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[UberHere]

You are dead to me.

 

[Sinister]

LOL you need an examination

Resorting to ad-hominem.

Concession accepted.

Please learn what you're talking about. North Korea is NOT "leftist" regardless of how bad you wish it was.

 

[Sinister]

An argument could be made...

Establishing rigid hierarchies is just human nature. The rest of your statement is pretty much why absolute socialism never works, and results in mass murder more often than not.

- Not really. An argument cannot be made that these systems have failed across the board, unless your requirement for success is that they're impervious to corruption. They're not, bo system is. But hierarchical systems are MUCH more difficult to correct.

- No, establishing rigid heirarchies is not human nature. That's another myth perpetuated by classes of people who never want you to challenge them. Humans are communal. We survived by forming communities, and most of them didnt always have rigid caste systems based on superstitious nonsense.

Capitalism has never failed to commit mass murder. The US has been mass murdering since our inception. We are about to mass murder Venezuelans over f*ckin Christmas.

 

[Limbo Pete]

how the hell you guys manage to derail the awards thread with this shit about socialism

 

[Sinister]

Wow not even the WR Award thread can go with out huge derails.
I am disappointed on behalf of @LMP

Sorry, but I ain't just gonna have people making up sh*t I said while tagging me, then making ignorant arguments as follow-ups.

Besides, I want to earn that Worst Mod award properly.

 

[UberHere]

Sorry, but I ain't just gonna have people making up sh*t I said while tagging me, then making ignorant arguments as follow-ups.

Besides, I want to earn that Worst Mod award properly.

Not a chance

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

An argument could be made...

Establishing rigid hierarchies is just human nature. The rest of your statement is pretty much why absolute socialism never works, and results in mass murder more often than not.

No it's not human nature lol the vast majority of human existence we did not have them. It's a relatively recent invention
If you live in the United States or Europe, you'll probably argue what you consider a hierarchy but in theory you don't live in one. Unless you are the president who can't violate a law. Thanks recent scotus!

 

[lsa]

Sorry, but I ain't just gonna have people making up sh*t I said while tagging me, then making ignorant arguments as follow-ups.

Besides, I want to earn that Worst Mod award properly.

well thats what the lounge are for. ;-)
Just because of this I will vote for you as best mod.
That will teach you.

 

[Hog-train]

3. Worst Right Wing Poster - @kflo - Thinks it's ok for Israel to kill children and Netanyahu did nothing wrong.

4. Worst Left Wing Poster - @kflo - Thinks cutting kid's dicks off is humane and necessary.

4. Best Troll AKA Retard - @kflo - All of the above.

Best Left Wing Poster - @Islam Imamate - I agree with the other poster that he stays intellectually honest and argues in good faith. Uses coherent arguments and doesn't resort to name calling and trolling.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Sorry, but I ain't just gonna have people making up sh*t I said while tagging me, then making ignorant arguments as follow-ups.

Besides, I want to earn that Worst Mod award properly.

Dont you understand. Humanity has only existed 5000 years and it's all hierarchical.
(I'm joking. I'm a conservative and agree with you. Other conservatives tend to cherry pick human history)

 

[Mr Holmes]

What policies or aspects of their govt can really be considered left wing though?

Their govt is controlled by an militaristic, isolationist, ultra-nationalistic, totalitarian regime, with a rigid cast system.

I suppose they do officially have a state funded health care, which can be considered left wing, but in reality even that has collapsed and their citizens pay for medical care out of pocket.

Its economic model is communism and its roots are in Marxism.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Its economic model is communism and its roots are in Marxism.

It's not. In order to have marxism/communism you must have free speech. Shoving feathers up your ass doesn't make you a chicken, drc was not a Democracy.

 

[Mr Holmes]

It's not. In order to have marxism/communism you must have free speech. Shoving feathers up your ass doesn't make you a chicken, drc was not a Democracy.

Lol, no. Marxism is an economic theory and detached from civil liberties. Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Lol, no. Marxism is an economic theory and detached from civil liberties. Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Marx himself. I would just wander off if I was you.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Yeah and that has to do with what? Their basis was Marxist-Leninist. Their economy is centrally managed — leftist.

Leftism IS authoritarian.

juche is about as far from communism as you can get. There is no proletariat class in North Korea. There is no collective leadership. Marxist and Leninist theory are both internationally minded by nature, North Korea is one of the most isolated countries on the planet. Songun elevate the military above the working class rather than seeing it as a tool for the working class. Marxism and Leninism are both staunchly anti-religion where as North Korea literally deifies its leaders.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Judo Throw was actually pretty honest too. Like, he had horrible views, but he was actually open about them. Most people with his views here pretend they're actually enlightened centrists, but probably have a confederate flag hanging on the wall of whatever hovel they're posting from. I appreciated his honesty, at least.

Yeah dude was actually open that he was pretty much a sociopath. Regardless of what you thought of his views, I wish we had the level of honesty everywhere.

 

[HereticBD]

- No, establishing rigid heirarchies is not human nature.

Yes it is. It's why it's been done throughout our entire existence, no matter the form of government.

Humans are communal.

And those communities always had a hierarchy. Some more hardcore than others, but there is always power/leadership structure.

We survived by forming communities, and most of them didnt always have rigid caste systems based on superstitious nonsense.

Which ones? I bet the ones that didn't, were conquered by the ones that did, since are also many pluses to being structured and organized.

Look, your preferred way of life sounds great on paper, which is why it's very enticing to impressionable young people. Unfortunately, we're humans and not robots, so it will never ever work. Socialism as a concept sounds really great if I'm being totally honest, where we all want for nothing and live in peace and harmony. Human nature gets in the way every single time. Human nature must be right wing.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Yes it is. It's why it's been done throughout our entire existence, no matter the form of government.

And those communities always had a hierarchy. Some more hardcore than others, but there is always power/leadership structure.

Which ones? I bet the ones that didn't, were conquered by the ones that did, since are also many pluses to being structured and organized.

Look, your preferred way of life sounds great on paper, which is why it's very enticing to impressionable young people. Unfortunately, we're humans and not robots, so it will never ever work. Socialism as a concept sounds really great if I'm being totally honest, where we all want for nothing and live in peace and harmony. Human nature gets in the way every single time. Human nature must be right wing.

... I was joking about mankind being 5000 years old and the United states besides the president everyone can be charged with the same crimes and has the same rights.
Okay define hierarchy how you want to win the argument now.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Marx himself. I would just wander off if I was you.

Marx supporting freedom of speech doesn't all of a sudden make it a requirement of his economic theory. Most communist regimes have restricted free speech.

I knew would reach the "true communism has never been tried" clowns at some point.

 

[UberHere]

Marx supporting freedom of speech doesn't all of a sudden make it a requirement of his economic theory. Most communist regimes have restricted free speech.

I knew would reach the "true communism has never been tried" clowns at some point.

It hasn’t outside the Book of Acts. And it didn’t last long there either