Things to consider; we can't look at numbers alone, and level of competition matters. Joanna has faced all the best wrestlers except Suarez, all the best strikers, and gone up a division to challenge the most skilled fighter in WMMA. We can't say that about Zhang, the best striker she's faced is Tecia Torres and Andrade didn't even try to wrestle her in their title fight. There's been a grand total of 3 takedowns attempted against Zhang in her entire UFC career.
As for the effectiveness of Zhang's takedowns, once again, we need to look at the bigger picture. When she went up against a good fighter with fairly sound technique (Tecia) she was only 2 for 8 on takedowns, and while she got a lot of clinch and ground control time she didn't get much damage done. Consider that Andrade was 10 for 12 on takedowns against Tecia along with landing far more clinch strikes, ground strikes, and guard passes and Zhang's takedowns & ground game doesn't look as impressive as her overall career numbers make them sound. I'd argue that both Suarez and Andrade have a better takedown and ground game than Zhang.
Same thing with striking. Folks are gushing about Zhang's KO power when the only UFC opponent she's knocked loopy is Andrade, and that's because Jessica ran face first into the punches in full Ronda Rousey style. She literally led with her face and charged right into a fist. I wrote more about that over here. If we look at her other fights she's not nearly as devastating on the feet, she never knocked down or wobbled her other opponents.
Now, am I saying that Zhang is a bad fighter? Absolutely not, she's pretty good in all areas but there's no area where she's actually elite. Her takedowns & grappling aren't as good as Suarez or Claudia in her prime, and her standup isn't at the same level as Joanna or Valentina. Put it another way. Think of Nunes or Shevchenko as the WMMA equivalents of GSP; a fighter who's the best in all areas. Zhang would be like a Jon Fitch in comparison, good to very good, but a level or 2 down from the best.
Personally, I think all 4 of the challengers can beat Zhang if they fight smart and stick to the game plan, with Joanna and Suarez having the best chance. I'd favour Joanna over Zhang and think Suarez is about 50/50. Rose is dependant on her mental state and how Zhang chooses to fight, if Zhang applies good pressure she has a good chance of winning, if she consents to a distance striking game she gets taken apart. Andrade has the worst chance of the 4, but if she fights the same way she did against Rose she might be able to take the fight deep and pile up enough damage later in the fight to win.
Fair enough, thanks for the detailed answer.
First of all: I don't consider Zhang unbeatable, nor do i see her as perfect, but i will say that she's very well rounded with her biggest strength being striking.
Regarding her takedowns and ground game: yea, makes 100% sense what you're saying, i have to say though that my knowledge of striking surpasses my knowledge of grappling by quite a margin, so i did not attempt to go too deep into the grappling department.
I did not say that Zhang is a better grappler than Andrade BTW! (does it seem that way?) i was for the biggest part watching their fights without regards to their level of competition, so yeah, that's definitely a factor as well.
Also agree about Joanna having faced and beat (almost) everyone and i agree with you saying Jedrzejczyk having the best chance. A lot of people on here say she's done and won't be important in regards to the title again (for whatever reason) but the fact is that she's lost two fights against a bad matchup with Rose and lost (despite putting up a solid fight) against Shevchenko.
As for the GSP to Fitch comparison: interesting comparison, but would you actually put Zhang two levels lower to the likes of Jedrzejczyk, etc.? Seems despite the obvious recency bias a bit too harsh in my eyes. I mean: You're right when saying that Andrade was actually very unintelligently in her approach against Zhang, but despite her measured approach in the Rose fight Jessica Andrade still eats a lot of punches, so it's not like she fought like a completely different fighter than usual (although it's true that her reckless behavior made it possible for Zhang to exploit it in the first place) and a TKO over Andrade at strawweight (where she's not been finished before) is still very impressive in my opinion.
