Economy The [Wall / Government Shutdown] Megathread

[spin]

DAYUM!

And yet, Fuck giving that bitch the time of day. No matter who she goes after.

 

[kahiljabroni]

you guys really are that dumb eh?

Trump caved now, instead of just keeping them out for months or a year as he threatened, as the airports and other services were starting to shut down. Instead of just 800,000 in govt service work inconvenienced, millions more were about to be inconvenienced. Public sentiment for Trump had already started to sink and it would plummet once every day citizens started to feel the pain.

Trump thought the Dem's would cave first but they would not. They WILL not.

if Trump puts all of them out of work again, now after seeing all the pain and crying many of them were doing on TV, and if he uses them as ping pong balls, when he KNOWS the Dem's won't negotiate under that threat, he is doing nothing but hurting the workers and citizens as he already knows it does not work to get a deal. So what is the point other than hurting workers and citizens? And who is going to wear that if they do it deliberately and knowingly?

Congrats the caravans will continue to form...this is call for celebration.

You tds douchers are sad...

 

[7437]

You don't think he has alternative plans?

He didn't even have a first plan.

 

[Seano]

I thought Trump could just declare a national emergency and push it through?

Thats one of his options at the end of this 3 weeks.

 

[7437]

Trump just tweeted:
"I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!"

Lol.

He did it to help the workers but also fuck those workers if he doesn't get his way.

 

[chardog]

Lol.

He did it to help the workers but also fuck those workers if he doesn't get his way.

bad strategy from the get go

he should have just pushed it through, everyone would have forgotten by now

 

[7437]

bad strategy from the get go

he should have just pushed it through, everyone would have forgotten by now

I think it's pretty clear he has no strategy for anything.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Thats one of his options at the end of this 3 weeks.

Except its not.

Well not if you want something that can work anyway.

 

[EnsaladaLEGACY]

lol trump shutting down the government is hilarious... i hope he does it again... fuck the dems

 

[Limbo Pete]

I think it's pretty clear he has no strategy for anything.

The product of living and entire life of extravagant wealth and privilege, coupled with extreme narcissism and ignorance, and propped up by an almost complete lack of accountability. He's used to getting what he demands by virtue of being the one demanding it. And if things go sideways? Somebody else pays. I think he legit views himself as royalty.

 

[Seano]

You don't think it is a misrepresentation for the administration to talk about the amount if narcotics brought into this country while refusing to acknowledge that the drug enforcement agencies in this country have concluded that the vast majority of narcotics do not enter the country through illegal crossings

Trump has not done his homework on the subject and as such is platform is not based on any evidence or even logical reasoning

Where are you getting this idea there is public support for a wall at all? There's never been a poll indicating there us support for a wall, especially not a non-Mexico financed one. I know you'll dispute any and all polls, but then you are still left with supposition as your only backing for your view point. And don't say because Trump was elected because you can vote for someone without supporting all their policy positions.

A lot of drugs do come over that border. There are massive busts at the border all the time.

And that last paragraph is pretty bogus, ask a question and then say the obvious correct answer doesn't matter.

 

[Seano]

Except its not.

Well not if you want something that can work anyway.

Well, except it is.

 

[Juventud]

It would be incredibly petty and kind of hilarious if Trump just reopened the government so he could hold the state of the union in the House, then shuts it again. Because you know he doesn't give a shit about the workers going without pay.

 

[ScottE]

A lot of drugs do come over that border. There are massive busts at the border all the time.

And that last paragraph is pretty bogus, ask a question and then say the obvious correct answer doesn't matter.

There being massive busts at the border does not mean that there is a substantial amount of drugs being walked across the border. The DEA has said as much. So if drugs are a problem then the wall isn't a solution.

What's bogus is your reasoning. Are you seriously asserting that by a person can't disagree with some policy positions of a candidate and yet still vote for that candidate? That's just out and out retarded logic. And that's not even getting into that he wasn't even elected with popular support either. Come on with this nuttery.

 

[Culombo]

 

[PEB]

 

[spin]

It would be incredibly petty and kind of hilarious if Trump just reopened the government so he could hold the state of the union in the House, then shuts it again. Because you know he doesn't give a shit about the workers going without pay.

its also incredibly likely.

 

[spin]

 

[abiG]

What sanctuary cities has to do with the difference between "tougher measures" and the wall escapes me.

My understanding is that the "sanctuary" policy encourages illegals to get there with the idea they will be welcomed with open arms.

Is it something else?

 

[shockaholic12]

its also incredibly likely.

I think it’s incredibly unlikely. Trump tapped out of this fight now because of the exponentially increasing pressure that a long shutdown entails. It accomplished nothing more than a blow to his approval ratings, making Nancy look stronger than him, and a humiliating day on the internet with him getting it from liberals and conservatives.

I think the absolute last place Trump will go is back into the same situation.