Opinion This Administration stripped funding and fired people that would have warned about this.

[west42]

Stop lying. Trump metamorphosized the storm with his weather-telekinetic Rock person Republican power

 

[Anewt]

The OP can apologize and say he's wrong all he wants. He doesn't represent all of us who make the connection between the wholesalefireing of people in a weather monitoring and warning agency, and a weather emergency...

You're the sick fuck, pretending there isn't a connection here. This doesn't make you some hero of rational thought, you're just being a dickhead, obfuscating a very real connection between reducing the number of people responsible for assessing and warning about weather, and a weather emergency.

This thread should be stickied, and you should be carded.

But there is no connection.... this entire thread is about a connection that doesnt exist.....


The NWS office responsible for that region had five staffers on duty as thunderstorms formed over Texas Thursday evening, the usual number for an overnight shift when severe weather is expected. Current and former NWS officials defended the agency, pointing to urgent flash flood warnings issued in the pre-dawn hours before the river rose.

This thread should be deleted or at least title changed to be correct.

Why are you claiming there was less staff ?

 

[BoomStronk]

But there is no connection.... this entire thread is about a connection that doesnt exist.....


The NWS office responsible for that region had five staffers on duty as thunderstorms formed over Texas Thursday evening, the usual number for an overnight shift when severe weather is expected. Current and former NWS officials defended the agency, pointing to urgent flash flood warnings issued in the pre-dawn hours before the river rose.

This thread should be deleted or at least title changed to be correct.

Why are you claiming there was less staff ?

There were less staff, there were key experienced staff members who took early retirement. The NWS lost 600 positions in the first 6 months of 2025.

weather and flooding alerts and warnings were definitely issued on time, and the staffing during a storm event went up to 5 from 2, as is standard protocol, but it could certainly have been better. More boots on the ground, more experienced forecasters and communications specialists could have better supported local entities in broadcasting these warnings.

The NWS technically fulfilled its minimum function, and there's no direct smoking gun here regarding the NWS not issuing warnings, but with a properly-staffed roster they could have better supproted lcoal agencies and quite likely could have helped disseminate the warnings more effectively.

there WERE less staff. there were 5 forecasters instead of the usual 2 at the New Braunfels office, but the overall capacity and depth of experience of the NWS was clearly reduced.

 

[Mr Holmes]

The OP can apologize and say he's wrong all he wants. He doesn't represent all of us who make the connection between the wholesalefireing of people in a weather monitoring and warning agency, and a weather emergency...

You're the sick fuck, pretending there isn't a connection here. This doesn't make you some hero of rational thought, you're just being a dickhead, obfuscating a very real connection between reducing the number of people responsible for assessing and warning about weather, and a weather emergency.

This thread should be stickied, and you should be carded.

Everything I've read so far suggests there isn't any sort of dropped ball here. Do you have something other than vibes to back up what you're saying?

 

[K-Bag]

I heard Trump released the water himself!!

 

[Scerpi]

Everything I've read so far suggests there isn't any sort of dropped ball here. Do you have something other than vibes to back up what you're saying?

It's low IQ trolling... not even clever

Just when you think these clowns can't shit out a lower IQ post

That guy crawls out of the toilet bowl and takes it

lol

 

[Scerpi]

There were less staff, there were key experienced staff members who took early retirement. The NWS lost 600 positions in the first 6 months of 2025.

weather and flooding alerts and warnings were definitely issued on time, and the staffing during a storm event went up to 5 from 2, as is standard protocol, but it could certainly have been better. More boots on the ground, more experienced forecasters and communications specialists could have better supported local entities in broadcasting these warnings.

The NWS technically fulfilled its minimum function, and there's no direct smoking gun here regarding the NWS not issuing warnings, but with a properly-staffed roster they could have better supproted lcoal agencies and quite likely could have helped disseminate the warnings more effectively.

there WERE less staff. there were 5 forecasters instead of the usual 2 at the New Braunfels office, but the overall capacity and depth of experience of the NWS was clearly reduced.

Clearly you're a retard

lol

 

[BoomStronk]

Everything I've read so far suggests there isn't any sort of dropped ball here. Do you have something other than vibes to back up what you're saying?

