Tim Kennedy can never fight again

[nick1990]

BOOM, motherfucker.

So how stupid do you look hating random groups of people, some of whom are perfectly fucking normal and probably way more polite people with more contributions to a peaceful and loving society than you, when it's a PEOPLE problem and not a RELIGIOUS problem.

'OH WE HATE ISLAM, DOWN WITH ISLAM'... Well, no, dummy. Because a lot, the overwhelming majority or Muslims are good people. And if radical Islam does go away one day, another type of person will start committing similar acts. You, having offered nothing to the first situation, will just start hating them, too without ever realizing you had totally missed the point the first time. You're a simple thinker. It's not black and white.

You are a very very special kind of stupid.

 

[MP44]

Let me start off by saying I'm a big Tim Kennedy fan, and I believe he would have a competitive fight with any of the top 10 fighters in the middleweight division. However, he can never fight under any MMA organization because he's on the ISIS kill list. If Kennedy is on a fight card, ISIS can easily plan any attack on him and Kennedy would be pratically defenseless, especially while walking to the cage or during his fight. Pretty much they'll know where and when he'll be. Taking any fight now would put Kennedy in serious danger. Thoughts?

isis is the JV team, or so I have heard.

 

[suffersystem]

It has everything to do with Islam, actually. Islam is the ideology that provides them with the justification and the guideline for carrying out that 'revenge tour'. Charlie Hebdo wasn't attacked because France has education, poverty, and mental illness problem. They were attacked specifically because they printed material that Islamists thought was blasphemous, which in the Islamic world, is a good enough reason to assassinate someone. This sort of behavior dates back to the life of Muhammad, when he would order his underlings to kill in the name of Islam and silence the blasphemers.

If someone posted a picture of something blasphemous about Jesus, I bet there are dozens of chritians that would kill that person too though. It's not the entire religion to blame, but the crazies

 

[nick1990]

theres a girl that works at the dunkin donuts in my town names "Isis" . every time in in there im tempted to amke a smart ass comment aobut here name, but i dont.

Please do, and report back with what happens.

 

[nick1990]

If someone posted a picture of something blasphemous about Jesus, I bet there are dozens of chritians that would kill that person too though. It's not the entire religion to blame, but the crazies

When was the last time people were shot in the streets for drawing a picture of Jesus?

 

[Coolidge]

BOOM, motherfucker.

Boom? Nothing I said affirms what you said. I never argued that Islam was the sole reason for violence in the world. I said it's irresponsible to ignore and downplay Islam's culpability. I don't ignore other ideologies and deny that they're responsible when their adherents commit heinous crimes. That's your bag with Islam.

So how stupid do you look hating random groups of people, some of whom are perfectly fucking normal and probably way more polite people with more contributions to a peaceful and loving society than you, when it's a PEOPLE problem and not a RELIGIOUS problem.

I haven't 'hated on' any random groups of people, moron. Islam and 'Muslim' are not interchangeable words. If a criticize the tenets of Christianity, that doesn't mean I think ill of all Christians. The only group that I've bashed in their entirety would be Muslim terrorists, and I'd say that's completely fair to do.

'OH WE HATE ISLAM, DOWN WITH ISLAM'... Well, no, dummy. Because a lot, the overwhelming majority or Muslims are good people. And if radical Islam does go away one day, another type of person will start committing similar acts. You, having offered nothing to the first situation, will just start hating them, too without ever realizing you had totally missed the point the first time. You're a simple thinker. It's not black and white.

Dummy, the fact that there are good Muslim people is irrelevant to the question of: is the Islamic text itself good? Does it actually promote good things? You can be a perfectly good person and still subscribe to an inherently bad ideology, which is why I criticize Islam and not 'Muslims'.

 

[suffersystem]

When was the last time people were shot in the streets for drawing a picture of Jesus?

Like this week, or in general?

 

[suffersystem]

I'm no expert on religion and this and that, just my opnion you can't blame an entire religion. Just the radicals. Hell, can you imagine taking the bible at face value. Sheeeeit.....

 

[puppybird]

USA! USA! USA!!!

