The new king? Which win was more impressive Jon over Gane or GSP over Bisping?

Gane was an easier style match up because it seems he implodes in grappling situation.

But Gane is a way better fighter than Bisping ever was.
 
GSP and it isn’t close. He actually beat a champ to become champ…
 
there should be rules like asking a question like this before u can become a member of sherdog
obviously gane is harder.thats 240 plus pounds of danger in his prime
 
sylvalant said:
Bisping was a paper champ who almost lost to out of prime silva right before becoming champ. He wasn't even top 2 at the time, while Gane was undisputably top 2 after winning the stand up against the scariest knock out artist in the history of HW, Francis Ngannou.
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Bisping was complete opposite of a paper champ. He was the literal lineal champ having beaten the consensus #1 middleweight on the planet for his belt which he did in under a round by KO.

Jones fought Gane, a guy who actually lost to the lineal champ, for a vacant belt tonight. He fought a green fighter for a vacant belt. Gane can't grapple to save his life, he was outgrappled by Francis who also can't grapple, showing just how terrible he truly is in that area of his game.

Everything else is nonsense. Doesn't matter who you think would or wouldn't have beaten Bisping at the time, that's nothing more than your opinion which, respectfully, means fuck all. What you think may or should or would have happened is completely irrelevant as you've already shown more than enough to suggest you don't have a clue what you are watching nor talking about.
 
People really saying out of prime Bisping who had multiple losses and 1 working eye in a sport that needs depth perception is a better fighter than one of the two best strikers in the HW divison? Yes, even though Gane's grappling sucked his striking was on par with the scariest KO artist in the history of the heavy division.
 
Fact Checker said:
Who hasn’t outgrappled Roger Gracie in MMA LOL?

You’re lying to yourself and everyone else with this revisionist history… Bispings career was a joke until he went 1-1 with Rockhold. Then he barely decisioned a 50 year old Dan, lost to GSP, and got easily retired by WW Gastelum via KO.


His title run is still remembered as one of the most cowardly runs ever. Singlehandedly killed a deep MW division.
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Imagine if necrotic Hendo managed to ko him.

That would have been the funniest and weirdest moment in ufc history
 
BEATDOWNS said:
is the lottery ticket getting the fight or winning the fight? I'd agree on the getting the fight part but not winning the fight. He won because he was better on the night.
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I think he won because Rockholds chin was shattered by TRT Vitor. His chin was never the same after that fight.
 
Ganes is young and more dangerous on paper.

Bisping was old with one eye and a handful of other middleweights would have likely beat him in my opinion. Bisping is obviously more well-rounded
 
MawrSeneca said:
He beat a Rockhold who didn't take him seriously and had a controversial decision over Anderson who was getting back from a devastating leg break in his home country. Bisping was a horrible MW champ and the easiest comeback fight for GSP. We all know Whittaker or Yoel would have been night and day compared to Ping. People comparing overcompensating Bisping as a worthy win compared to Gane is just sad man. <45>Had GSP unified with Whittaker and finished him then this would be worthy of debate.
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Lol no he was just a good fighter and found an opening against Rockhold. The Andy fight wasn’t controversial at all, Bisping won every round and dropped Andy twice.

Who is Gane? Who has he even beat lol, he’s never even been a world champ which is sad considering he fights in the weakest division. Bisping was a champ and beat some of the absolute best. Gane has zero ground game, Bisping did. Beating Bisping is the far better win than some unknown Gane who hardly has 10 fights.
 
Fact Checker said:
Who hasn’t outgrappled Roger Gracie in MMA LOL?

You’re lying to yourself and everyone else with this revisionist history… Bispings career was a joke until he went 1-1 with Rockhold. Then he barely decisioned a 50 year old Dan, lost to GSP, and got easily retired by WW Gastelum via KO.


His title run is still remembered as one of the most cowardly runs ever. Singlehandedly killed a deep MW division.
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Kennedy is the only one whos outgrappled Roger in MMA. You didnt even watch his fights. Mo KOd him standing. That was his only other loss. He tapped everyone else he fought besides Jardine who he dominated.

Bisping fought Kelvin 2 weeks after getting dropped and choked unconscious. Gane wasnt even good enough to become champ in a much worse division.
 
OldBoy91 said:
Bisping was complete opposite of a paper champ. He was the literal lineal champ having beaten the consensus #1 middleweight on the planet for his belt which he did in under a round by KO.
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Him getting that title shot in the first place was a fluke.
 
Bisping was a tougher style matchup and more well rounded but Gane has two functioning eyes tough call to be honest
 
OldBoy91 said:
Bisping was complete opposite of a paper champ. He was the literal lineal champ having beaten the consensus #1 middleweight on the planet for his belt which he did in under a round by KO.
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Lineal champ is still the paper champ by virtue of his actual ranking and inability to defend his championship.


Jones fought Gane, a guy who actually lost to the lineal champ, for a vacant belt tonight. He fought a green fighter for a vacant belt. Gane can't grapple to save his life, he was outgrappled by Francis who also can't grapple, showing just how terrible he truly is in that area of his game.
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A guy who lost to the actual champ and the scariest KO artist in MMA history, while Bisping had losses to people who weren't top 5.

Everything else is nonsense. Doesn't matter who you think would or wouldn't have beaten Bisping at the time, that's nothing more than your opinion which, respectfully, means fuck all. What you think may or should or would have happened is completely irrelevant as you've already shown more than enough to suggest you don't have a clue what you are watching nor talking about.
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Just like your opinion is nonsense.
 
This is just sad. Bisping needed a fucking seeing eye dog by the time that fight happened. He was a warrior and made it a dog fight, but let's not go full retard here. He was 1 fight removed from retirement (a fight where he was brutally stopped and probably shouldn't have happened) and it was a miracle he was even able to get sanctioned at that point.
 
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