader is the perfect cover for an arms smuggler. This is the kind of resourcefulness and creativity that I look for in an elected official.

 

[OldGoat]

What's really sad is a conversation in private has had more impact on society and in the chatter-sphere and media then a democrat selling guns to a criminal cartel.

 

[OldGoat]

I can't speak for all the lefties but I think he's pretty awesome. Anti-gun crusader is the perfect cover for an arms smuggler. This is the kind of resourcefulness and creativity that I look for in an elected official.

Lol

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Is there any sense at all in which these stories are competing? They didn't happen at the same time.

It's competition in the sense they are both news stories involving state politicians competing for coverage, specifically by mainstream press in this discussion. The gunrunning Cali guy is an ongoing story and if this is current then some of the happening would overlap. I'm curious which you consider more scandalous since you sidestepped answering my very direct question about priorities.

I'm not sure it's a fact that one has gotten more play. I know that when I checked the major news sites (three different times) to see if there was Yee coverage there wasn't. Not a story on the front page and nothing when I searched. I don't need to compare that to anything to find it curious. I wonder what's wrong with the press and what's wrong with the public. There's certainly space for updates that there's nothing to update when it comes to this missing plane.

 

[7437]

That's not true. And you know it. People just don't like being rightfully compared to lunatic statists and thus try to ridicule the notion.

calling someone a lunatic statist is not the same thing. until democrats exterminate a race, it is a stupid comparison

 

[UpaLoompa]

It's competition in the sense they are both news stories involving state politicians competing for coverage, specifically by mainstream press in this discussion. The gunrunning Cali guy is an ongoing story and if this is current then some of the happening would overlap. I'm curious which you consider more scandalous since you sidestepped answering my very direct question about priorities.

I'm not sure it's a fact that one has gotten more play. I know that when I checked the major news sites (three different times) to see if there was Yee coverage there wasn't. Not a story on the front page and nothing when I searched. I don't need to compare that to anything to find it curious. I wonder what's wrong with the press and what's wrong with the public. There's certainly space for updates that there's nothing to update when it comes to this missing plane.

Yee was a front page CNN story under US and Politics. Other international stories led on the main splash page. He also had a lead link on Yahoo, which is how my wife knew about it.

 

[InternetHero]

Could you imagine the outrage if the Tennessee rep was selling guns to organized crime compared to, say, a leftist Californian Senator comparing anti-abortion/pro-life laws to the Holocaust?

Ah-ha! Now there is a pretty good point potential, however, Dr. Gosnell went a step further and stabbed some actually born babies with a pair of scissors and was page 6 material... hmm, not very narrative fitting... so how about...

I would imagine the Tennessee rep trying to sell guns if he had an R by his name would get a front page mention on The NY Times and fizzle out in a couple of weeks, Holocaust hyperbole pro-choice Californian might get a couple of blurbs in the Local paper... now, if the rep was a D and from Tennessee and made the comparison to abortion he would get pounded, by the local media and ignored-as-much-as-possible by the national media.

 

[PEB]

A general rule of thumb to be followed by right-wing politicians in this country should be that you should not make comparisons to Nazi Germany, period. Just stay away from it. You inevitably look like a dummy.

Heck I am a democrat but your right there is a shrinking yet still powerful group who continues to buy into the notion that Obamacare "ACA they should call it" is an end to all things!!! Yet these same people see no comparisons to what Putin is doing to the Ukraine to what President Bush did to Iraq don't give me that Saddam was evil talk. There are plenty of evil people around the world but we don't give it the time of day.

It boggles the mind, but do something for the needy and your painted is the second coming of evil yet go invade a country and your mister popularity. Why do you think Obama had his highest poll numbers after Libya? Republicans "IE their political donors love when Military power is used". If Obama announced that the US has bombed Syria Republicans would back off for a few weeks off Benghazi talk. It just boggles the mind the money being spend to destroy Obamacare "ACA" just in one state North Carolina its rumored that over 7 million bucks have been spent on anti ACA ads this year.

EDIT: The billionaires are pouring 10's to 100's of millions of dollars into anti Obamacare ads this election cycle never before such vast sums of money has been used on negative ads devoted to one topic.

 

[Rhood]

I wonder if the next Republican senator will compare obamacare to slavery.

But why stop there?
The next Republican senator after him will compare obamacare to the spanish inquisition.

 

[PEB]

I wonder if the next Republican senator will compare obamacare to slavery.

I believe that they have already done just that in a few speeches. EDIT: I am calling it Jeb Bush will be the 2016 Republican nominee it just boggles the mind how people forget history.