Television The Star Trek Thread V6.0

Communion said:
My favorite thing RLM does is the Plinkett reviews. Nerd Crew is great too. Can't really put my finger on what makes RLM so fun to watch.
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I got into it when I saw the Plinkett ST movie reviews way back.

ST is dear to my heart; Mike and Rich both agree with me about what makes it great.

The fact that their content makes me laugh factors heavily
 
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. I'm almost through season 2 and so far it's been pretty good, but I've been noticing a lack of consequences to actions that kind of pulls me out at the end of a lot of episodes.

For instance, there was that episode where Quark conspires to allow a group of armed terrorists onto DS9 so they can steal Dax's worm. True, he might not have known what they're actual plan was, but that should be irrelevant. There is no way Quark shouldn't have been immediately placed in jail at the end of the episode or at least tossed off the ship. But instead absolutely nothing happens to him and it's never touched on again.

Or the episode where Chief and Bashir are almost murdered by the two leaders of once warring races and the same leaders fire on a Federation ship, which is an act of war (Sisko even says this), but once the DS9 crew escapes it isn't mentioned again. This was an act of war! You'd think it would have been a huge deal that would have been at least mentioned again, but nope.

I realize it's probably just the pitfalls of an episodic series, but some of the stories end up feeling incomplete to me because of it.
 
Plain Brown Pants said:
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. I'm almost through season 2 and so far it's been pretty good, but I've been noticing a lack of consequences to actions that kind of pulls me out at the end of a lot of episodes.

For instance, there was that episode where Quark conspires to allow a group of armed terrorists onto DS9 so they can steal Dax's worm. True, he might not have known what they're actual plan was, but that should be irrelevant. There is no way Quark shouldn't have been immediately placed in jail at the end of the episode or at least tossed off the ship. But instead absolutely nothing happens to him and it's never touched on again.

Or the episode where Chief and Bashir are almost murdered by the two leaders of once warring races and the same leaders fire on a Federation ship, which is an act of war (Sisko even says this), but once the DS9 crew escapes it isn't mentioned again. This was an act of war! You'd think it would have been a huge deal that would have been at least mentioned again, but nope.

I realize it's probably just the pitfalls of an episodic series, but some of the stories end up feeling incomplete to me because of it.
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If you like the first two seasons, you're really going to like the final few seasons. The show gets better with each season.
DS9 tried to be more "shades of gray" rather than "black and white" on the concepts of right and wrong. They kind of perfected that formula in the later seasons.
 
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Plain Brown Pants said:
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. I'm almost through season 2 and so far it's been pretty good, but I've been noticing a lack of consequences to actions that kind of pulls me out at the end of a lot of episodes.

For instance, there was that episode where Quark conspires to allow a group of armed terrorists onto DS9 so they can steal Dax's worm. True, he might not have known what they're actual plan was, but that should be irrelevant. There is no way Quark shouldn't have been immediately placed in jail at the end of the episode or at least tossed off the ship. But instead absolutely nothing happens to him and it's never touched on again.

Or the episode where Chief and Bashir are almost murdered by the two leaders of once warring races and the same leaders fire on a Federation ship, which is an act of war (Sisko even says this), but once the DS9 crew escapes it isn't mentioned again. This was an act of war! You'd think it would have been a huge deal that would have been at least mentioned again, but nope.

I realize it's probably just the pitfalls of an episodic series, but some of the stories end up feeling incomplete to me because of it.
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I like most Star Trek and I could never get into DS9

Maybe that makes me a piece of shit.
 
Plain Brown Pants said:
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. I'm almost through season 2 and so far it's been pretty good, but I've been noticing a lack of consequences to actions that kind of pulls me out at the end of a lot of episodes.

For instance, there was that episode where Quark conspires to allow a group of armed terrorists onto DS9 so they can steal Dax's worm. True, he might not have known what they're actual plan was, but that should be irrelevant. There is no way Quark shouldn't have been immediately placed in jail at the end of the episode or at least tossed off the ship. But instead absolutely nothing happens to him and it's never touched on again.

Or the episode where Chief and Bashir are almost murdered by the two leaders of once warring races and the same leaders fire on a Federation ship, which is an act of war (Sisko even says this), but once the DS9 crew escapes it isn't mentioned again. This was an act of war! You'd think it would have been a huge deal that would have been at least mentioned again, but nope.

I realize it's probably just the pitfalls of an episodic series, but some of the stories end up feeling incomplete to me because of it.
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Season 3-7 the dominion war arc, is some of the best television ever. Enjoy.
 
OverCoronavirus Pressure said:
Voyager episode "Night"

Voyager is crossing a dark nebula expanse that will take two years' travel.
From inside the nebula, nothing can be seen, all is darkness and ever'body is getting squirrelly.
Janeway has isolated herself from the crew; she's doing the Tortured-Soul, "I stranded us in the Delta Quadrant" bit, which by season 5 has grown tiresome.
The episode never makes it clear why she's "picked a bad time" to do so. It doesn't serve the script in any real way.

Tom and B'elana have a fight. Also tiresome.

Inside the nebula, there's a race of indigenous sentient beings. They're being slowly killed by radiation from a cargo vessel that's dumping waste in the nebula.

Janeway and crew eventually help the good aliens by defeating the bad ones.

