This is how prime Fedor would have armbarred Cormier (PICS)

[BJ@LW&WW]

in the first pics, yes dc's position of his arms can be dangerous. but im more than certain he is aware of this.. there are advantages of leaving your arms there and if say barnett were to open his legs to go for an arm, he would quickly shrink his elbows. also notice the position of dcs elbows vs the position of colemans elbow in your pictures. one is past his opponents arm/shoulder. from there, youre in major danger for the armbar and it is fairly evident that coleman was not prepared for that. dc's elbow positioning leaves him in less danger, and most importantly, hes completely aware of the potential arm bar. sometimes, high level bjj is really having the confidence and ability to ride the lines of what puts you in danger and what lets you be offensive.

overeem vs nelson is no where near in danger for an armbar. its crazy that you think it is...

 

[BrazilianDude]

Wait... Is this fight going to happen?

 

[Jestahr]

Can confirm Fedor armbars DC.

Source: this thread.

 

[Bilal Bones]

You're using MMAth if anything.
According to that:
Cormier>Hendo>Fedor
Cormier>Bigfoot>Fedor
among others.

 

[McgreGOATsLeft]

To be on topic though, Cormier via destruction.
Funny thing is I don't even like Cormier either.

 

[olimpicus]

The Fedor armbar was elite
The Vitor one was pretty damn good but not as explosive and fast, but brilliant armbar anyway

Fedor by TKO/KO anyway

 

[Noraaq]

I agree TS. A lot of UFC HWs are getting way too overhyped lately just because theyre beating the piss outta other old geasers. Fedor dominated in the HW era when everyone was young and hungry.

 

[Guile]

If we could take 2015 Cormier vs 2005 Fedor who would win.... Hmmm.... What a stupid question.

 

[Talon81]

Prime Fedor is still the most over rated fighter in the whole history of MMA, fought a who's who of nobodies, Hong Man Choi for gods sake, now he's fighting Maldonado?? WTF. Got battered by Bigfoot, Ko'd by Dan Henderson (a middle weight), struggled against Brett Rogers, a novice, opted to Fight Ishii, a five fight novice, he fought Singh Jaideep, a 2 fight novice, what the hell for? Took on a 40 year old Jeff Monson, who was going nowhere. In his so called prime, he fought Matt Lindland, a middleweight, Crocop lasted the distance with him, he got exposed pretty soon after. Before Crocop he fought Tsuyoshi Kohsaka all but a light heavyweight with a record of 26-16, 2 fights previous he fought Naoya Ogawa a 7 fight novice, I could go on.

When you actually look at his record, it's padded as hell, and the top guys on his sheet were very limited on the whole. Big Nog is probably his best win, but there's quite a list of guys who have beaten him. This 'Prime Fedor' horse shit ignores all the meaningless fights he had and doesn't recognise the poor quality of opponent he faced. The Myth of the Russian Emperor is just that, a myth..

Wait a minute, so you are saying that beating nobodies takes away from the times you beat somebodies? So like... the fact that Fedor beat a bunch of top 10 and even top 5 guys in a row without losing is somehow derailed by the non-top 10s that he beat between them? How does this work?

Also, you are saying we judge a fighter by their current form and who beat them later in their career rather than by their placement during the time they fought? So like... Muhammad Ali is absolutely terrible because an amatuer boxer could beat him nowadays, and since I could beat the current form of Evan Tanner I guess he must have sucked, too? Yes, Im taking it to the extreme but its based on the same logic. You cant say a Big Nog win didnt mean much because of how many times he got beat as Zombie Nog in his 60s. Fedor beat more top 10 and top 5 guys than anyone ever had at the time, and he did so with absolutely no legit losses. It wasnt until years later that others compiled more top wins, and they didnt do it undefeated (except Jones, who might have now passed him on top wins, Im not sure).

Dont hate on history just because you dont understand it.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Cormier has never been close to being submitted

Exactly. I don't know what makes TS think that Cormier is just gonna give him his arm like that.

 

[touchedbyjab]

Fedor by armbar late in the 2nd round.

 

[Greedy Dana]

or cormier just lifts him up if he tries and dumps him on his head.

go write some long bullshit post about how much anderson sucks you fuckin dork lmao.

this x100

 

[Magnum1978]

That was a godlike armbar from a big man off his back

 

[dildos]

fedor beats up bears in his spare time. he would easily arm bar cormier if he didnt already finish him standing.

proof

bears figured they couldnt beat him so they asked him to help train their bear cubs

 

[ultrasonic]

Last time Fedor tried to submit someone

he got destroyed

almost as badly as his victor in his very next fight:

Fedor getting GNP'd by a middleweight:

Cormier GNP against an actual elite grappler:

State of Fedor after Cormier is done with him:

 

[Metallicalabran]

Maybe Cormier would be more cautious in the ground against a submission artists ?

 

[Claude]

Cormier has never been close to being submitted

That speaks more about his competition than Cormier himself. The openings are there to be exploited. If they didn't take advantage of them that's their problem. Fedor however did exploit sub openings.

 

[Claude]

The guy coming from one of the best camps in the world wouldn't gameplan and train how to defend the armbar.

No training Fedor could do would keep him from getting tossed

Seeing Cormier's ground game, tossing Fedor is the last thing he should try to do.

 

[Sinthesized]

That speaks more about his competition than Cormier himself. The openings are there to be exploited. If they didn't take advantage of them that's their problem. Fedor however did exploit sub openings.

He wouldn't sub Cormier. Cormier is an elite wrestler and he does bjj and it translates incredibly well.

 

[Klippy]

DC beats Fedor. OP is emotionally attached to Fedor Emelianenko. You can't debate with people who go based on their emotions.

Cheers.