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[UberHere]

If something on the left is bad then its actually on the right. It couldn't be any more simple, Rob.

Reasonable people are far right now.

I’m against the war on drugs and I’m against imprisoning nonviolent criminals. I think prison sentences should be reserved for sexual assaults and violent crimes. Everything else can be handled in other ways.

But everyone assumes I’m a righty cause I loathe the current model of progressivism. Progressives love locking people up and using the government against their perceived political enemies. To be fair though, so does Trump

 

[Siver!]

Reasonable people are far right now.

I’m against the war on drugs and I’m against imprisoning nonviolent criminals. I think prison sentences should be reserved for sexual assaults and violent crimes. Everything else can be handled in other ways.

But everyone assumes I’m a righty cause I loathe the current model of progressivism. Progressives love locking people up and using the government against their perceived political enemies. To be fair though, so does Trump

So is that to say you want free rein on fraud and shit like that that actively ruins lives because the victims aren't immediately physically injured?

Sounds.... not good.

 

[UberHere]

So is that to say you want free rein on fraud and shit like that that actively ruins lives because the victims aren't immediately physically injured?

Sounds.... not good.

No but do they need to be isolated from society in a place full of violent convicts?They can make restitution with interest and work it off through whatever jobs the community needs done. Not to mention their professional reputation will be in the toilet. A repeat offender may need to spend some time locked up, but what good does that do to the community when an able bodied person is fed and housed when they could be working off their debt and sleeping in their own bed with their own families. They’d still have no life having to support themselves while paying off their debts with interest.

I maintain the position that being locked in prison for years should be reserved for people who can’t safely remain in society. To me, being locked up with violent convicts for years is an unnecessarily cruel punishment for those fit to live in civilized society. Nothing will ever change my mind on that. USA already has the largest percentage of its population incarcerated. For a first world country, that’s not acceptable.

My model would be more like being indebted to the mob which sucks but at least you have some freedom and don’t have to watch your back all the time. To me that’s a lot more humane and just.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Also this is less accurate than far left. They are literally rooted in far left socialism.

authoritarianism. They are rooted in authoritarianism.

 

[Rob Battisti]

authoritarianism. They are rooted in authoritarianism.

Yeah and that has to do with what? Their basis was Marxist-Leninist. Their economy is centrally managed — leftist.

Leftism IS authoritarian.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

authoritarianism. They are rooted in authoritarianism.

Exactly.

The most basic definition of socialism is "workers control of the means of production" but North Korea doesn't even pretend to have that. The USSR and China didn't either but at least they paid lip service to it and had low-level councils and other things.

North Korea is an extreme totalitarian state that just throws "people's" in their titles somewhere. On top of that, they're isolationist, when socialist movements and parties have been internationalist (workers of the world, unite, and all that) since the very beginning. They're nowhere close to being left.

But rightists will love to call it left so that they can defame it.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Yeah and that has to do with what? Their basis was Marxist-Leninist. Their economy is centrally managed — leftist.

Leftism IS authoritarian.

The Grokucation is failing you, dude

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Leftism IS authoritarian.

Red square is, left square isn't

 

[Mr Holmes]

Declaring a communist state like NK to be on the right is kind of like the guys that tried to argue the Nazi's were actually on the left.

I think some of you all are trolling.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Red square is, left square isn't

Yes and North Korea is in the upper left corner

 

[MeatheadMike]

Declaring a communist state like NK to be on the right is kind of like the guys that tried to argue the Nazi's were actually on the left.

I think some of you all are trolling.

What policies or aspects of their govt can really be considered left wing though?

Their govt is controlled by an militaristic, isolationist, ultra-nationalistic, totalitarian regime, with a rigid cast system.

I suppose they do officially have a state funded health care, which can be considered left wing, but in reality even that has collapsed and their citizens pay for medical care out of pocket.

 

[Sinister]

See what I mean? Now socialism/communism isn’t “left”.

so now divinity of inheritance is “right”?

More like it’s just crazy.

Just because you dont understand that economic systems and political ideologies are different things doesnt mean you're in the Twilight Zone or something. You very well could just actually learn these terms, youd only be unwilling to if you think it compromises a narrative you subscribe to.

Socialism is not "left." You cited a specific example of a Governmebt that uses it that is a right wing Government.

Capitalism is not "right"...social democracies utilize markets even under left wing Governance. Though capitalism has an inherent trait that is antithetical to egalitarianism.

Communism is not "left." Do you think monks are leftists? How about Nuns?

Economic systems are not political ideologies. They intertwine in their effects on society, but stating then as if they're synonymous is just propagandizing. Most people who HATE Communism or Socialism are reciting notions put into society by wealthy people who are disgusted by mandatory sharing to maintain the society they think of as their personal playground. Everyone else who applauds this are their apologists:

Yes and North Korea is in the upper left corner

No, its not. Its in the upper right.

 

[Sinister]

What policies or aspects of their govt can really be considered left wing though?