The notion (from your other post) that Zhang would dominate Jedrzejczyk (who's actually really strong) in the clinch and take her down with ease is really without any substance though.. i mean, who's been able to not just take Joanna down but to keep her down? no one really. No matter how one dimensional she is, you have pretty much no other choice but to beat her on the feet. (one dimensional in the sense that she only wants to strike on the feet - her defensive wrestling is obviously elite).
The title picture at women's strawweight - assessing the champion and the four top contenders
1. Introduction
2. The fighters
2.1. Weili Zhang
2.2. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2.3. Tatiana Suarez
2.4. Rose Namajunas
2.5. Jessica Andrade
3. What do you think?
Spoiler: stat sheet (strawweight stats)
- Introduction -
With Weili Zhang beating Jessica Andrade and thus crowning herself the new queen at 115 pounds, Rose Namajunas wanting to come back and all four top contenders consisting only of former champions with the exception of the up and coming Tatiana Suarez, women's strawweight is more stacked than ever and makes for a title picture which is arguably second to none in terms of competitiveness.
In this post, i'll assess the abilities of the current champion at women's strawweight, Weili Zhang, as well as the skills of the four contenders Joanna Jedrzejczyk, Tatiana Suarez, Rose Namajunas and Jessica Andrade one after another.
- The fighters -
Weili Zhang, current champion
View attachment 676323 August 31, 2019: Weili Zhang becomes champion, finishing former champion Jessica Andrade inside the first round via TKO.
Rather unknown to the majority of fans before her fight with Jessica Andrade, the main question for many was how good is Weili Zhang actually and is she able to continue her winning-streak and mind-blowing finishing-percentage, taking the giant step up in competition against relentless brawler and then-champion Jessica Andrade. As it turned out, Zhang was not just able to beat the brazilian, but also to be the first person to finish her at strawweight, rocking her with a hard and perfectly accurate right hook to the jaw and landing vicious knees and elbows from the clinch on the wobbly-legged Andrade, TKOing her with a couple more strikes that dropped Andrade moving backwards and landing a few more on the ground, before the ref stepped in and stopped the fight 42 seconds into the first round.
Being a very active, striking-based figher, Zhang likes striking from further out, often using her lead leg to land kicks and gauge the distance, before she starts to string fluent combinations of powerful kicks and punches together to either land on the opponent in the first place or close the distance to catch her opponents in the clinch, in which she - despite not being very tall - is very dominant, which is not only attributed to her
technical ability, but also her astonishing physical strength. Both of which can be seen in her short but dominant display against fellow powerhouse Jessica Andrade, who usually is the stronger woman at strawweight by a considerable margin.
When comparing the amount of landed versus absorbed strikes, Weili Zhang is the most effective fighter out of the five mentioned, with a strike differential of 3.98, which is slightly higher than Jedrzejczyk's 3.9 and also absorbs the second least significant strikes per minute with 2.24, landing only behind Tatiana Suarez' 1.45, although it should be stated that fighters who dominate from the ground generally tend to absorb very few strikes, making the fact that Zhang is rather close to Suarez all the more impressive.
Albeit being already very good on the feet with a so far perfect takedown defense of 100%, Zhang's strengths are not just stand up fighting; in fact, out of the five fighters here she's arguably the most dominant ground and pound fighter after the aforementioned Tatiana Suarez.
Capable of taking her opponents down with numerous trips, takedowns and throws, Zhang is very dangerous on the ground, landing 26.2% of her total strikes on the ground, controlling her opponents while landing devastating blows, as it can be seen during her fight against Jessica Aguilar.
Despite arguably preferring to maul her opponents on the ground, she is able to submit opponents too, finishing the aforementioned Aguilar with an armbar and having 7 out of her 20 pro wins by the way of submission, which also makes her the fighter with the most submission wins on this list.
To sum it, Zhang - both technically and physically - really is an extremely gifted and well-rounded fighter, who, despite being mostly a stand-up figher is dangerous wherever the fight goes, with her only noteworthy weakness being sometimes a bit too reckless in boxing exchanges.