 

[Coolidge]

If someone posted a picture of something blasphemous about Jesus, I bet there are dozens of chritians that would kill that person too though. It's not the entire religion to blame, but the crazies

You honestly sound a little dense saying that. We have an exhibit here in America with a cross in a jar of urine. There are festivals where women dress up like Jesus while they're menstruating blood. They're not killed for it. Charlie Hebdo ran blasphemous pictures about Jesus. Their offices weren't attacked by Christians.

 

[Final Say]

Every terrorist says they were motivated by Islam.

ISIS itself says that their motivation is Islamic prophecy: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

But you know more about them than they do?

Dude, you're rationalizing bullshit to fit your predetermined narrative. I don't know how much mor obvious it can get. That's cult-like thinking.

Wrong, that's exactly what you're doing. If you haven't noticed, I don't give two fucks about Islam or what people think and believe, you just assumed I have this narrative. I'm totally areligious, I'm atheist, I'm agnostic, I don't fuckin know and I don't fuckin care. I believe religious people are generally lost and blissfully and sometimes willfully ignorant.

You're completely missing the point, which is that these 'terrorists' are completely fucking nuts. The problem is with those people, not with the explanation of their actions. Why are you even listening to the rants of people who are mass murdering men, women and children? It's absolutely silly. If Islam was the problem, then explain the hundreds of millions of ordinary people who are good, hard working and decent AND ALSO MUSLIM.

this discussion is a lost cause. Let it the fuck go

 

[Final Say]

Dummy, the fact that there are good Muslim people is irrelevant to the question of: is the Islamic text itself good? Does it actually promote good things?

SOME OF IT, YES. SOME OF IT, NO. It's painfully similar to Christianity in that sense! There are more references to graphic violence in the bible than the Quran! Look it up, let it go!

 

[Coolidge]

Wrong, that's exactly what you're doing. If you haven't noticed, I don't give two fucks about Islam or what people think and believe, you just assumed I have this narrative. I'm totally areligious, I'm atheist, I'm agnostic, I don't fuckin know and I don't fuckin care. I believe religious people are generally lost and blissfully and sometimes willfully ignorant.

You're completely missing the point, which is that these 'terrorists' are completely fucking nuts. The problem is with those people, not with the explanation of their actions. Why are you even listening to the rants of people who are mass murdering men, women and children? It's absolutely silly. If Islam was the problem, then explain the hundreds of millions of ordinary people who are good, hard working and decent AND ALSO MUSLIM.

this discussion is a lost cause. Let it the fuck go

No, actually, you're a Muslim apologist. Don't smear the atheist community by trying to associate yourself with them. If you have to call yourself an atheist, at least make the distinction that you're a member of 'Atheism Plus', which is an atheist that substitutes critical thinking with social justice.

 

[Final Say]

No, actually, you're a Muslim apologist. Don't smear the atheist community by trying to associate yourself with them. If you have to call yourself an atheist, at least make the distinction that you're a member of 'Atheism Plus', which is atheist that substitutes critical thinking with social justice.

Lmfao, how surprising, you identify yourself with a group of people called atheists. You're intolerant with it as well. You are a 'member' of an atheist community. There's even infighting in these groups? Atheism plus? Lol just sad.

You keep on showing your worth, Coolidge

 

[Final Say]

No, actually, you're a Muslim apologist. Don't smear the atheist community by trying to associate yourself with them. If you have to call yourself an atheist, at least make the distinction that you're a member of 'Atheism Plus', which is an atheist that substitutes critical thinking with social justice.

Hey, Christians have also mass murdered people. There are also good Christians. Jews too! Even nazis! Buddhists!

I must be a Christian apologist! Jewish Apologist! Nazi Apologist! Buddhist apologist!

I lower my value by even lending credence to you're frustratingly stupid, incoherent and aimless postings.

 

[Coolidge]

SOME OF IT, YES. SOME OF IT, NO. It's painfully similar to Christianity in that sense! There are more references to graphic violence in the bible than the Quran! Look it up, let it go!

You're deflecting.

