Economy The [Wall / Government Shutdown] Megathread

[Lead]

Not bad. The lines could’ve been better but I think they did the right angles on each person.

 

[glenwo2]

hey there glenwo2,

from NPR;

While the longest government shutdown in U.S. history continues, President Trump's approval rating is down, and there are cracks showing with his base.

• Down significantly among suburban men, a net-positive approval rating of 51-to-39 percent to a net-negative of 42 percent approve, 48 percent disapprove. That's a net change of down 18 percentage points.
• Down a net of 13 points among white evangelicals, from 73-to-17 percent approve to 66-to-23 percent approve.
• Down a net of 10 points among Republicans, from 90-to-7 percent approve to 83-to-10 percent.
• Down marginally among white men without a college degree, from 56-to-34 percent approve to 50-to-35 percent approve, a net change downward of 7 points.

non partisan and non-corporate owned media. just a bit of context, 'ol buddy!

- IGIT

They just mentioned in the vid that support from the Latino Community is way up, which is the POINT of the vid and link.

So you agree that NPR is legit then? Then that means those Polls regarding Latinos are legit, right? right.

 

[IGIT]

hi there glenwo2,

They just mentioned in the vid that support from the Latino Community is way up, which is the POINT of the vid and link.

yup.

So you agree that NPR is legit then?

yep.

Then that means those Polls regarding Latinos are legit, right? right.

yep, that's what the poll yielded. it also yielded the results i cited in my NPR link.

we're both right!

*high five*

- IGIT

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

Rep. Nita M. Lowry D-NY sponsored a bill to pay the gov workers during the shutdown. The Dems have control of the house, and they could easily have passed it.
Congressional Roll Call: Jan. 18, 2019
Partial Government Shutdown: The House has rejected the Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act (H.J. Res. 27), sponsored by Rep. Nita M. Lowey, D-N.Y. The bill would have provided funding through Feb. 1 for the various federal government agencies whose funding has lapsed due to the partial shutdown. Lowey said it aimed to provide “time for Congress to come to a full-year agreement without further jeopardizing vital services or the pay of federal workers.”

The vote, on Tuesday, was 237 yeas to 187 nays, with a two-thirds majority required for approval.

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Congressional-roll-call-22873332
They chose not to.

One of the "nay" votes was cast by none other than... drumroll please...

Rep. Nita M. Lowry D-NY.

Yup.



I'm still trying to figure this out. It was such bad optics for the Dems to put up a bill to pay the gov workers, only to shoot it down themselves. Even the sponsor of the bill shot it down. WTF?

The only theory I have is that Nita Lowry threw it together, and tossed it up, in a fit of overenthusiastic virtue signalling without even bothering to run it by the party bosses to get their blessing. Nancy and Chuckie must've beat down on her like hockey goons when they saw the idiot trying to take away their ORANGE MAN SHUTDOWN BAD toy, and they kicked the shit out of her, and forced her to strangle her own baby in the crib.

This is a YUGE blunder by the Dems, but, it doesn't matter, because their mainstream media propaganda wing is totally ignoring the whole debacle.

The only way I found out about is was a via a tweet by Congressman Porno Pirate.

 

[KILL KILL]

Rep. Nita M. Lowry D-NY sponsored a bill to pay the gov workers during the shutdown. The Dems have control of the house, and they could easily have passed it.
Congressional Roll Call: Jan. 18, 2019
Partial Government Shutdown: The House has rejected the Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act (H.J. Res. 27), sponsored by Rep. Nita M. Lowey, D-N.Y. The bill would have provided funding through Feb. 1 for the various federal government agencies whose funding has lapsed due to the partial shutdown. Lowey said it aimed to provide “time for Congress to come to a full-year agreement without further jeopardizing vital services or the pay of federal workers.”

The vote, on Tuesday, was 237 yeas to 187 nays, with a two-thirds majority required for approval.

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Congressional-roll-call-22873332
They chose not to.

One of the "nay" votes was cast by none other than... drumroll please...

Rep. Nita M. Lowry D-NY.

Yup.



I'm still trying to figure this out. It was such bad optics for the Dems to put up a bill to pay the gov workers, only to shoot it down themselves. Even the sponsor of the bill shot it down. WTF?

The only theory I have is that Nita Lowry threw it together, and tossed it up, in a fit of overenthusiastic virtue signalling without even bothering to run it by the party bosses to get their blessing. Nancy and Chuckie must've beat down on her like hockey goons when they saw the idiot trying to take away their ORANGE MAN SHUTDOWN BAD toy, and they kicked the shit out of her, and forced her to strangle her own baby in the crib.

This is a YUGE blunder by the Dems, but, it doesn't matter, because their mainstream media propaganda wing is totally ignoring the whole debacle.

The only way I found out about is was a via a tweet by Congressman Porno Pirate.

From your own article,

It didn't pass because the general consensus was...

An opponent, Rep. Robert B. Aderholt, R-Ala., said a short-term funding bill would leave the basic budget impasse between Democrats and Republicans unresolved, and Aderholt called for negotiations to develop a permanent solution for fiscal 2019 funding.

 

[Rod1]

Nancy and Chuckie must've beat down on her like hockey goons when they saw the idiot trying to take away their ORANGE MAN SHUTDOWN BAD toy, and they kicked the shit out of her, and forced her to strangle her own baby in the crib.

Unless it had funding for a wall it would had been shutdown in the Senate, because Orange man wants his concrete wall.

