The Patterson Footage .....

[BearGrounds]

thanks for the reading @BearGrounds but i don't see it. :/

 

[cabear]

apparently not but when i'll give it another go! I mean, shit why not a big foot? this world ain't that magical and i wanna believe!

(i'd believe there was a bigfoot rather then admit to myself i walk like a fat guy in a gorilla suit captured on 16mm...)

 

[BearGrounds]

apparently not but when i'll give it another go! I mean, shit why not a big foot? this world ain't that magical and i wanna believe!

(i'd believe there was a bigfoot rather then admit to myself i walk like a fat guy in a gorilla suit captured on 16mm...)

Lol. Here's a version that's been stabilized and zoomed.



Guy in a suit or not the biomechanics are impressive. Try walking like that sometime, knees slightly bent taking long strides, forceful toe offs etc..

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

I like when people with zero background in anthropoid mechanics are like "looks normal to me, bro."

 

[Guestx]

"If you're interested, look into it..."

Holy dodge!

Is that not a reasonable suggestion?

 

[Guestx]

I'm fairly certain this was a clever hoax similar to "The Surgeon's Photographs" of Nessie.

Regardless, you keep saying so many people in costuming can't produce this quality of a suit... can you please source this? I'm not talking a single source, I'm talking every single studio and their costume / effects department saying they couldn't possibly create this suit. I'm just not convinced that any reputable Hollywood studio would admit that they were incapable of producing this kind of suit in writing or on camera. Please source, and please vet your sources so it's not just a bunch of bullshit.

You don't need every FX operation to make this claim, you just need the best of them.

 

[BoogerDawson]

I find the entire phenomenon fascinating. It's frustrating that there's no hard physical evidence. The consistency of eyewitness reports lends credibility that there could exist such a creature. It's been a while since I've read up on it, but it's been pointed out that the arm/leg ratio of whatever is in the film does not match any human.

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

I found another image from the Patterson footage:

 

[ralphc1]

It was Bob Heironimus. Everybody in the nearby towns recognized his walk but they went along with it because it brought lots of tourists and money. Bob came forward and admitted it because they never paid him.
You can fool some of the people all of the time and that's sufficient.

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

I find the entire phenomenon fascinating. It's frustrating that there's no hard physical evidence. The consistency of eyewitness reports lends credibility that there could exist such a creature. It's been a while since I've read up on it, but it's been pointed out that the arm/leg ratio of whatever is in the film does not match any human.

Yeh it's not proportional to a human at all. Also, measurements have been taken out at Bluff Creek and the thing is estimated to be something like 6.5'-7.5' tall. I don't remember exactly, it's been years since I've seen that documentary, but anyway it's tall as fuck.

 

[Strychnine]

Swamp gas.

 

[Guestx]

Well it's certainly interesting to hear both sides.
But every argument has two sides - there are still people who would adamantly argue with you that the earth is flat. They'll give you sources to suggest what they are saying is correct and on it goes.

As I said, I love conspiracy theories, but not just for the sake of having them.
Some things just happen and there is no conspiracy.

I'm a firm believer in the whole UFO thing for example.
I'm sure extra terrestrials have made contact and governments are fully aware of this. Bodies, crashed craft, various sightings - I think much of this is true.

But I'm not buying that video of Bigfoot, especially after looking into the character and background of the people who happened to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time to capture it on film.

If Bigfoot really does exist, and someone one day really does capture it on video, wouldn't they necessarily have to be "exactly in the right place at the right time?"

It would be the same for UFOs, I'd imagine.

 

[CargoKing]

None of the scientists reached the conclusion "this slow fat thing couldn't hide from a fucking hippo" after studying his gait?

1 body. All the world needs to gladly believe in Bigfoot. But still nothing. Hmmmm...

 

[Guestx]

Thanks, so far everybody just keeps flapping their gums with nothing to show. But, according to what you posted, nobody said they couldn't do it. This says that a head of the Documentary Film Department and UNNAMED technicians in the special effects department. This is kind of what I figured because nobody would go out on a limb and say they couldn't do something that had likely been achieved by amateurs. The 2nd part this is a guy who doesn't work in special effects so his comments are moot.

So again, to all the people in the thread who keep parroting this stuff, so far nobody has provided a shred of evidence stating that "nobody in hollywood could create this suit." This is why I wanted to see what people actually said and it's nothing like what people in this thread are claiming. Funny how people who take this video to be 100% legit evidence of Bigfoot are also the ones who believe "unnamed technicians" means that Hollywood said they couldn't reproduce this suit.

Here's an interesting question. . .

Let's say it can be done. Let's say it can be accomplished by the very best FX teams with Hollywood-level money.

In what way does this speak to the possibility of a couple of cowboys pulling it off? Where did they get the skills and cash to do it?

Right now, we have near-photo-realistic CGI apes in the Planet of the Apes series. But how many cowboys from West Texas (or wherever) do you think could recreate those results?

 

[faustian]

I'm generally a skeptic but one thing I've read that's pretty interesting is the dimensions of the body (shoulder width, torso length, arm length); even if it was a human wearing a suit they wouldn't be able to create those dimensions

 

[DoomPatrol]

Meldrum is a working anthropologist and Munn is a well respected Hollywood costume designer and special effects artist. If you want to ignore the available evidence feel free but you really should try some decaf, you have too much invested when you think everyone else is an idiot because they disagree with you.

That doesn't mean they are incapable of being incorrect. The majority of their respective fields both disagree with them. It's also pretty evident that Jeff is profiting from his wildly speculative opinions. And keep on ignoring 99% of the content of my post.

I'm sorry, but bigfoot is as ridiculous as a chupicabre or a fairy or a mermaid or Loch Ness

 

[DoomPatrol]

Here's an interesting question. . .

Let's say it can be done. Let's say it can be accomplished by the very best FX teams with Hollywood-level money.

In what way does this speak to the possibility of a couple of cowboys pulling it off? Where did they get the skills and cash to do it?

Right now, we have near-photo-realistic CGI apes in the Planet of the Apes series. But how many cowboys from West Texas (or wherever) do you think could recreate those results?

I'm telling you that two meth heads trying to scam people for money are capable of creating that suit and doing that stupid walk. You don't need some Hollywood team. You need one person with a sewing machine and time.

And when people say that gait is impossible, that is the most sensationalist shit I've ever heard. That is completely replicatable.

 

[Guestx]

I'm telling you that two meth heads trying to scam people for money are capable of creating that suit and doing that stupid walk. You don't need some Hollywood team. You need one person with a sewing machine and time.

And when people say that gait is impossible, that is the most sensationalist shit I've ever heard. That is completely replicatable.

What then of the quotes from Hollywood pros who say that, if it CAN be done, it would be very difficult? And expensive?

I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and ask if you run an FX house, but if I remember right you're an engineer or something along those lines.

 

[DoomPatrol]

It was Bob Heironimus. Everybody in the nearby towns recognized his walk but they went along with it because it brought lots of tourists and money. Bob came forward and admitted it because they never paid him.
You can fool some of the people all of the time and that's sufficient.

Every idiot in this thread will promptly ignore this video or pretend like the lie detector is a fake so they can continue to believe in their wild delusions.

 

[Guestx]

Also, what would someone who is the head of the Documentary department have to do with special effects? Documentaries are 100% without special effects.

Wut?

Special effects are used in docs all the time for reenactments/recreations, and for providing visual flair for various types of material.