The Bible is rife with violent and bizarre commands. Never said otherwise. My comments are not exclusive to Islam. As I said earlier, the world would be much better off with religion entirely. That said, the majority of the religious terrorists attacks today are perpetrated by Islamists. Christianity, to its credit, has a relatively nicer New Testament and a peacenik hippie for its prophet, not the murderous, philic warmonger in Muhammad. That actually makes a world of difference in terms of how the followers react to the text.

 

[ocfightfan]

No.... But I wonder if those who believe a religion is to blame for that kind of thing also think it's a coincidence that all these violent factions and groups committing terrorist acte come from generally the same general areas of the planet and that the pawns who actually commit the acts have all had similar experiences earlier in life?

The religion itself is a scapegoat. It's a bad excuse. This shit stems from a mixture of politics, education, vengeance and mental health. It appeals to a certain type of person.

People who actually hurt themselves and others in the name of a religion were not normal, educated or of sound minds before they were radicalized.

Every cult and generally extreme 'group' of people has been the same. They're humans being taken advantage of by other humans.

You really need to stop rationalizing.

Economists have found a link between low incomes and property crimes. But in most cases terrorism is less like property crime and more like a violent form of political engagement, the authors suggest. "More educated people from privileged backgrounds are more likely to participate in politics, probably in part because political involvement requires some minimum level of interest, expertise, commitment to issues and effort, all of which are more likely if people are educated and wealthy enough to concern themselves with more than mere economic subsistence," they write. And terrorist organizations may prefer to use highly educated individuals as operatives because they are better suited to carry out acts of international terrorism than are impoverished illiterates since the terrorists must fit into a foreign environment to be successful.

Source

This article reaffirms the view that apart from certain pathological cases, there is no causal connection between an individual’s mental disorder and engagement in terrorist activity. The individual terrorist’s motivations can be explained by other factors, including behavioural psychology. However, there may be a connection between an individual engaging in terrorist activity and developing a mental disorder.

Source

You are also ignoring all the people who were raised in the West and then left to join but don't fit your profile.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...s-15-who-left-united-states-join-isis-n573611

There are many more.

Yes, its true, ideologies don't commit terrorist acts, people do. But some ideologies lend themselves to rationalizing violence against others and some do not.

 

[Coolidge]

Lmfao, how surprising, you identify yourself with a group of people called atheists. You're intolerant with it as well. You are a 'member' of an atheist community. There's even infighting in these groups? Atheism plus? Lol just sad.

You keep on showing your worth, Coolidge

I don't identify with the term 'atheist'. That doesn't quite capture the disdain I have for religion. I prefer the term anti-theist. All I was asking is that you do not smear them with the association. The in-fighting thankfully doesn't involve blowing people up. 'Atheism Plus' is another example of social justice infecting an otherwise positive institution.

 

[ocfightfan]

You really need to stop rationalizing.

Source

Source

You are also ignoring all the people who were raised in the West and then left to join but don't fit your profile.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...s-15-who-left-united-states-join-isis-n573611

There are many more.

Yes, its true, ideologies don't commit terrorist acts, people do. But some ideologies lend themselves to rationalizing violence against others and some do not.

Okay that was weird. I don't know what happend to the last part of my post and I'm too tired to fix it. Oh well, this isn't the war room anyway.

 

[Final Say]

You really need to stop rationalizing.

Source

Source

You are also ignoring all the people who were raised in the West and then left to join but don't fit your profile.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...s-15-who-left-united-states-join-isis-n573611

There are many more.

Yes, its true, ideologies don't commit terrorist acts, people do. But some ideologies lend themselves to rationalizing violence against others and some do not.

Lmao your first source links politics and your second source links behavioral psychology, including a possible sign of impending psychological disorders to people who engage with terrorist associations. That confirms what I said earlier in the thread, so thanks for that.

Your end of the post hits on something I already hit on which you didn't read or didn't comprehend. In either scenario, I'm glad we agree, it's a people problem. Any idea or set of ideas can be manipulated or misconstrued to the point of dire results.

Hating the set of ideas has no effect, offers no solution and completely misses the point when trying to solve the consequences of those results. You need to take a new aim with your brain power and find out and attackthe root of the problem, not a random result.

Mic drop on this topic, motherfuckers