Joanna Jedrzejczyk landing a front kick in Valerie Létourneau's faceat UFC 193, November 14, 2015.
Coming off a recent win against Michelle Waterson after losing three title fights in a row, the former strawweight-champion Joanna Jedrzejczyk has once again reminded the world of mixed martial arts what she's been notorious for: Using her incredible striking proficiency to walk opponents down with an insane output, making use of a striking arsenal that involves all kinds of strikes, no matter if it's straight punches, front kicks or knees and elbows from the clinch, Joanna Jedrzejczyk is the blue-print for how to use muay thai in an MMA-fight, being able to do everything necessary to keep the fight where she's most comfortable and beat her opponents on the feet.
A master in striking, Jedrzejczyk is very proficient with almost every type of strike there is, be it her quick jab, which she's using greatly to measure and maintain distance, set up other strikes or to hurt and pressure opponents, her accurate low kicks which are very effective in decreasing her opponents agility, like in her fight against Valerie Létourneau, where she broke the UFC record for the most leg kicks landed, with an astonishing 70 significant strikes landed to Letourneau's legs, or the front kick, landing in her opponents midsections or faces on a regular basis.
The polish kickboxer is the very definition of a volume striker, as she's landing a whopping 6.53 strikes per minute, being only second to Jessica Andrade. However, Jedrzejczyk has by far the longest average fight time in her division, with an astounding 18 minutes and 29 seconds at strawweight and 18 minutes
and 59 seconds in all fights, which - being the second longest average fight time in UFC-history - is a testament to her phenomenal cardio and conditioning.
Examples for Joanna Jedrzejczyk outlanding her opponents by jaw-dropping amounts would be her fights against: Waterson, Andrade, Kowalkiewicz and Penne, where she managed to land three times as many strikes as her opponents on three occasions.
While volume is a huge part of what makes Jedrzejczyk so successfull, Jedrzejczyk always remains accurate with her strikes and pretty much never gets reckless or abandons her defense in order to land, thus having a strike differential of 3.9 at strawweight and 3.45 overall, making her the 5th best fighter in this regard to ever grace the UFC while also having a significant strike defense of 66% at strawweight - the highest on this list.
Footwork is another key in Jedrzejczyk's defense, as she's constantly moving; after throwing combinations, she likes to immediately step or pivot to the side, forcing her opponents to readjust and landing counters from these positions as well. Another thing which makes her hard to hit for someone with that output is
her excellent use of linear strikes to keep the fight at distance and her opponents away from getting into boxing range, which can be seen in her fight against Jessica Andrade, where she constantly moved away from a charging Andrade, picking her apart from range.
In general, she doesn't throw a lot of flashy stuff and keeps her game rather basic for the most part, making use of her all around great muay thai striking from the distance or the clinch, but also trying to back up her opponents against the cage to make them stationary targets.
Having talked about her extremely dominant stand-up, it has to be mentioned that none of the above mentioned things would be possible, if it wasn't for her takedown defense, which is at 83% at strawweight; be it by sprawling in the middle of the cage or against the fence, the pole is pretty strong and extremely hard to take down and if taken down usually wastes no time to get back on the feet, as it can be seen in her fights against Andrade and Gadelha.
A one-dimensional fighter in the best way possible, it generally takes very proficient counter striking and evasiveness to threaten her, as her ability to keep the fight where she excels at is almost second to none.
Tatiana Suarez, ranked #3
View attachment 676327 Tatiana Suarez landing heavy strikes on a helpless Carla Esparza. UFC 228, September 8, 2018.
With five wins in the UFC of which her latest two came against Nina Ansaroff and former strawweight-champion Carla Esparza who Suarez finished by ground and pound, the physically imposing two-time freestyle wrestling world championship bronze medalist can't help but to see herself continuously being compared to the undefeated lightweight-champion Khabib Nurmagomedov, as she - similar to the aforementioned dagestani - constantly and successfully takes her opponents down, pinning them to the ground, controlling and smothering them, throwing punches and elbows.