As the third act draws to a conclusion, Voyager emerges from the dark nebula into a region of space that is full of stars and planetary systems. The reaction shots of the bridge crew as they see all this is stirring. Easy to imagine yourself in their place and how you might react.
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I always thought that they copied some elements from that episode to another episode called
'The Void' Which I liked more. Voyager was pulled into a void and had to work together and share their resources with other crews to escape it. This void alos had a indiginous species that helped them.
 
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Joe_Armstrong said:
I always thought that they copied some elements from that episode to another episode called
'The Void' Which I liked more. Voyager was pulled into a void and had to work together and share their resources with other cres to escape it. This void alos had a indiginous species that helped them.
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I've gotten them confused before. Both are good episodes but I agree, The Void is the smarter of the two, more Star Trek-y in execution.
 
Joe_Armstrong said:
I always thought that they copied some elements from that episode to another episode called
'The Void' Which I liked more. Voyager was pulled into a void and had to work together and share their resources with other crews to escape it. This void alos had a indiginous species that helped them.
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You're combining the episodes

"The Void" has no indigenous species.

"Night" is the one with the Voyager find the alien species and need to save them from radiation

The night aliens live in a region called "The Void" but it has no relation with the episode "The Void"
 
Plain Brown Pants said:
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. I'm almost through season 2 and so far it's been pretty good, but I've been noticing a lack of consequences to actions that kind of pulls me out at the end of a lot of episodes.

For instance, there was that episode where Quark conspires to allow a group of armed terrorists onto DS9 so they can steal Dax's worm. True, he might not have known what they're actual plan was, but that should be irrelevant. There is no way Quark shouldn't have been immediately placed in jail at the end of the episode or at least tossed off the ship. But instead absolutely nothing happens to him and it's never touched on again.

Or the episode where Chief and Bashir are almost murdered by the two leaders of once warring races and the same leaders fire on a Federation ship, which is an act of war (Sisko even says this), but once the DS9 crew escapes it isn't mentioned again. This was an act of war! You'd think it would have been a huge deal that would have been at least mentioned again, but nope.

I realize it's probably just the pitfalls of an episodic series, but some of the stories end up feeling incomplete to me because of it.
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A lack of consequence is something that certainly starts to shift a good deal from the 3rd season onwards.
 
Plain Brown Pants said:
I missed DS9 when it first aired back in the day, but I've had some free time lately and decided to give it a watch on Netflix. .
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Came to say this. I started Enterprise after I finished SG Atlantis, and after 2.5 seasons of that I remembered how much I liked SG9 and started it last night. I have no real memories of the show, just that I liked it.
 
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Have you guys had any friends or family suddenly start watching Star Trek during the quarantine? I have 3 friends who have started to binge-watch trek, after only seeing either a movie or random episode on TV over the years. 2 of them Started off with TNG(one of them started after watching Picard), and the other started with Enterprise. Its been pretty fun, talking with them every day, and having them excited about Star Trek. The girl who started with Enterprise loves it. She found it by searching for Scott Bakula, because she's a big fan of NCIS.

Also I picked up the complete box set of Voyager on DVD, all seven seasons for $20. I work In the middle of nowhere in Alaska may-oct, and have 2 MB speed internet, so no streaming. VOY is my least favorite trek series, but there are enough good episodes to warrant another rewatch
 
Cyrano200 said:
Came to say this. I started Enterprise after I finished SG Atlantis, and after 2.5 seasons of that I remembered how much I liked SG9 and started it last night. I have no real memories of the show, just that I liked it.
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I always mixed up Stargate Atlantis with Sea Quest. I just searched to see if Sea Quest was available to stream, and no luck. I do have SG queued up.

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sverre054 said:
Have you guys had any friends or family suddenly start watching Star Trek during the quarantine? I have 3 friends who have started to binge-watch trek, after only seeing either a movie or random episode on TV over the years. 2 of them Started off with TNG(one of them started after watching Picard), and the other started with Enterprise. Its been pretty fun, talking with them every day, and having them excited about Star Trek. The girl who started with Enterprise loves it. She found it by searching for Scott Bakula, because she's a big fan of NCIS.

Also I picked up the complete box set of Voyager on DVD, all seven seasons for $20. I work In the middle of nowhere in Alaska may-oct, and have 2 MB speed internet, so no streaming. VOY is my least favorite trek series, but there are enough good episodes to warrant another rewatch
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I've tried to get my brother into it with no luck

I read recently that the same people who directed the DS9 documentary are doing a Voyager 25th anniversary documentary.

Plus the Delta Flyer podcast with Harry and Tom

Its a prime time to give Voyager a rewatch
 
Voyager would be improved by having some kind of list of episodes worth watching or needed to watch for plot, I don't think it was ever that it was lacking in good episodes so much as it had so many mediocre ones. It never really got hold of low key episodes the way TNG and DS9 did IMHO due to a lack of interesting characters.

You cut say a third of the lesser episodes out and it would probably be a much better viewing experience.
 
moreorless87 said:
Voyager would be improved by having some kind of list of episodes worth watching or needed to watch for plot, I don't think it was ever that it was lacking in good episodes so much as it had so many mediocre ones. It never really got hold of low key episodes the way TNG and DS9 did IMHO due to a lack of interesting characters.

You cut say a third of the lesser episodes out and it would probably be a much better viewing experience.
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Voyager didn't get started until they made it to borg space in my opinion
 
Clippy said:
Voyager didn't get started until they made it to borg space in my opinion
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I would say it started to pickup in the 3rd season before that but yeah that was definitely a significant improvement as was Seven actually adding some character/conflict beyond the cat suit.
 
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