Their govt is controlled by an militaristic, isolationist, ultra-nationalistic, totalitarian regime, with a rigid cast system.

I suppose they do officially have a state funded health care, which can be considered left wing, but in reality even that has collapsed and their citizens pay for medical care out of pocket.

They literally cannot articulate what they think is "left wing" about North Korea except that they've been programmed to believe that left/right politics is strictly about economic systems. The capitalist class in Western societies have spent decades putting forth the idea that anyone who ever votes for them to have less money and not be able to "win" (more like steal) the economy, with the rest of us delighted to beg for their taboo scraps, is evil leftist/Marxist/Communist/Socialism, as if all those terms mean the same thing.

All this is intended to do is demonize the idea of doing literally anything else. I win, you lose, and if you starve its because you lost. Or you can work for me, fully agreeing to my terms, and still only kind of starve. But with the hope that someday I might be nice to you and let you have a promotion.

No society that believes a spoiled wealthy sociopathic brat can inherit leadership by right, and that this brat is a living divine embodiment, is "leftist" by any stretch of the imagination. Next thing we know these goofballs are gonna tell us that Serfdoms under monarchs were also "leftist" because the monarch had to protect their subjects and give them back some of the food they themselves produced. Lol

 

[Sinister]

As an idea, it's left wing. After it's put into practice and fails miserably, it becomes right wing.

The presence of public services and funding doesnt fail miserably in practice. If that was true then fire departments, police, municipal Governments, libraries, schools, literally everything generated from public funding would also fail spectacularly. Also the failure doesbt make it right wing. The suggestions that what is needed for society altogether is rigid heirarchies is what establishes rightism. One doesnt become the other. Wannabe demagogues always look for weaknesses in societies with which to procure power, and then dismantle any means to take that power from them. Like how Dershowitz is currently convincing Trump that he MAY legally be allowed a 3rd term despite the 22nd Amendment being very clear that it's illegal. Like the idea that electors can be replaced if a candidate doesn't like electiob results.

Religion is VERY vulnerable to this. Because anywhere there is a caste system there will always be d*ckheads looking to usurp power, mostly to get wealthy and laid. Here is an informative video on how hierarchical thinking leads to stupidity:

 

[lsa]

Wow not even the WR Award thread can go with out huge derails.
I am disappointed on behalf of @LMP

 

[UberHere]

1. Best Right Wing Poster

@Rob Battisti

2. Best Left Wing Poster

@Sinister

3. Worst Right Wing Poster

No comment

4. Worst Left Wing Poster

No comment

5. Best Mod

@Madmick

6. Best Ban

@payton

7. Most Likely to Get Banned

@Crazy Source

8. Starman Memorial Award

@WklySportsMemes

 

[Crazy Source]

1. Best Right Wing Poster

@Rob Battisti

2. Best Left Wing Poster

@Sinister

3. Worst Right Wing Poster

No comment

4. Worst Left Wing Poster

No comment

5. Best Mod

@Madmick

6. Best Ban

@payton

7. Most Likely to Get Banned

@Crazy Source

8. Starman Memorial Award

@WklySportsMemes

You are dead to me.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Hack savage is easily seano
I live in the Caribbean, next to certain places
This guy has spent years discussing these things
He has no idea what the fuck he's saying and it's hilarious. My favorite is when he melts down into passive aggressive question series arguments when he's caught.
I thought he was just trolling at first, looked at his history, nah he just makes shit up for years

 

[Rob Battisti]

Just because you dont understand that economic systems and political ideologies are different things doesnt mean you're in the Twilight Zone or something. You very well could just actually learn these terms, youd only be unwilling to if you think it compromises a narrative you subscribe to.

Socialism is not "left." You cited a specific example of a Governmebt that uses it that is a right wing Government.

Capitalism is not "right"...social democracies utilize markets even under left wing Governance. Though capitalism has an inherent trait that is antithetical to egalitarianism.

Communism is not "left." Do you think monks are leftists? How about Nuns?

Economic systems are not political ideologies. They intertwine in their effects on society, but stating then as if they're synonymous is just propagandizing. Most people who HATE Communism or Socialism are reciting notions put into society by wealthy people who are disgusted by mandatory sharing to maintain the society they think of as their personal playground. Everyone else who applauds this are their apologists:





No, its not. Its in the upper right.

LOL you need an examination

 

[HereticBD]

The presence of public services and funding doesnt fail miserably in practice. If that was true then fire departments, police, municipal Governments, libraries, schools, literally everything generated from public funding would also fail spectacularly.

An argument could be made...

Also the failure doesbt make it right wing. The suggestions that what is needed for society altogether is rigid heirarchies is what establishes rightism. One doesnt become the other. Wannabe demagogues always look for weaknesses in societies with which to procure power, and then dismantle any means to take that power from them.

Establishing rigid hierarchies is just human nature. The rest of your statement is pretty much why absolute socialism never works, and results in mass murder more often than not.