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Fucking blew. My back and legs are fried like hell.Barely stood with 80. I decided I'd squat and do my best.


Squat(lbs)
212x5
255x4
296 2x3
340 4x3
340 x 2

Fuck. Really awful day. I' going to try and relax tomorrow and Monday. Eat some good food and hopefully come back strong. Oh and to not have a sore ass.
 
xPINKx said:
Why is everybody getting swole next year?!
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Because judicious hypertrophy work creates conditions for more successful strength work. A muscle that's bigger has greater potential to get stronger, and a muscle that does't fatigue as easily can train harder, and recover faster.
 
Tosa said:
Because judicious hypertrophy work creates conditions for more successful strength work. A muscle that's bigger has greater potential to get stronger, and a muscle that does't fatigue as easily can train harder, and recover faster.
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And it just looks bloody good.
 
Tosa said:
Because judicious hypertrophy work creates conditions for more successful strength work. A muscle that's bigger has greater potential to get stronger, and a muscle that does't fatigue as easily can train harder, and recover faster.
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I am aware of that and it's why I'll be incorporating it, but a little swolertrophy seems to be trendy these days. Especially as New Year's resolution...
 
xPINKx said:
I am aware of that and it's why I'll be incorporating it, but a little swolertrophy seems to be trendy these days. Especially as New Year's resolution...
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Maybe as a whole we're maturing, and can have moved past the whole "only big compound barbell lifts done heavy" as an overreaction to, and to separate ourselves from, the gym idiots. And now we can feel much more comfortable with including some brotastic exercises. Hell, I'm even going to be giving leg press a try. Madness.
 
Tosa said:
Because judicious hypertrophy work creates conditions for more successful strength work. A muscle that's bigger has greater potential to get stronger, and a muscle that does't fatigue as easily can train harder, and recover faster.
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Am I right in saying that hypertorphy is, as far as actual training is concerned, a function of Volume rather than Reps?

For example, Wendler's Boring But Big is 5X10, while Chad Wesley Smith's Inverted Juggernaut Method is 10X5. But the results would be the same, yes?
 
Tosa said:
Maybe as a whole we're maturing, and can have moved past the whole "only big compound barbell lifts done heavy" as an overreaction to, and to separate ourselves from, the gym idiots. And now we can feel much more comfortable with including some brotastic exercises. Hell, I'm even going to be giving leg press a try. Madness.
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Blasphemer! Kill him with fire!!:icon_evil








Sorry, Tosa; it's a Pavlovian response...:redface::D
 
KnightTemplar said:
Am I right in saying that hypertorphy is, as far as actual training is concerned, a function of Volume rather than Reps?

For example, Wendler's Boring But Big is 5X10, while Chad Wesley Smith's Inverted Juggernaut Method is 10X5. But the results would be the same, yes?
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Yes. I'd say total volume / time, assuming intensity is sufficient, would be the way to sum it up. So to use your above example, 10x5 or 5x10 would be the same, if they're done in the same amount of time.

[Tangent] Now to be fair, Miaou would disagree about the time aspect, because there isn't a satisfactory study supporting it. But I think that there's reason enough to believe it's a factor - it's in both "Supertraining" and "Science and Practice", it fits with what's known and believed to be most likely regarding hypertrophy, and there's plenty of anecdotal evidence. So I think that's it's reasonable to believe and train, as if time is a factor, until there's evidence to show otherwise.[/Tangent]
 
belph getting swole!
I demand pictures (newdz) in 2013 belph
 
Tosa said:
Yes. I'd say total volume / time, assuming intensity is sufficient, would be the way to sum it up. So to use your above example, 10x5 or 5x10 would be the same, if they're done in the same amount of time.

[Tangent] Now to be fair, Miaou would disagree about the time aspect, because there isn't a satisfactory study supporting it. But I think that there's reason enough to believe it's a factor - it's in both "Supertraining" and "Science and Practice", it fits with what's known and believed to be most likely regarding hypertrophy, and there's plenty of anecdotal evidence. So I think that's it's reasonable to believe and train, as if time is a factor, until there's evidence to show otherwise.[/Tangent]
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It would seem Smith agrees with you; he states that you should only have 1 minute's rest between sets in the Inverted Juggernaut Method. He regards this as vital to the success of the program.

To be honest, I love getting my Swole on as much as the next guy. Unfortunately my love for programs like BBB or Juggernaut is unrequited: too much volume quickly leads to me developing a nasty case of Tendinitis.:icon_evil

Even Wendler admits that BBB is probably too hard on the joints for the older Lifter.
 
Tosa said:
Now to be fair, Miaou would disagree about the time aspect, because there isn't a satisfactory study supporting it. But I think that there's reason enough to believe it's a factor - it's in both "Supertraining" and "Science and Practice", it fits with what's known and believed to be most likely regarding hypertrophy, and there's plenty of anecdotal evidence. So I think that's it's reasonable to believe and train, as if time is a factor, until there's evidence to show otherwise.
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Still not convinced, especially not as far as contractile muscle protein increase is concerned. Thanks for being fair, though!

Can you mention the chapter this is mentioned in in Supertraining?
 
miaou said:
Still not convinced, especially not as far as contractile muscle protein increase is concerned. Thanks for being fair, though!

Can you mention the chapter this is mentioned in in Supertraining?
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I was giving Belph a chance to disagree with me. Or maybe I felt being fair to save time and avoid having the same discussion twice.

I'll look it up for you when I get home. It'll be several hours though.
 
belph said:
Clean

Fucking blew. My back and legs are fried like hell.Barely stood with 80. I decided I'd squat and do my best.


Squat(lbs)
212x5
255x4
296 2x3
340 4x3
340 x 2

Fuck. Really awful day. I' going to try and relax tomorrow and Monday. Eat some good food and hopefully come back strong. Oh and to not have a sore ass.
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340 for multiple triples sounds like a decent session to me.

Unless you wrote all that to indirectly say the 340 for 3x3 I did the other day was awful.
 
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