"Questions remain, however, about the level of coordination and communication between NWS and local officials on the night of the disaster. The Trump administration has cut hundreds of jobs at NWS, with staffing down by at least 20% at nearly half of the 122 NWS field offices nationally and at least a half dozen no longer staffed 24 hours a day. Hundreds more experienced forecasters and senior managers were encouraged to retire early."

Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather forecasts ahead of deadly Texas floods

Former federal officials and outside experts have warned for months that President Donald Trump’s staffing cuts to the National Weather Service could endanger lives.

apnews.com

"Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials"

As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

www.nytimes.com

" The NWS works with many partners, including those from national and local government, members of the weather enterprise, Weather-Ready Nation Ambassadors, and Academia to help educate people in all communities on how to stay safe and ensure important weather information, such as warnings, reach the broadest possible audience. "

NWS Partners

"Collaboration with NWS could optimize the resources and enhance the capabilities in floodresponse and emergency management."

https://www.twdb.texas.gov/flood/research/fews-guidance-doc-2022/doc/Flood-Early-Warning-Systems-FEWS-Guidance.pdf

 

[BoomStronk]

Clearly you're a retard

lol

oh, good one! Both the insults and the intelligence of a 9 year old.

 

[Scerpi]

oh, good one! Both the insults and the intelligence of a 9 year old.

Cope harder retard

 

[Mr Holmes]

"Questions remain, however, about the level of coordination and communication between NWS and local officials on the night of the disaster. The Trump administration has cut hundreds of jobs at NWS, with staffing down by at least 20% at nearly half of the 122 NWS field offices nationally and at least a half dozen no longer staffed 24 hours a day. Hundreds more experienced forecasters and senior managers were encouraged to retire early."

Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather forecasts ahead of deadly Texas floods

Former federal officials and outside experts have warned for months that President Donald Trump’s staffing cuts to the National Weather Service could endanger lives.

apnews.com

"Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials"

As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

www.nytimes.com

" The NWS works with many partners, including those from national and local government, members of the weather enterprise, Weather-Ready Nation Ambassadors, and Academia to help educate people in all communities on how to stay safe and ensure important weather information, such as warnings, reach the broadest possible audience. "

NWS Partners

"Collaboration with NWS could optimize the resources and enhance the capabilities in floodresponse and emergency management."

https://www.twdb.texas.gov/flood/research/fews-guidance-doc-2022/doc/Flood-Early-Warning-Systems-FEWS-Guidance.pdf

NYT is paywalled. The first article says they did everything correct but there are questions. That sounds like speculation to me.

 

[BoomStronk]

NYT is paywalled. The first article says they did everything correct but there are questions. That sounds like speculation to me.

I said as much. Did either of you circle jerk cowboys read ny posts?

 

[Anewt]

There were less staff, there were key experienced staff members who took early retirement. The NWS lost 600 positions in the first 6 months of 2025.

weather and flooding alerts and warnings were definitely issued on time, and the staffing during a storm event went up to 5 from 2, as is standard protocol, but it could certainly have been better. More boots on the ground, more experienced forecasters and communications specialists could have better supported local entities in broadcasting these warnings.

The NWS technically fulfilled its minimum function, and there's no direct smoking gun here regarding the NWS not issuing warnings, but with a properly-staffed roster they could have better supproted lcoal agencies and quite likely could have helped disseminate the warnings more effectively.

there WERE less staff. there were 5 forecasters instead of the usual 2 at the New Braunfels office, but the overall capacity and depth of experience of the NWS was clearly reduced.

So.

They had the same amount of staff on ... they got the warnings out within the standard time frame.....

And youre still running with... they were understaffed and its trumps fault.

..?

Timeline shows when emergency alerts warned of Texas flood disaster

CBS News analysis shows there were 22 warnings sent by the National Weather Service for Kerr County and the Kerrville area, but many residents say they didn't get alerts.

www.cbsnews.com

CBS News analysis shows there were 22 warnings sent by the National Weather Service for Kerr County and the Kerrville area, with escalating language about the urgency of the situation..



A number of other weather service messages had been sent July 2-3 to western and central areas of the state about the risk of flooding, but none foresaw the 20 inches of rain that would drench some locations when storms converged with added moisture from the remnants of Tropical Storm Barry, moving northwards from Mexico.