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

From your own article,

It didn't pass because the general consensus was...

Yet he voted for but the Dem who introduced it didn't.
Makes perfect sense.

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

Unless it had funding for a wall it would had been shutdown in the Senate, because Orange man wants his concrete wall.

We'll never know because Dems killed it in the crib, their own bill that only pertained to employees pay.

 

[Falsedawn]

We'll never know because Dems killed it in the crib, their own bill that only pertained to employees pay.

Considering that McConnell has literally been saying just that, we do know. This isn't telephone, we can look at his public statements.

 

[Rod1]

We'll never know because Dems killed it in the crib, their own bill that only pertained to employees pay.

Actually we do know, because Orange man refused to sign the bipartisan bill that sat on his desk because it lacked funding for a wall.

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics...ll-raising-odds-of-a-government-shutdown.html

 

[IGIT]

One of the "nay" votes was cast by none other than... drumroll please...

Rep. Nita M. Lowry D-NY.

Yup.

I'm still trying to figure this out.

hi Beaver Brownlee,

i'm trying to figure it out also.

what makes you think that Representative Lowey voted against her own bill? i mean - how did you come to that conclusion?

you go on at some length after you made that assertion, too. you sounded pretty outraged.

so i'm asking, where did you come by this information? could you link me something? thanks!

- IGIT

 

[glenwo2]

Dems are a fucking joke.

 

[method115]

This shutdown is pissing me off so bad. I don’t comment on politics very often. But I have to on this one.


This shutdown is affecting almost a million families because they are not getting paid. They have no or less income that is affecting their ability to pay rent/mortgage, bills, buy food and other necessities.

Meanwhile, these asshole millionaires are still getting paid!!!

And while they should not be getting paid during the shutdown, it would have little impact on them because they are millionaires to begin with. They have all their money, plus what they get from lobbyists and their investments and everything else that puts them on a level so far above the rest of us. So, yes, I agree that they should not get paid, but it would not affect them.


Because of trumps ego, and the hatred towards him from creatures like pelosi, the Shutdown will go on for probably another month. And trump lives to get in the record books and is probably grabbing pussy over the thought of having the longest shutdown is history. Hell, I bet he will bait pelosi and be obstinate on purpose just to keep this going as a show of his stubbornness just so he can say he stood up to the dems and did not cave and will get his wall. Maybe he and some of his billionaire friends could pay for his fucking wall if they want it so bad. The millions of dollars that come in every single day from special interest groups could be used to build the wall instead of padding their slimy pockets. And no matter if they build this wall, if you build it, they will come-anyway. The immigrants will find a way around, over, under; or get on boats and get into the country that way. Plus, it will mean little without more border guards, more marine patrols, drone squads-whatever they need to stop people getting into the country.

And they absolutely do not care that they are potentially destroying families and neither side will cave, so this will go on for weeks. They really don’t seem to care that fed workers can’t pay their bills. So fucking what, these assholes are making gestures of giving their pay to their staff. So fucking what! That does nothing To help the real workers and families that are being hurt by this shit show.

Besides not getting paid, everyone of these assholes should be forced to be in chambers every single day until the shutdown is over. They should have to be at work every day, weekends as well, sitting in a room and working this out. That is the quickest way to end this.
There are too many giant egos and vendettas to get this solved. Trump won’t budge on the wall, neither will pelosi, who sees the wall as an affront to her voters and ideals so This will go on and on and on.

Take the money you want for the wall and beef up border or fund police departments to be able to offer better wages to be able to attract decent candidates for police work. You say you are pro police, pass something like Clinton’s omnibus crime act bill which added 200 k officers in 1996

Finally, while you are pissing around use your damn emergency powers to pass a law that pays fed workers.

Do that ! They deserve to be paid. Lock these clowns in a room until they solve these issues.

And will this affect our tax returns??’
To sum it up. No pay for all entire fed employees includes fed government. But I say pass emergency law to pay fed employees so they can feed families and pay bills. And finally make them work every day if the week until they solve this issue. You have senators going on vacations while people are working and not getting paid. And we should not have to pay fed income tax until this is over. Don’t be surprised if this goes to sixty days.

They should be looking for new jobs. Why would anyone want to go back to work for the Government after dealing with this shit? We had a shutdown with Trump and a shutdown with Obama why deal with this shit anymore?

 

[Shoemaker]

Are they STILL legit, IGIT?

yep.

Legigit.

 

[glenwo2]

Legigit.

 

[Shoemaker]

If I had the time, I'd make Quebecmire say "Legiggity".

 

[PolishHeadlock]

 

[KILL KILL]

McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked legislation on Wednesday that would reopen most of the government currently closed during the partial shutdown.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) went to the Senate floor to ask for consent to take up the House-passed bill that would fund every agency and department impacted by the partial shutdown, except the Department of Homeland Security, through Sept. 30.

McConnell, however, objected. It's the fourth time he's blocked the bill to reopen most of government.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/426668-mcconnell-blocks-bill-to-reopen-most-of-government

Why won't McConnell allow it to be voted on?

 

[Rod1]

Dems are a fucking joke.

Yet Trump refused to sign anything that reaches his desk.

 

[grizzard2bid]

George W. Bush Calls for an End to Government Shutdown With a Secret Service Pizza Delivery

https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-w-bush-calls-end-170816080.html

Thanks for the bitter reminder we're still spending money protecting this bum and his family.