As one would expect it from someone with the wrestling credentials of the 28 year old, Tatiana Suarez times her takedowns fantastically, leading to both an average of 6.47 takedowns per 15 minutes but also to a takedown accuracy of 62.9%, which makes her the 7th most accurate takedown-artist amongst active UFC-fighters and only for comparison: the aforementioned Khabib Nurmagomedov lands 5.35 takedowns on average per 15 minutes, while having a takedown accuracy of 47%, making the stats of Tatiana Suarez all the more impressive.
Being such a great fighter taking it to and keeping it on the ground, the objective for the "female Khabib" is nothing else but to do exactly that and on the feet she's keen to take every chance she gets to do so, but most of the times without being convulsive and trying to grab a leg or a foot every five seconds, as she is very measured in that regard.
When her opponent is taken down, Suarez is very strong, has great top control over the opponent and deals a lot of damage with heavy elbows and punches raining down from above.
Being a jiu-jitsu brown belt, she successfully goes for submissions as well, resulting in two of her five victories in the UFC coming by submission; a rear-naked choke against Alexa Grasso and a brabo choke against Amanda Cooper.
Standing with her opponents, Tatiana Suarez employs a southpaw-stance, leading with her right foot and moving a lot, throwing a lot of strikes with her lead leg from further range, mostly consisting of leg kicks to the opponents outside lead leg, but also lead hook kicks to the body, many of which can be seen in her fight against Nina Ansaroff.
In terms of boxing, Suarez keeps it more basic and mainly throws straights.
Generally speaking, her striking is not necessarily based on landing big hits, but more so to force opponents to start throwing strikes, so that she can change levels and take them down and also on outlanding opponents while staying in a rather safe distance, thus the bespoken kicks with the lead leg but kicking her opponents legs repeatedly also makes sense in terms of reducing their mobility, making it easier for her to shoot for her feared takedowns.
Tatiana Suarez does an excellent job at using her great wrestling to win fights and despite being hittable at exchanges in closer ranges, generally has a very smart and effective approach to striking as well, making her a very serious contender in this division.
Rose Namajunas, ranked #2
View attachment 676329 UFC 223: Rose Namajunas landing a right hand on Joanna Jedrzejczyk, contributing to her first title defense on April 07, 2018.
Having lost the strawweight belt to Jessica Andrade back in may this year, Rose Namajunas three fight win-streak came to an abrupt end. Beating the most dominant champion at women's strawweight to date, Joanna Jedrzejczyk, she's been the first fighter to beat and finish the striking specialist in mixed martial arts though and remains the only fighter to do so at strawweight, beating Jedrzejczyk back to back. Coming from a taekwondo and karate background, the 27 year old Namajunas evolved from a somewhat wild fighter who liked to throw flashy kicks and regularly went for submissions from very difficult positions, to one of the most cerebral fighters in today's MMA and arguably the best boxer at women's strawweight - on top of having a fantastic submission-grappling skill set.
Starting off with her stand-up, she's very technical and fluent with her kicking, as it can be seen in her fight against Michelle Waterson, where she dropped the retreating "Karate Hottie" with a perfectly timed rear high kick to the head, but Rose Namajunas' biggest strength is boxing.
Working with Trevor Wittman, Rose Namajunas became extremely formidable at boxing, making use of great footwork and head movement to slip punches and get good angles to hit her opponents from.
The best examples of this are her three last fights, where she finished then champion Joanna Jedrzejczyk after dropping her with a perfectly placed left hook in the first fight, winning a competitive but unanimous decision in the rematch, where despite landing more strikes, Jedrzejczyk had difficulties hitting the agile and evasive Rose clean, while Rose on the other hand did more damage with fewer strikes, landing the better blows out of the two and last but not least: her most recent bout, in which she lost against Jessica Andrade.
