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Things That Should be Taught

StonedLemur said:
I grew up with a lot of hardship and very nearly broke me so you have a good view on that stuff sir.
I became mentally/internally stronger when I quit drugs by locking myself in my house for weeks...that was 16 going on 17 years ago.

Before that I was dealing with my past in all the wrong ways.
I was good at school work, but external things really fucked my shit up with that path.
I always loved to learn and have been following that for a long time, but wrestling and school got pushed away due to my other issues.

You're a good man who obviously cares about people, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that my friend.
We all take different roads to the place we end up, and some of us take the long way around...not me though lol
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where have you arrived at spiritually that you would speak about having not come in the long way around? if you have been on the path for 16 or so years where have you come to? I've got friends who reached the fullness of enlightenment in less time man.

one of my friends reached sainthood (really and officially according to the strict system of yogic discipline) in only 6 years and even he does not speak as if he came in quickly.
 
How money works is probably the #1 thing. Not even just basic personal finances, which should be a given, but investing, borrowing and interest, tax write offs. You're probably going to pay close to $1 million in your lifetime in just interest, so it's probably a good idea to know that beforehand and make decisions accordingly.
 
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terrapin said:
where have you arrived at spiritually that you would speak about having not come in the long way around? if you have been on the path for 16 or so years where have you come to? I've got friends who reached the fullness of enlightenment in less time man.

one of my friends reached sainthood (really and officially according to the strict system of yogic discipline) in only 6 years and even he does not speak as if he came in quickly.
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Not sure I understand what you mean sir.
16 years ago was simply a fork in the road, the journey is never over.
Im not looking for an end game, Im looking for the next road forward.
 
I feel like students need to see a educational movie about for instance
4 young people and how their puberty life choices
affected the life they will lead in their 20s and 30s.

When I hear students can't read an analog clock anymore, I worry.
 
Statistics.
Scientific method.

I know schools skim over it but it should be taught at a way deeper level.
 
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pugilistico said:
My driving teacher in high school taught us that and that was useful. I don't know how much I retained though because I have go on youtube to refresh these things.


That's nice. My high school didn't have a cooking class or wrestling team.
I don't think you can teach social awareness to people who aren't interested, and having a standardized curriculum for social skills sounds weird. But I wish there was something that was taught. I used to work with very small children and I really tried to teach kids the best I can to handle certain situations using social skills because most kids would either cry and wait for an adult to handle things for them, or use violence.




You're obviously biased and taking things too personally. I used to be an educator too lol
If you read my post I did educate myself.
I merely said it would be nice if they (as in school, parents, maybe society) taught kids certain things and you responded by taking things personally and started attacking me. If you think what I said is a slight on you, then that's your problem. I'm sorry for the kids you taught if that's how you responded to them if they ever expressed something.
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My response to you was admittedly overheated. Reason being, I'm constantly hearing and reading about adults always blaming school systems and parents for things they don't know. I'll be honest, most of what I know and am good at I learned on my own.

And no, I don't consider your response a slight. As for how I taught and treated my kids, I did so with the utmost respect and love. They were family to me. I always encouraged them to state their thoughts, feelings and opinions and stressed to my class that we will not be judgmental of their opinions.

One of things that always pissed me off being a teacher was people thinking my words and actions outside the classroom were exactly the same as they were when I was in the classroom. Complete B.S.

I always stayed in the lower grades because they are the most important to me and to students.

And as I stated earlier, there is a lot of wasted time in education on useless things. That I will agree with. I mean Jesus Christ, who gives a fuck what a gerund is or what the object of the preposition is. The whole point of reading is fluency and comprehension.

My apologies if you thought I was attacking you personally. I wasn't. It's just a very sensitive subject for me. There remains a sector of our society who likes to blame other entities for things they don't know about when we currently have so much information at our disposable that there really is no excuse anymore.
Sorry for the rant.
 
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StonedLemur said:
Not sure I understand what you mean sir.
16 years ago was simply a fork in the road, the journey is never over.
Im not looking for an end game, Im looking for the next road forward.
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What did you mean by this?

