Television The Star Trek Thread V6.0

[JDragon]

The Memory Alpha article also clearly states that the author of the episode hated b-plots and the Sulu story was inserted late against his will.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

The Memory Alpha article also clearly states that the author of the episode hated b-plots and the Sulu story was inserted late against his will.

Makes sense. It's given little attention.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

TOS ep "Mudd's Women".

Weird that these are the least attractive actresses in the series, and they're specifically cast to be irresistibly beautiful.

 

[sverre054]

Memory Alpha:

The transporter was depicted as the only mode of transport between a planet and the ship because this episode was written and filmed before the existence of the hangar deck and shuttlecraft were established, even though both of these locations are clearly built into the studio model of the Enterprise as seen in the episode. As the lack of a shuttlecraft was almost immediately pointed out as a plot error, production and writing staff later stated that perhaps the shuttlebay was simply out of service for repairs during this episode, which would explain why the crew did not use shuttles to rescue their comrades

Just think we got the whole premise of Transporter technology because they couldn't afford to build a shuttlecraft set and model. They also quickly ignored there special boxes that put transported crew members with there invisible shield and oxygen. Then we got M-class planets.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I've looked into Babylon 5 and yeah It looks bad

Looks like it takes a lot of effort to get into

Tons of quality issues with the effects

Different cuts of the pilot you need to track down

There is quite a significant shift from the pilot to the first season and then another from the first to the second season in terms of writing/FX/etc improving.

Honestly though you probably could skip a lot of the season 1 episodes not written by Straczynski if you wanted to get though it faster, you'd miss a bit of character building but not much in core plotting.

 

[JDragon]

I am actually glad to hear I am the only one who wants to get into B5 but never could. I mean the premise sounds like I'd really dig it. Just never even made it through the pilot somehow.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I am actually glad to hear I am the only one who wants to get into B5 but never could. I mean the premise sounds like I'd really dig it. Just never even made it through the pilot somehow.

Again I think that's a bit harsh, I'd agree even as a big fan of B5 the pilot isn't that good but the shift from that even to the opening episode first season is quite significant and the shift from the second season onwards also very significant.

 

[I'm Shawn Spencer]

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I am actually glad to hear I am the only one who wants to get into B5 but never could. I mean the premise sounds like I'd really dig it. Just never even made it through the pilot somehow.

I've been curious but haven't really dug into general opinions.

 

[Clippy]

Never tried it either buds

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

TOS ep "The Return of the Archons"

It is the will of Landru.

Ridiculous plot wherein a society on a Paramount studio lot marks a regular "Red Hour", which is a "Festival" of rape and destruction. Women are carried off, but one consensual encounter is thrown in.

This is supposedly something the automaton citizens do a lot of, setting fires and attacking each other.

Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu, and some extras fuck around on a planet, eventually delivering the retarded society from Landru's control. One of those "Everything is run by a machine and we have to wreck it" stories.
Kirk laughably uses a rhetorical trap to make the machine go crazy. They actually foley in *zoop, boing!* Batman-style sound effects.

You are not of the Body.

 

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TOS episode "This Side of Paradise"

Kirk and the Gang get sprayed in the face with flower spores. The spores are like ecstasy.
McCoy adopts the most over-the-top, ridiculous Georgia accent anybody has ever faked.

Spock falls in love with a hottie.

For some reason Kirk is immune to the spores. Later they start to work on him, but then he discovers that punching himself in the junk counteracts the molly-flowers.

To fix up Spock, Kirk goads him into a fight, and Spock gets tricked into punching himself in the junk.
Then Spock stops being a goofball and doesn't want to fuck the hot girl anymore.

The hot girl pleads with Spock to stay, and the actress is actually pretty moving.
McCoy drops a dude with a straight right to the gut, while holding a drink in his left like a boss.

 

[sverre054]

Picked up a box of my old things from my folks, and found my beloved NcC 1701 A telephone. Remember those things thing with cords. Still works, the ring is the ships red alert klaxon, and the nucels light up red.

 

[sverre054]

Picked up a box of my old things from my folks, and found my beloved NcC 1701 A telephone. Remember those things thing with cords. Still works, the ring is the ships red alert klaxon, and the nucels light up red.

I thought for sure as a kid, this thing would be like a priceless heirloom, and be worth thousands.