Getting finished in the second round with a slam, Namajunas was piecing up Jessica Andrade on the feet, constantly moving in and out; hitting her with superbly timed punches, especially with her jab and cross, leading to a cut above Andrade's left eye.
When engaging in exchanges with Andrade from closer ranges, Rose did fantastic at slipping Jessica Andrade's punches while landing crisp counters.
Talking about Rose' defense, Andrade often exploded into forward-movement throwing her typical lunging blows, only for Namajunas to slip the punches and reset herself or move back- and sidewards, denying Andrade the opportunity to move into punching range.
Striking and especially boxing isn't her only strength though; in fact Rose Namajunas' brazilian jiu-jitsu and slick submission skills earned her half of her wins inside the UFC, as when being on the ground, Namajunas transitions very well between positions and works her way towards whatever submission presents the best opportunity to finish the fight with and despite the danger of ground and pound in MMA, isn't shy working from her back either.
Finishing Michelle Waterson, Paige VanZant and Angela Hill by rear-naked choke inside the UFC and having a win by a spectacular flying armbar during her days at Invicta, she's as mentioned a very skillfull submission artist and while her defensive wrestling isn't exactly the best in her division, as for example in her fight against Carl Esparza, where she's been taken down five times - albeit she's most likely improved since then - she's quite successful at getting her opponents to the ground, mostly using trips both away from and at the fence.
With potential that was always visible, Rose Namajunas was better each time she stepped into the cage, having evolved into an intelligent fighter who's not only a very talented submission-artist, but - despite being susceptible to leg kicks at times - also one of the best strikers in her division, having fantastic footwork and boxing that's probably second to none at women's strawweight.
Losing her last fight and with it the strawweight-title, juggernaut and former champion Jessica Andrade nevertheless is one of, if not the scariest fighter at women's strawweight. Heaps of power, unrelenting pressure, durability and insane physical strength make her an extremely dangerous opponent for everyone and with four of her seven victories at strawweight coming by finish, it's her knockouts of Karolina Kowalkiewicz and fellow ex-champion Rose Namajunas that stand out the most and symbolize how she's able to tear down just about anyone who isn't capable to deal with the force she presents.
Being a brawler, Jessica Andrade is known for her willingness to participate in ruthless exchanges, her power and output.
At strawweight, Andrade lands an astounding 7.22 significant strikes per minute, making her sit at the top of the list in this regard.
With the ability to generate and more importantly sustain her fast pace, Andrade likes to overwhelm opponents, charging at them in a straight line, throwing powerful winging hooks, making them very effective once they land.
Unlike most volume punchers though, Andrade hits very hard and is like mentioned above capable of one-punch knockouts, as she proved against Kowalkiewicz.
Dangerous but also predictable in her striking, Jessica Andrade is willing to eat a few punches to land some, which in numbers means, that she absorbs 6.15 significant strikes per minute on average, which is a lot and by far the most out of anyone on this list.
Being susceptible to counters due to her fighting-style, it's worth noting though, that Andrade is extremely durable and has a very good chin, making precise, crisp striking and a good striking defense mandatory to stop her in her tracks without getting hit while countering her.
Walking her opponents down for the entirety of the fight, Andrade tries to get her opponents against the fence, where they're more stationary and Andrade's not exactly long reach of 62"/157 cm isn't a downside, to unload on them with a barrage of powerful blows and despite Andrade not being the most technical striker, she's great at mixing up high-low combinations, throwing a couple of strikes to the head to open up the body and vice-versa.
A good example of this is her fight against Jessica Penne, where Andrade finished Penne by TKO.
With her opponents against the fence, Andrade also goes for the clinch regularly, where albeit being quite short, she's really strong and dominant, hitting her opponents with knees and her trademark hooks and uppercuts, as it can be seen in her fight against Angela Hill, where nearly 45% of the 131 strikes Andrade landed, where from the clinch.
