The modern day U FIGHT CHEAP fen simply doesnt understand how insane K-1 was

Blanqa Blanqua said:
Fuckin A right.

It fits in with the new WWE era of UFC. Plus, new fans would watch for Poatan, old fans would come back for Tito, and as you say, build up would be incredible. They could even buy the footage of Tito KOing Chuck for promo and justification haha. If only Dana saw our vision!
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It also provides a very tricky scenario if Tito won
 
jeskola said:
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moron posts gifs of washed up athletes being out performed by athletes in their prime
 
K1 was just great , there is nothing better than 90/00 K1 and I am not only talking about HW ,
all those LW's K1 MAX were great too.
and as mentioned before a former LW Arthur Kyshenko who never won the K1 MAX ( but was a beast at his time ) beat Alex Perreira in kickboxing.
at the other side Izzy ( who is considered as the best by mma community ) lost to Filip Verlinden in the past.
aynyway , I see myself lucky to see that ERA
 
Alex and Izzy were able to move away from the Dutch shell so they were able to make the transition into MMA. Both men are too small for K1 super heavyweight. They can't overcome that size difference with skill. K1 tournament requires the ability to take a lot of punishment and a bit of luck or favoritism by the promoter. The best guys don't win all the time.

Maybe Alex can be somewhat competitive in the 100kg division. I don't think Izzy does well in K1 tournament format. Technically Izzy is somewhat better than someone like Kyotaro who was a 100 kg champ but he isn't going to overcome Japanese judging/reffing/match-making. Izzy and Alex are competitive with those guys Badr Hari beat for the sub 100 kg belt. That division was a bit thin.
 
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TS was sure in love with the 2000s, talk about living in the past.

Poatan is a special kickboxer...K1 heavyweight GP is usually misunderstood by people outside the KB community. Just because it was more of a spectacle doesn't mean they were better or it was the best test of who was the best. The tournament format is exciting, but people try to use it to prop up guys by looking at their record, when obviously tournaments lead to upsets and have a lot of luck involved.

It doesn't make that much sense to compare the Glory prize fighting era to the K1 GP era.

Poatan is a better striker than most of the guys listed because those guys sucked at MMA. Kickboxing isn't MMA. It's irrelevant who they can out strike in a different rule set, just like it's irrelevant in wondering who would win in table tennis. The fact that Poatan was an elite KB is just a feather in his cap.
 
Ludwig von Mises said:


These kids today think Poatan is something special. I hespect of heem but he wouldn't make it out of that first round in the video above. No dishespect to Poatan, he's awesome as a person and as a fighter but when it comes to world class kickboxing there are levels to this sheet brathers.

These guys like Poatan and Izzy would have been fucked in that era because they were too big for K1 Max and they would have to to bulk up instead of cutting weight and they would have to fight guys like young Badr Hari, Tyron Spong, Gokahn Saki and Manhoef just to have fair size match ups and these fights would be very ugly for Alex and Izzy. Forget about fighting the true elite HWs. Those guys would hurt them bad.

Alex and Izzy had a great kickboxing career in a very weak era of kickboxing. This isn't their fault but their kickboxing titles ain't the same as winning titles in the golden era K-1. Not only is not the same but its not even close.

The reality is Alex lost to K1 MAX (LW) Artyr Kyshenko and Glory MW Artem Levin. These guys are great fighters in their own right but theyre way too small and wouldnt qualify for a K-1 HWGP in those days and yes, struggling against them is a strong indicator you're going to get melted in the peak era of K-1.

The other day I read on here that Poatan is a better striker than prime Mirko Cro Cop lol. Why? because he knocked out Jamal Hill, Kalil Rountree and Jiri? What do you think would happen to them if they fought a peak Mirko, Hoost, Hunt, LeBanner, Ignashov, Remy, Badr etc???

They'd get KTFO the same way. Its no coincidence that Poatans toughest test was another pro kickboxer in Izzy. Hes the only one who could match Poatans skill and actually make reads on him. All the other guys Alex knocked out in the UFC are MMA brawlers who just walked right into his wheelhouse.

Jan is the only one who mixed it up on Alex and grappled and its no coincidence Alex couldn't hurt him nearly as bad as he hurt the others. Listen I like Izzy. I hespect of heem but he wouldn't even be a top 30 kickboxer in the world from 1995-2010.

That's why when you're sitting around glazing these guys you should understand that there was much higher level shit going on before your daddy Den Waitche introduced you to U FIGHT CHEAP.
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The fact that you used the term "glazing" at the end bumps is from a 4/10 to a good 8/10
 
Doctor Grudge said:
TS was sure in love with the 2000s, talk about living in the past.

Poatan is a special kickboxer...K1 heavyweight GP is usually misunderstood by people outside the KB community. Just because it was more of a spectacle doesn't mean they were better or it was the best test of who was the best. The tournament format is exciting, but people try to use it to prop up guys by looking at their record, when obviously tournaments lead to upsets and have a lot of luck involved.

It doesn't make that much sense to compare the Glory prize fighting era to the K1 GP era.

Poatan is a better striker than most of the guys listed because those guys sucked at MMA. Kickboxing isn't MMA. It's irrelevant who they can out strike in a different rule set, just like it's irrelevant in wondering who would win in table tennis. The fact that Poatan was an elite KB is just a feather in his cap.
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I have a feeling that is a very controversial opinion 😅
 
Prime K1 was top-tier striking at the professional level, mainly in the upper weight classes. Golden age Muay Thai (fought primarily in the lower weight classes) still stands as the pinnacle of overall striking imo.

However, I don't agree that Pereira would have been a nothing had he fought there. He's a freaky athlete, he'd transcend.
 
NoSmilez said:
Alex and Izzy were able to move away from the Dutch shell so they were able to make the transition into MMA. Both men are too small for K1 super heavyweight. They can't overcome that size difference with skill. K1 tournament requires the ability to take a lot of punishment and a bit of luck or favoritism by the promoter. The best guys don't win all the time.

Maybe Alex can be somewhat competitive in the 100kg division. I don't think Izzy does well in K1 tournament format. Technically Izzy is somewhat better than someone like Kyotaro who was a 100 kg champ but he isn't going to overcome Japanese judging/reffing/match-making. Izzy and Alex are competitive with those guys Badr Hari beat for the sub 100 kg belt. That division was a bit thin.
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Lol Alex and Izzy would have been annihilated by the "smaller" guys. Izzy wasn't more skilled than a single guy from that era who was ranked in the top 20.

Badr, Spong, Saki and Manhoef would have clobbered Poatan and Izzy at their peaks more times than not.

Alex got worker by K1 MAX Artyr Kyshenko man. Imagine him fighting young Badr lol

This isn't even a serious discussion. Let alone these guys chances vs the bigger all time great kickboxers like Aerts, Hug, LeBanner, Hunt, Schilt, LeBanner, Hoost, Bernardo and Greco.
 
Söze Aldo said:
Prime K1 was top-tier striking at the professional level, mainly in the upper weight classes. Golden age Muay Thai (fought primarily in the lower weight classes) still stands as the pinnacle of overall striking imo.

However, I don't agree that Pereira would have been a nothing had he fought there. He's a freaky athlete, he'd transcend.
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Alex got worked by k1 Max LW Kyshenko and Glory MW Artem Levin but he'd "transcend" against the best HW kickboxers ever?


Doubt.
 
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