Nope. Selling for $30 on ebay. Another childhood dream crushed

 

[JDragon]

https://www.theguardian.com/culture...ot-that-boldly-goes-where-nobody-wanted-it-to

 

[deviake]

https://www.theguardian.com/culture...ot-that-boldly-goes-where-nobody-wanted-it-to

Spoiler

The showrunner Michael Chabon, responding to questions via his Instagram page, defended Picard against the latter claim by saying that “shadow defines light”, that “if nothing can rock the Federation’s perfection, then it’s just a magical land”. It is a sentiment that has been echoed in the past by Alex Kurtzman, the showrunner of the other ongoing series set in the same universe, Star Trek: Discovery. He justified its equally violent, profane and dark sensibility by maintaining that modern Star Trek is simply a reflection of its time.

Star Trek was never a reflection of its time. The entire premise of it was that we've moved far beyond our current problems. It would touch on themes that resonant with us today, but it was always beyond where we're at.

"In the 90s, the darker spin-off show Deep Space Nine pre-empted Picard’s themes by 27 years, asking what happens when the principles of the Federation are compromised by war. The difference was that Deep Space Nine, much like the best of Star Trek, managed to balance its meatier themes of PTSD, faith and wartime atrocities with episodes where everyone got dressed up to visit a holographic version of 60s Las Vegas.

It is this, more than anything else, that is fundamentally lacking from modern Star Trek: a sense of tonal texture, a spirit of curiosity about different worlds and cultures, and the crackling chemistry of a warm and interesting crew."



Nail on the head for me. Also, fuck I'm old

 

[Communion]

Edgemadams and beta-males is not the formula for good ST

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

I have finally reached the start of Season 4 of Enterprise

I finished the first 2 episodes, the "Cold Front" storyline and I thought it was average. I thought Silik was an awesome character but was never ever used to his full potential.

So after Season 1 ended I had pretty high hopes for the series however things started to head down hill quickly

Most of the main characters don't even get anything to do in this show. The biggest and most troubling is my man Travis Mayweather. Travis almost never does shit post-season 1. There are episodes where this guy has no lines whatsoever.

Other characters like Hoshi, Reed, and Phlox are only treated slightly better. Pretty much the only characters onboard the enterprise that matter are Archer, Trip, and Tpol.

Enterprise does have lots of good side characters tho, my man Degra and my man Shran are badasses.

The Temporal Cold War shit never got better and In fact, it gets worse. It's like every time the Enterprise is in a bad position they go into Daniels room and grab some Deus Ex Machina device that allows them to continue the storyline. its hamfisted garbage to say the least.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Spoiler

The showrunner Michael Chabon, responding to questions via his Instagram page, defended Picard against the latter claim by saying that “shadow defines light”, that “if nothing can rock the Federation’s perfection, then it’s just a magical land”. It is a sentiment that has been echoed in the past by Alex Kurtzman, the showrunner of the other ongoing series set in the same universe, Star Trek: Discovery. He justified its equally violent, profane and dark sensibility by maintaining that modern Star Trek is simply a reflection of its time.

Star Trek was never a reflection of its time. The entire premise of it was that we've moved far beyond our current problems. It would touch on themes that resonant with us today, but it was always beyond where we're at.

"In the 90s, the darker spin-off show Deep Space Nine pre-empted Picard’s themes by 27 years, asking what happens when the principles of the Federation are compromised by war. The difference was that Deep Space Nine, much like the best of Star Trek, managed to balance its meatier themes of PTSD, faith and wartime atrocities with episodes where everyone got dressed up to visit a holographic version of 60s Las Vegas.

It is this, more than anything else, that is fundamentally lacking from modern Star Trek: a sense of tonal texture, a spirit of curiosity about different worlds and cultures, and the crackling chemistry of a warm and interesting crew."



Nail on the head for me. Also, fuck I'm old

Archer does some pretty messed up shit during the Xindi war

He pretty much throws all his values away

He robs and kills and doesn't really give a fuck

Archer justifies his actions by saying he is doing it for Earth and nobody ever really challenges him.

Failure on all levels in my opinion

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

The episode where Trip gets hurt and they make a clone

Archer tells the clone to his face that he will kill him in order to save Trip

Woah bro, come on Archer. This shit could have been handled in a better way