Jessica Andrade likes to "stand and bang", but when having her opponents against the fence and not going
for the fast finish on the feet, she's very good at getting opponents to the ground, which she does a lot by picking her opponents up and slamming them to the ground with great technique and lots of strength, as she did several times in her bout against Claudia Gadelha but also most recently against Rose Namajunas.
Putting her opponents to the ground or in the case of Namajunas even finishing them with these throws, Andrade does very good at not getting caught in her opponents guard right after and uses good top control along with heavy ground strikes to inflict damage, see the Gadelha-fight here as well.
Primarily a "mauler" on the ground, Andrade certainly submits opponents too if the opportunity arises, having two wins by submission via guillotine-choke inside the UFC, but since moving down to strawweight, she's also more capable of defending submission attempts, defending both attempts from Claudia Gadelha in their fight.
Same goes for her takedown defense, being only taken down twice in her nine fights at
women's strawweight.
Walking forward nonstop with unyielding pressure and power that is rarely seen in women's MMA, Jessica Andrade means business and has proven to be a big threat for anyone stepping into the octagon with her.
- What do you think? -
With Weili Zhang recently having claimed the throne at women's strawweight out of nowhere, Joanna Jedrzejczyk looking as sharp as ever recently, Rose Namajunas having announced her comeback, Tatiana Suarez emerging as a serious contender at a rapid rate and former champion Jessica Andrade being
finished for the first time in her career at strawweight, how do you think the future of the divison will play out? Who do you think might be a bad match up for Zhang and will she be able to defend her title or will there be a new queen at women's strawweight soon?
- Stats for Zhang, Jedrzejczyk, Suarez, Namajunas and Andrade at strawweight -
Weili Zhang, 4-0 UFC, 20-1 pro MMA
Wins by decision: 2
Wins by KO/TKO: 1
Wins by submission: 1
Losses by decision: 0
Losses by KO/TKO: 0
Losses by submission: 0
A lot of people disparage WMMA, but the breakdown was worth the read and these fighters are worth watching.... Any combination of these produce a bloodbath.
A lot of people disparage WMMA, but the breakdown was worth the read and these fighters are worth watching.... Any combination of these produce a bloodbath.
With Weili Zhang beating Jessica Andrade and thus crowning herself the new queen at 115 pounds, Rose Namajunas wanting to come back and all four top contenders consisting only of former champions with the exception of the up and coming Tatiana Suarez, women's strawweight is more stacked than ever and makes for a title picture which is arguably second to none in terms of competitiveness.
The strawweight class of WMMA has long been my favorite, ever since I first began watching the early Invicta FC events. I was excited when the UFC added the strawweight division, and my first post ever on Sherdog was to join in on Arkain2K's TUF 20 (strawweights) fantasy league.
I always thought that the strawweight division was the sharktank of women's MMA, and never has it been more so than today.
Thanks for making your excellent thread-opening post, which in turn has brought together a lot of people to comment in the thread who are well-informed about these fighters. Part of what intrigues me about these potential match-ups is that I don't know how they will play out, but I'm extremely curious about it.
As a fan, I expect to feel torn with respect to who to be rooting for. I think I may have been the first big fan of Joanna Jedrzejczyk in the UFC forum here (and the first to use a Joanna avatar here), because I became a fan of hers after watching her Cage Warriors fight at flyweight in which she knocked out Rosi Sexton. When it was revealed that she was dropping to strawweight to fight in the UFC, I began heavily hyping her on this forum as one to watch. It wasn't until her first title fight with Rose Namajunas that I ever rooted against her. And when Rose started taking so much time off, my focus switched to Zhang Weili, who I also hyped heavily on this forum as one to watch, and whose avatar I'm sporting today. I'm sure I'll have very mixed emotions when Weili and Rose fight, but what a great fight that has the potential for being!
The strawweight class of WMMA has long been my favorite, ever since I first began watching the early Invicta FC events. I was excited when the UFC added the strawweight division, and my first post ever on Sherdog was to join in on Arkain2K's TUF 20 (strawweights) fantasy league.
