Rewatch Thiago Alves vs Josh Koscheck

[613]

Consider that Fitch (Koscheck's training partner at AKA and another wrestler) beat Alves twice, I wonder how this would've gone if Josh had a full camp? It's still an impressive win for Alves. Prime Alves vs. Ian Garry would be an interesting fight. Ian would have his usual height/reach advantage, but if Alves could connect some of those kicks to those long, toothpick legs...I don't know long Ian could remain mobile.

Fitch fought him when he was green. Then Alves peaked really high and was probably the #2 WW. When he fought Fitch the second time it was after his brain surgery and he was noticeably in terrible shape

 

[DrederickH8m]

I remember this fight. I don’t recall it being this awesome when it happened due to other big shots making bigger waves. Thanks for the reminder. GSP had the best opponents and out matched out of all fighters.

 

[Wreckless]

Back then welterweights were 5'6 - 5'9 the same average height as featherweight today, a 5'10 is considered huge, welterweights nowadays are 5'11 minimum.

I remember Rogan mentioning how big Alves was when they were doing the intros in the GSP fight. He said he would walk around at least 200 pounds or something.

Guys were much shorter back then probably cause they didn't cut as much weight.

 

[CashMoney1991]

I forgot about this guy, he was very good, yet GSP dominated him like he did with everyone else in his title run except Hendricks

 

[pamirec]

Alves’s way to the title was really impressive. He showed great td defence against Kos I was scurred for my boy GSP. Fortunately GSP’s takedowns turned out to be to good to defend.

 

[generalyum]

I didn’t know Alves had brain surgery, scary stuff.

To this day, the cleanest leg kick I've ever seen in the UFC

 

[yekmurat]

Alves was one of my favorites his win over Hughes was awesome (even though he was juiced to the gills)

 

[NoSmilez]

USADA and brain surgery ended his career. He is a decent striker but he had T-Rex arms.

 

[dog y]

Fact: Jim Miller beat Thiago Alves and lost to Diego Sanchez in the same year.

(And it was one of Diego's non-robbery wins too.)

Diego was solid before... Everything

 

[MillingMeSoftly]

his KO of Karo was scary

Dropped like a sack of potatoes

 

[Dorkman]

Karo and Hughes wins were extremely impressive

The hughes win did come with a bit of a grain of salt though. Matt took it on short notice as a favor to the UFC, and Alves missed weight by 3 lbs.

 

[Frode Falch]

Alves footwork to deliver his low kicks was on point.

From memory, I thought that Alves was often unaware of his cage positioning (GSP) which affected his game.

Alves footwork to deliver his low kicks was on point.

From memory, I thought that Alves was often unaware of his cage positioning (GSP) which affected his game.

Yeah. Prime Alves had two weaknesses. Being to big for the weight class. And defensive foot work when having his back to the cage.

 

[samuelsoncast]

USADA and brain surgery ended his career. He is a decent striker but he had T-Rex arms.

And now wants that BKB money

 

[minowasmullet]

Gifting Kampmann a fight he was winning easily was pretty bad

 

[Frode Falch]

Gifting Kampmann a fight he was winning easily was pretty bad

Dude.. dont remind me of that shit

 

[aali14]

Fact: Jim Miller beat Thiago Alves and lost to Diego Sanchez in the same year.

(And it was one of Diego's non-robbery wins too.)

Alves vs Koscheck was in 2008, his fight with Miller took place 8 years later in 2016, what are you talking about?

 

[mkt]

I forgot about this guy, he was very good, yet GSP dominated him like he did with everyone else in his title run except Hendricks

Koscheck also gave Hendricks a very good battle. Some think he should've won the decision. After that, he fell apart. He was around 35 at the time and I guess he just had one more great performance. Many other WW and MWs did the same thing: Ellenberger, Woodley, Lawler, Weidman, Rockhold, etc. Went from prime to a losing streak after one fight.

 

[mkt]

Gifting Kampmann a fight he was winning easily was pretty bad

Yeah, dominated Kampmann (a good but chinny striker in his own right) and unexplainably went for a TD late in the 3rd round and got subbed. One of the worst Fight IQ moves ever.

 

[mkt]

I wanted to see some combination of Alves, Paul Daley and WW Rumble when all were active around the same time. All would've been good striking wars. Of course Rumble would squash the others like a grape if there were no weight cuts, but 170-pound Rumble was always a wild card.

 

[VinceArch]

The natty 3.