But sure its trumps fault... definetely


It was a unforeseen weather event that occured in the dead of night. Its a tradgedy and your system may need a revamp. Although apart from physically trying to contact people i dont know wjat more you can do really. Not everyone is going to check messages at 1am .

Its a tradgedy. More boots on the ground? What nws officials going out and warning people? Or you think they would give earlier warning? I dont get your logic

 

[Mr Holmes]

I said as much. Did either of you circle jerk cowboys read ny posts?

Yeah I did.

You're the sick fuck, pretending there isn't a connection here

 

[BoomStronk]

Cope harder retard

Cope with what, your meager intelligence? We all are, kiddo. This post isnt a gotcha. Did you even read my posts
? ...can you even read my posts?

 

[BoomStronk]

Yeah I did.

So you would say that there is no connection between cutting nws funding and staff, which historically supports local agencies and entities in better communicating flood warnings, and a tragedy involving insufficient warnings about a flood?

You think its unfair of me to state there's a *connection* between these things?

Tisk, tisk...

 

[BoomStronk]

So.

They had the same amount of staff on ... they got the warnings out within the standard time frame.....

And youre still running with... they were understaffed and its trumps fault.

..?

Timeline shows when emergency alerts warned of Texas flood disaster

CBS News analysis shows there were 22 warnings sent by the National Weather Service for Kerr County and the Kerrville area, but many residents say they didn't get alerts.

www.cbsnews.com

CBS News analysis shows there were 22 warnings sent by the National Weather Service for Kerr County and the Kerrville area, with escalating language about the urgency of the situation..



A number of other weather service messages had been sent July 2-3 to western and central areas of the state about the risk of flooding, but none foresaw the 20 inches of rain that would drench some locations when storms converged with added moisture from the remnants of Tropical Storm Barry, moving northwards from Mexico.


But sure its trumps fault... definetely


It was a unforeseen weather event that occured in the dead of night. Its a tradgedy and your system may need a revamp. Although apart from physically trying to contact people i dont know wjat more you can do really. Not everyone is going to check messages at 1am .

Its a tradgedy. More boots on the ground? What nws officials going out and warning people? Or you think they would give earlier warning? I dont get your logic

Its not my system that needs (proper funding, not "revamping")

I didnt say i blame trump for this, thats a disingenous exagersrion of my post
i said it was true that there is a connection between the funding cuts abd a lack of support for local entities to issue appropriate warnings. Actually, i referenced other editorials that said that.

Yes, nws in situations like this historically helps spread awareness and customize messaging and approaches to support local communities and governments. And yes, as mentioned in the articles I linked, nws has done things with boots on the ground like going door to door yo relate urgent messages.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

So you would say that there is no connection between cutting nws funding and staff, which historically supports local agencies and entities in better communicating flood warnings, and a tragedy involving insufficient warnings about a flood?

You think its unfair of me to state there's a *connection* between these things?

Tisk, tisk...

Bro, they got 22 warnings with escalating language…. Do you think 23 would have made a difference?

Tragedies happen unexpectedly.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

It was tongue n cheek but leave it up to a righty for it to go over your head.

Sure thing just don't unleash that army on me bro

 

[west42]

"Questions remain, however, about the level of coordination and communication between NWS and local officials on the night of the disaster. The Trump administration has cut hundreds of jobs at NWS, with staffing down by at least 20% at nearly half of the 122 NWS field offices nationally and at least a half dozen no longer staffed 24 hours a day. Hundreds more experienced forecasters and senior managers were encouraged to retire early."

Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather forecasts ahead of deadly Texas floods

Former federal officials and outside experts have warned for months that President Donald Trump’s staffing cuts to the National Weather Service could endanger lives.

apnews.com

"Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials"

As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

www.nytimes.com

" The NWS works with many partners, including those from national and local government, members of the weather enterprise, Weather-Ready Nation Ambassadors, and Academia to help educate people in all communities on how to stay safe and ensure important weather information, such as warnings, reach the broadest possible audience. "

NWS Partners

"Collaboration with NWS could optimize the resources and enhance the capabilities in floodresponse and emergency management."

https://www.twdb.texas.gov/flood/research/fews-guidance-doc-2022/doc/Flood-Early-Warning-Systems-FEWS-Guidance.pdf

I heard they had negative 70 people working at the NWS in Texas