The Khamzat Question: WW or MW?

[chiefwiggum]

Both divisions are weak. The top guys Usman colby and burns.
They’re best wins are old men. Woodley Maia rda. wonder boy for burns.

None of these guys have great wins when you view a fighter for their careers.

burns next best is Gunnar in a close fight. And kuchenko and Alex Oliviera.

khamzat eats these guys. And has looked ten fold better than anyone I have ever seen to start there career.

you can say khamzat hasn’t fought the best. Neither have any of the top guys.

it’s like when jones was in the ufc when he started to train for a few months and then deny what you’re seeing.

These guys are special and really easy to see. It doesn’t take a couple dozen fights to see it’s b

 

[PPVpoints]

Khazmat gets crushed at MW and smeshed at WW. His best bet is a LW fight vs Conor for that red panty night smesh job.

 

[Axe720]

WW for now, MW once he hits his 30s and the weight cut gets harder.

 

[koquerelle]

WW where he still hasn't fought anyone elite.

 

[TerrorTimmy]

Khazmat gets crushed at MW and smeshed at WW. His best bet is a LW fight vs Conor for that red panty night smesh job.

It'll be fun tomorrow when I come back to this thread and see "Banned" under your name

When you make your next account, try a little subtlety, yeah?

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Khamzat future double champ

Doesn't matter what order

 

[NEETzschean]

If he beats Usman he can move up and fight Adesanya not long after. That seems like the logical progression as it would be harder on his body to move up, beat guys to get the title shot, beat Izzy, then move back down to 170 to fight Usman. He's very close to Usman right now anyway, provided he beats Burns. And Usman may well be retired soon anyway, at virtually 35 he's 2.5 years older than Izzy. WW first then MW makes most sense.

 

[Sticko]

Ya...

Or he didnt want any of Rockholds grappling or ground game because Rockhold aint no small WW or MW for that matter that khamzats gunna pick him up and carrying infront of Dana while talking...

Just saying

Rockhold doesn't have good enough takedowns to force Khamzat to grapple. Plus he's chinny. Khamzat would knock him out.

 

[Sticko]

Are you referencing the wrestling match with 3 minute rounds in which khamzat had a good first round and then was tired for the other two..

Pure wrestling requires less cardio than MMA

The wrestling match with Hermansson was only 2 rounds total. Khamzat had a big lead after the first round.

Wrestling is the most tiring thing you can do in the context of an MMA match. There is a reason that pure wrestling matches are so short.

 

[PPVpoints]

It'll be fun tomorrow when I come back to this thread and see "Banned" under your name

When you make your next account, try a little subtlety, yeah?

Banned for what? Saying Khazmat is overrated as fuck?

 

[abject]

Which division of the 2 would you like to see him pursue? I believe it’s better he goes to MW, as WW is looking to be moving really slow considering Usman vs Leon wouldn’t happen at the very least until July.

Now another question, which fight is more intriguing for you? Usman vs Chimaev or Izzy vs Chimaev. I’m siding with the latter.

After seeing him ragdoll Hermannsson im on the hype train. He should fight regularly at both divisions. After Burns, fight at mw while waiting for the ww title shot.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

I would just like to see him actually fight at this point, 1 fight in 16 months. we need more fighting to see him and what he has. So much unknown

 

[gunlok]

If they add more weight classes, Khamzat may be champion everywhere between 165 and 195 simultaneously. Wonder if UFC plans to expand weight classes after he wins his first belt.

 

[abject]

I don't think he's made 170 ever. That's what I was getting at. He's bigger than most 185ers, and has looked exactly the same in his WW fights. I would at least expect him to look drained on the scale, but he hasn't. There's a reason why his fights in Sweden and the U.S. have been at MW, which is weird considering the fact that he insists he's a WW. The UFC can do what they want on the scales over in Abu Dhabi, and at his last weigh in, there was a sketchy moment where the scale fluctuated five pounds out of nowhere.

He's free to prove me wrong by fighting at WW in the West somewhere. All this is speculative.

I also don't think Khabib ever made weight for the Gaethje fight.

I agree, Khabib didnt make weight against Gaedthe.

 

[Kwic]

WW, MW, LHW, HW.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Tevfik1907]

No the real khamzat question is i

Is he as good as he as everyone keeps saying he is .. that's the only khamzat question that matters


Right now for me its undecided...


Also never forget .

Khamzat...i smesh everyone.

Rockhold...i got a khamzat contract i signed it right away


Also Khamzat.... I fight 170 bro...

You are not wrong about Rockhold but for Khamzat's style Adesanya is easier to deal with. Rockhold is a good wrestler who even try to wrestle with Blachowicz at Light heavyweight, he is clearly better wrestler than Adesanya and this makes a tougher opponent for Khamzat.

Khamzat still can KO Rockhold but from wrestling point Rockhold is a tougher fight.

Hard to imagine a guy with Khamzat's power not KO Rockhold at this point.

The UFC probably made him stick to one division, and he chose WW because he wants to be double champ and it will get much harder for him to make 170 the older he gets.

I agree he can KO Rockhold however just like Khabib and Islam, Khamzat's takedown threat and wrestling threat sets up his striking thus he finds those shots. Gerald was simply afraid of getting taken down and left his chin open because of that. Rockhold probably won't care or won't be afraid of Khamzat's takedowns since his wrestling is not bad.

This is a two ways thing, its true that Khamzat doesn't want Rockhold due to stylistic match-up and why Rockhold wanted this fight when Khamzat was unranked? Rockhold too knows he won't be taken down easily or if he gets taken down he can handle himself on the ground.

Adesanya on the other hand is no Rockhold in terms of wrestling and ground game.

 

[Tevfik1907]

I also don't think Khabib ever made weight for the Gaethje fight.

I agree, Khabib didnt make weight against Gaedthe.

Prove it.

This thread has nothing to do with Khabib LOL, and Khabib never failed in the first attempt and he didn't hold the towel. In Khamzat's case both things happened. You guys are simply slandering at him without any proof.

Can I say X guy uses PED or steroids without any proof on this forum? How is this any different than slandering like that?

 

[Royce's Gi]

 

[HeDidn'tWantTheFight]

Prove it.

This thread has nothing to do with Khabib LOL, and Khabib never failed in the first attempt and he didn't hold the towel. In Khamzat's case both things happened. You guys are simply slandering at him without any proof.

Can I say X guy uses PED or steroids without any proof on this forum? How is this any different than slandering like that?

I didn't say I have proof of anything. I'm making an inference. I didn't say Khabib didn't make weight. I said that I think he didn't.

Had nothing to do with holding the towel. Had everything to do with the guy quickly resetting scale when the bar was still going up and declaring that Khabib was 155.

 

[Tweak896]

Best would be to get WW titleshot and title asap, then move up to MW permanently and gain weight to stay there. The WW division is moving like molasses right now, so not sure we'll see Usman vs Khamzat this year.