I always thought that the strawweight division was the sharktank of women's MMA, and never has it been more so than today.
Thanks for making your excellent thread-opening post, which in turn has brought together a lot of people to comment in the thread who are well-informed about these fighters. Part of what intrigues me about these potential match-ups is that I don't know how they will play out, but I'm extremely curious about it.
As a fan, I expect to feel torn with respect to who to be rooting for. I think I may have been the first big fan of Joanna Jedrzejczyk in the UFC forum here (and the first to use a Joanna avatar here), because I became a fan of hers after watching her Cage Warriors fight at flyweight in which she knocked out Rosi Sexton. When it was revealed that she was dropping to strawweight to fight in the UFC, I began heavily hyping her on this forum as one to watch. It wasn't until her first title fight with Rose Namajunas that I ever rooted against her. And when Rose started taking so much time off, my focus switched to Zhang Weili, who I also hyped heavily on this forum as one to watch, and whose avatar I'm sporting today. I'm sure I'll have very mixed emotions when Weili and Rose fight, but what a great fight that has the potential for being!
Thank you for the kind words!
It's my favourite class as well and you're absolutely right when saying it's the shartank of women's MMA.
Yeah, with so many interesting (and exciting) fighters i know you're struggle in regards to who to root for, i think Joanna Jedrzejczyk was the first female fighter i was really interested in and when she got beat by Rose at UFC 217, Rose gave that octagon interview with her saying all these things about bullying and so on, which impressed me and made me (together with everything else i've seen from her after looking her up more) a fan of her as well.
When UFC 223 came along and those two fought each other again i really did not know who to root for as well.
As for the potential match ups: i feel the same - these fighters are so different from one another with their abilities, strategies etc. that it'll be really interesting to see how things play out.
Great post, incredibly informative and insightful. I see Zhang holding onto the belt for a bit.
Also, I can't help but laugh at the guys who came into a thread about WMMA to shame someone for being interested in WMMA. For guys who don't care about a given subject, they spend an inordinate amount of their time bashing it.
Great post, incredibly informative and insightful. I see Zhang holding onto the belt for a bit.
Also, I can't help but laugh at the guys who came into a thread about WMMA to shame someone for being interested in WMMA. For guys who don't care about a given subject, they spend an inordinate amount of their time bashing it.
Great post, incredibly informative and insightful. I see Zhang holding onto the belt for a bit.
Also, I can't help but laugh at the guys who came into a thread about WMMA to shame someone for being interested in WMMA. For guys who don't care about a given subject, they spend an inordinate amount of their time bashing it.
Thanks a lot.
I find it really hard to say who (definitely) beats who here, so i'm not making any definite predictions, hehe - but as said earlier in this post, Joanna Jedrzejczyk is a very serious challenge for Zhang (and vice versa), as Joanna has dealt with explosive/powerful fighters before and is very good at staying just outside the danger-zone, picking opponents apart (as she did with Andrade).
But yeah, very interesting to see how a fight between them will play out (i assume they will be fighting each other in the very near future).
Oh, and regarding the guys who bash WMMA/me for being interested in it: i don't care too much about it and quite frankly have expected more answers along the lines of "meh, no one cares about WMMA", so i'ts all good i guess plus here's a lot of people with quite thoughtful and interesting comments as well, so if some people trolling a bit are the price then i'm willing to pay it.
I mean provoking people who're provoking you is pretty much always exactly what they want, so it's better to not worry about it and stay cool and while it's in most cases probably unlikely, it's easier to convince people (in this case that women's MMA is actually worth watching) when you're not being a gobsh*te back, although there's people who deserve it.
What's on here is pretty harmless to some other posts i've seen on sherdog though.
Rose just got knocked out in her first real title defense. She doesn’t belong anywhere in the title conversation until she beats a top five fighter not named Joanna. Something she’s never done in her career.
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