"We all take different roads to the place we end up, and some of us take the long way around...not me though lol"

I took it to imply that you think you took a direct road somewhere. That may be incorrect but then you seem to be interpreting other people's experiences naively using your own as the standard without realizing the countless unstated factors that go into a person's experience that you don't and.cant know. So then that makes me think maybe you are using yourself as the standard.

But either way what you say now I will take it face valie.
 
terrapin said:
@dirtypablo


What did you mean by this?

"We all take different roads to the place we end up, and some of us take the long way around...not me though lol"

I took it to imply that you think you took a direct road somewhere. That may be incorrect but then you seem to be interpreting other people's experiences naively using your own as the standard without realizing the countless unstated factors that go into a person's experience that you don't and.cant know. So then that makes me think maybe you are using yourself as the standard.

But either way what you say now I will take it face valie.
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I did take the direct route sir, to the wrong place lol.
I guess I didn't express that correctly there my B.
 
StonedLemur said:
I did take the direct route sir, to the wrong place lol.
I guess I didn't express that correctly there my B.
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Not your bad at all man. You said it just fine. I just wanted to clarify is all and thank you for that!!

That makes my last post to you completely irrelevant. Just disregard it.

I thought there was a chance you were using yourself as the measure in comparing other people's experiences to your own and trying to give advice based on what you did and that would have been really naive. But I can see now that that's not what you were doing so it's completely irrelevant.

That's the reason I brought up my friend who reached the fullness of enlightenment in 6 years, which basically puts every single other person on the planet except other enlightened people beneath him in the areas of psychological and spiritual developments.

And that would mean everybody's taking the slow route compared to him!!!
 
AFanNotAFighter said:
JFC.
Another one blaming the school system for things their parents should have taught them or they could have educated themselves about. I'm sick and tired of grown ass adults blaming school systems for things they don't know or can't do.
Really?
So the whole time you were in school, and even when you finished high school, you never educated yourself or learned about anything outside the scholastic environment?
Or were you too lazy to educate yourself about things and would rather play the victim role?
By the way: I'm a retired public educator.
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Shit bro that s a bit harsh. You can tell TS did not figure out these things.
 
StonedLemur said:
Dealing with bullies sucks, and I don't think you need to be taught how to punch to blow a bully out of his shoes...I didn't.

There are a lot of things that parents don't teach, but maybe because they weren't taught themselves.
Or maybe some parents want you to figure things out for yourself because they won't always be there to teach you.
I don't know what goes through parents heads, as I don't have kids.

I do feel like we teach ourselves in many ways and going through the learning process is what sets those things as permanent in our memories.
We are the ones that ultimately have to succeed even if we don't have great parents or great schools.

There are many people willing to help you along the way, some are only in your life a short while before they're gone.
Its up to us to recognize the real ones from the fake ones and hold one to the real ones for dear life.

Sorry for the rant sir.
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You just mentioned you don t have kids. You come across as someone who would have been a good father, sir.
 
terrapin said:
Not your bad at all man. You said it just fine. I just wanted to clarify is all and thank you for that!!

That makes my last post to you completely irrelevant. Just disregard it.

I thought there was a chance you were using yourself as the measure in comparing other people's experiences to your own and trying to give advice based on what you did and that would have been really naive. But I can see now that that's not what you were doing so it's completely irrelevant.

That's the reason I brought up my friend who reached the fullness of enlightenment in 6 years, which basically puts every single other person on the planet except other enlightened people beneath him in the areas of psychological and spiritual developments.

And that would mean everybody's taking the slow route compared to him!!!
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Im not lookin for enlightenment to be honest sir.
Im lookin to be the best version of myself.

To me accomplishments are not for me to decide.
 
Sex. I learned how to have sex from porn magazines & library books, lots of people my age also learned from watching porn. I'm pretty sure this is not the best way to learn the language of love.
 
terrapin said:
I thought you were on a spiritual path of some kind man?
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I am, but its of my own making, I don't follow any one thing.
Its personal between me and me, not some outside forces.

I see it as learning, endlessly and that everything I learn becomes part of my journey.
Its why I always say...

"Im just a man trying to navigate the world around me".

Because every day is different and ranges from impossible to cruising.
Every single day is an opportunity to learn something new about the world and myself.
 
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