The singularity. Is it here?

[Wetarmpits]

You're not wrong. I think it's 3. Might be 4. That's 100% more than I made about anything else.

It's just that I find it absolutely fascinating, life long I've read sci-fi about this stuff and now I'm living in it.

And I'm uncertain about what happens. I think we integrate the tech into ourselves, but I also think countries and empires will impload. We might have less than a 1% survival rate, maybe a vanishingly small one, but I'm team vanishingly small survival rate and if there's ever a way through it will be because we think about it.

While chewing OR walking OR shitting.

I got you.

 

[jeff7b9]

It would not shock me if at some point AI commandeered either financial or communications data in such a way as to exert control over politics, government, healthcare, etc.

It actually seems like a logical conclusion, if sufficient preventative coding isn't done.

But seeing as how right now the coders (at least via google) are a bunch of woke fucktards seemingly primarily concerned that AI push their narrative, I don't have much faith.

 

[Ballsaque]

Singularity is is a hypothetical future point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable consequences for human civilization. According to the most popular version of the singularity hypothesis

"The first person to use the concept of a "singularity" in the technological context was the 20th-century Hungarian-American mathematician John von Neumann.[5] Stanislaw Ulam reports in 1958 an earlier discussion with von Neumann "centered on the accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life, which gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue".[6] Subsequent authors have echoed this viewpoint.[3][7]" (Wikipedia)

We're in it now aren't we?

It feels like every tech field I can understand is facing huge advancements. It feels like it's uncontrollable and irreversible.

Not yet but it do be comin.. 2-3 years.

 

[aunshi189]

I get what you're saying but I think that's a disengenuous expansion of what the singularity defines. I think you're moving the goal posts to a point it's not useful.

Fire for example has foreseeable consequences and is a natural phenomenon.

I think it's a lot easier to view our own progress as being a potential endpoint compared to that of the past.
While fire is a natural phenomena it led to so much of what is now taken for granted in the vast majority of human settlement around the world: from cooking to internal combustion engines, most electricity generation to the making of pottery.
Humanity was never in control of that technological expansion, could never have just stopped. But we adapated to it.

I think it's more likely than not we'll do the same with our current technological advancements. Even accelerated as they are I don't think we're at that different a point from the Pandora's box that was fire or electricity.

 

[Phlog]

Man, that's really impressive.

I'm a big boy!

 

[lsa]

There's no singularity in my kitchen. So no. It's not.

have you checked under the sink?
Its always under the sink

 

[Wetarmpits]

have you checked under the sink?
Its always under the sink

If singularity is somewhere I wouldn't be suprised if it were there.

 

[Phlog]

I think it's a lot easier to view our own progress as being a potential endpoint compared to that of the past.
While fire is a natural phenomena it led to so much of what is now taken for granted in the vast majority of human settlement around the world: from cooking to internal combustion engines, most electricity generation to the making of pottery.
Humanity was never in control of that technological expansion, could never have just stopped. But we adapated to it.

I think it's more likely than not we'll do the same with our current technological advancements. Even accelerated as they are I don't think we're at that different a point from the Pandora's box that was fire or electricity.

So the distinction I think is in the definition:

"uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable consequences for human civilization."

So fire for example, when that was first discovered it was controllable, we could keep, it in a location. It was reversible, because we could put water on it or stamp it out. Some of its consequences could be foreseen.

Nuclear power and weapons were controlled, were reversed in instances and the consequence of MAD, was imagined as an extension of the pyric victory.

But like I said I appreciate your point of view.

 

[Otto!]

I just want to see the world's end in my lifetime tbh.

If we can get decent sex robots first that would be great.

 

[Vayn Sword]

I have a hard time seeing what the irreversible consequnces could be.

Maybe some kind of combination of social media and video game that uses AI assets to become indistinguishable from reality, trapping users inside into a perpetual state of drudging drones. Hmm, maybe that was the plot of Matrix though...

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Not even close. What they call AI right now is nothing more than a really good predictive text algorithm to which they have added voice synthesis.

 

[William Huggins]

South Korea has a birth rate of 2 per 100 people. So yeah, that's coming.

I think we need to fix this buddy......... Prepare the catapult!!!

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Its been here since internet and smart phones.

 

[William Huggins]

Its been here since internet and smart phones.

Social media, it's not the tech that's the problem it's the software, it's like us, it's not the hardware that's the issue it's our software....

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Social media, it's not the tech that's the problem it's the software, it's like us, it's not the hardware that's the issue it's our software....

without internet there wouldnt be social media. think of how slow tech would be without worldwide communication.

 

[William Huggins]

without internet there wouldnt be social media. think of how slow tech would be without worldwide communication.

It's the application of said hardware is what I'm trying to say.......

 

[KnightTemplar]

Well, I'm not a functionally immortal Cyborg with Superhuman mental and physical abilities. So if the Singularity is here, it fucking sucks.

 

[Phlog]

Tyler Perry halts $800m studio expansion after being shocked by AI​

Tyler Perry halts $800m studio expansion after being shocked by AI

US film and TV mogul says he has paused his plans, having seen demonstrations of OpenAI video generator

www.theguardian.com

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I think this is a good example of irreversible changes @Vayn Sword, also uncontrolled. We're all just reacting to this shit and it's only going to get worse. This dude is saying it's almost an industry killing application of the tech and has already put people out of work. They're not getting new jobs magically appearing out of the air either.

Well, I'm not a functionally immortal Cyborg with Superhuman mental and physical abilities. So if the Singularity is here, it fucking sucks.

So you make a good point, but that's why I think it's only the beginning.

 

[Wetarmpits]

So how's the situation? I looked under my sink and it's not there. But is it somewehere else already?

@lsa you found one in the meantime?

 

[Osculater]

Once we start banging AI sex robots than it is game over mang!